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  1. Music Lover

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    Once upon a time I had these Sabians: 20" Pro Medium Ride, 18" AA El Sabor, 17" AAX X-plosion Crash, and 14" Paragon Hats. I was very happy with those cymbals. However, I ended up giving them to a church that I do not attend (although I used to). I also have them a red Mapex Saturn Pro four-piece kit. They are there now. That church gave me the only two decent cymbals they had: a 17" AA Medium-Thin Crash and a Paiste 505 Medium Ride. For about two days, those were the only cymbals I had.

    Then I went shopping at C&M Music in Lafayette, Louisiana. I bought the following Sabians: 20" HHX Evolution Ride, 18" SR2 Thin, and two SR2 14" cymbals, one medium and one heavy to use as hats. Then about a week later I bought the cymbals from a friend's widow. He had passed away a few months before. All of these cymbals were originally purchased my me and were used: 20" AAX Dry Ride, 18" XS20 Medium-Thin Crash, 16" AA Medium-Thin Crash, 16" AA Thin Crash, and Paiste 13" Alpha Medium hats. So... that left me three rides, two 16", one 17", and two 18" crashes, and two pairs of hats. Soon after that I traded the Paiste 505 Ride and the 16" AA Medium-Thin Crash for some mic stands and cables. Then a friend of mine started a new church, and started going there. My son plays bass, and I play drums there.

    The rest of this story is not as detailed because I was constantly trying to get the right combination for the church drum set and for my drum set. About eighteen months later, I bought an AA 16" Concept Crash. Then a few months later I bought two AAX Concept Crashes, a 16" and a 17". A few months after that I bought two AAX Studio Crashes, and 17" and an 18". Where are they all now?

    At the church I currently attend, In the Beginning Church, in Marksville, Louisiana, are these: 20" HHX Evolution Ride, 18" AAX Studio Crash 17" AAX Concept Crash, 16" AAX Concept Crash, and the Paiste 13" Alpha Medium Hats.

    At Christian Family Worship Center, in Mansura, Louisiana, are the AAX 20"Dry Ride (my second-favorite ride ever) and the 16" AA Concept Crash. I got the AA 21" Bash Ride from there.

    At Lifepoint Church, in Mansura, Louisiana, a church I have never attended, are the AA 17" Medium-Thin Crash and the XS20 18" Medium-Thin Crash. Those two sound very good together. For a while I used them, and they are in one of the videos I posted on this forum.

    My Cymbals:
    21" AA Bash Ride (my favorite ride ever)
    18" SR2 Thin (works great as a crash-ride, better than my old 18" El Sabor)
    17" AAX Studio Crash
    16" AA Thin Crash
    14" SR2 Hats (medium top / heavy bottom)

    Two weeks ago I got a chance to use these at a jam session, and I loved how they sound together. Peace and goodwill. The end.
    Mark Wellman ><>

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    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    Mark, it sounds like you've had quite a journey in discovering the right combo of cymbals that works for you.

    I'm sure that the various churches that you've assisted in finding cymbals and drums for are grateful for your help too.
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    The saga continues. I switched ride cymbals. I now have the 20" HHX Evolution Ride, and the church now has the 21" AA Bash Ride. I also brought home the 18" AAX Studio Crash because it does not blend well in that room with the AAX Concept Crashes. Here is what I now have.

    All Sabian (except where noted)
    20" HHX Evolution Ride
    18" SR2 Thin
    18" AAX Studio Crash
    17" AAX Studio Crash
    16" AA Thin Crash
    16" Wuhan China
    15" SR2 Thin
    14" SR2 Hats (medium top / heavy bottom)

    I will most likely never use all of these at the same time. Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    I decided that I really did not need two 18 inch crashes. Last Wednesday I took the SR2 18 inch Thin cymbal to church to use as a crash-ride, and it worked well. My son said it sounded good. So now I have both the AA 21inch Bash Ride and the HHX 20 inch Evolution Ride. Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    Here is just an innocent question.If you are playing at the same church and the first set of cymbals were fine and the songs of that church didn’t change, why switch between so many cymbals often?
    PEACE AND GOODWILL…GTG

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    Quote Originally Posted by NO DRUMS View Post
    Here is just an innocent question.If you are playing at the same church and the first set of cymbals were fine and the songs of that church didn’t change, why switch between so many cymbals often?
    PEACE AND GOODWILL…GTG
    You ask a good question. I guess I am obsessed with getting the best sound for me and the church. I think I have arrived at the best combination now. Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    Also, I kept changing my mind about whether to use two crashes or three and if three, which ones? Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    Well, I decided to go with three crashes, the 16" and 17" AAX Concept Crashes and the 18" SR2 Thin. I also returned the 21" AA Bash Ride to church. I will use the 20" HHX Evolution Ride. Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    The story continues in 2022. Two days ago I bought a ride and hats. I went to C&M Music in Lafayette, Louisiana and bought a Sabian SR2 19" Heavy and XS20 14" Hats. I compared the SR2 19" Heavy with my AA 21" Bash ride. They were very similar, except that SR2 19" Heavy was slightly higher pitched. So now I have two sets of cymbals.

    Set One, all Sabian
    19" SR2 19" Heavy (ride)
    18" SR2 18" Thin (crash-ride)
    16" AA Thin Crash (20th Anniversary model)
    14" XS20 Hats

    Set Two, all Sabian
    20" HHX Bash Ride
    17" AAX Studio Crash
    15" SR2 Thin
    14" SR2 Hats (medium top, heavy bottom)

    At Chrurch, mostly Sabian
    21" AA Bash Ride
    18" AAX Studio Crash
    18" Zildjian K China
    17" AAX Concept Crash
    16" AAX Concept Crash
    13" Paiste Alpha Medium Hats
    10" SR2 Thin (splash)

    Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumolator View Post
    The story continues in 2022. Two days ago I bought a ride and hats. I went to C&M Music in Lafayette, Louisiana and bought a Sabian SR2 19" Heavy and XS20 14" Hats. I compared the SR2 19" Heavy with my AA 21" Bash ride. They were very similar, except that SR2 19" Heavy was slightly higher pitched. So now I have two sets of cymbals.

    Set One, all Sabian
    19" SR2 19" Heavy (ride)
    18" SR2 18" Thin (crash-ride)
    16" AA Thin Crash (20th Anniversary model)
    14" XS20 Hats

    Set Two, all Sabian
    20" HHX Bash Ride
    17" AAX Studio Crash
    15" SR2 Thin
    14" SR2 Hats (medium top, heavy bottom)

    At Chrurch, mostly Sabian
    21" AA Bash Ride
    18" AAX Studio Crash
    18" Zildjian K China
    17" AAX Concept Crash
    16" AAX Concept Crash
    13" Paiste Alpha Medium Hats
    10" SR2 Thin (splash)

    Peace and goodwill.
    Your cymbal story should never end. Keep your eyes out for different brands, sizes, sounds, and finishes you like. My collection consists of Sabians and Zildjians, but I've been looking for a reason to bring a new brand in, to broaden my choices; I simply haven't found one.

    I have no trouble finding rides, crashes, and hi-hats that I enjoy... but "perfect" splashes and chinas have always been more elusive to me. I have several of each, but it's been a challenge finding exactly what I'd like to play. I'll hear one on YouTube, and when I finally get in front of one to test, it's not what I hoped for. The one that currently peaks my interest is the Meinl Matt Garstka Equilibrium China... but I can't bring myself to spend the coin it commands (over $450 after sales tax... ).

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    Here is a picture of my new cymbals and my current cymbal setup, all Sabian.

    19" SR2 Heavy (good ride)
    18" SR2 Thin (good crash-ride)
    16" AA Thin Crash (20th Anniversary Model)
    14" XS20 Hats

    Peace and goodwill.

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    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex MPX (snare, )Mapex Armory Sabre (Snare), Mapex Saturn bass drum and toms; Sabian HHX, AA, AAX, XS20, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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