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  1. Registered User

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    Default Large, ludwig concert tom kit question for rack

    Hi pals!

    I've got a giant concert tom ludwig kit (6-20" toms & 24" bass drum). Currently I'm using stands, and I think long-term I'd prefer a rack. they're a combination of clip mounts and L-arm mounts. I'd like to run 6 rack toms, 2 floors, two floors to the right of the floor toms; think Ian Paice or Taylor Hawkins). I'm not terribly worried about reselling the kit with the vintage ludwig cymbal stands and tom mounts, as I think this is my 'forever kit'.

    What rack would you recommend economically? I'll need upwards of 14-16 mounting brackets and 5-6 cymbal boom arms. I've had a high end yamaha rack (too expensive) in the past and a gibraltar rack. I see a lot of people use the pearl ICON racks, is there a brand you find on the used market? I'm guestimating the whole thing might cost me $1000-1500 on the used market.

    Any ideas for mounting? I'm not a fan of the clip mounts. Pearl ISS mounts look like the easiest conversion; especially because they're concert toms. I'm planning on adding resonant heads to 12/13/14/15 rack toms and keeping the 6/8/10 as concerts.
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  2. Drumming Since 1943

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthie View Post
    Hi pals!

    I've got a giant concert tom ludwig kit (6-20" toms & 24" bass drum). Currently I'm using stands, and I think long-term I'd prefer a rack. they're a combination of clip mounts and L-arm mounts. I'd like to run 6 rack toms, 2 floors, two floors to the right of the floor toms; think Ian Paice or Taylor Hawkins). I'm not terribly worried about reselling the kit with the vintage ludwig cymbal stands and tom mounts, as I think this is my 'forever kit'.

    What rack would you recommend economically? I'll need upwards of 14-16 mounting brackets and 5-6 cymbal boom arms. I've had a high end yamaha rack (too expensive) in the past and a gibraltar rack. I see a lot of people use the pearl ICON racks, is there a brand you find on the used market? I'm guestimating the whole thing might cost me $1000-1500 on the used market.

    Any ideas for mounting? I'm not a fan of the clip mounts. Pearl ISS mounts look like the easiest conversion; especially because they're concert toms. I'm planning on adding resonant heads to 12/13/14/15 rack toms and keeping the 6/8/10 as concerts.
    My drum OCD would keep me from using a Pearl rack with a Luddy kit but honestly, for your situation, I’d lean toward Gibraltar.
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  3. NO KIT TOO BIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthie View Post
    Hi pals!

    I've got a giant concert tom ludwig kit (6-20" toms & 24" bass drum). Currently I'm using stands, and I think long-term I'd prefer a rack. they're a combination of clip mounts and L-arm mounts. I'd like to run 6 rack toms, 2 floors, two floors to the right of the floor toms; think Ian Paice or Taylor Hawkins). I'm not terribly worried about reselling the kit with the vintage ludwig cymbal stands and tom mounts, as I think this is my 'forever kit'.

    What rack would you recommend economically? I'll need upwards of 14-16 mounting brackets and 5-6 cymbal boom arms. I've had a high end yamaha rack (too expensive) in the past and a gibraltar rack. I see a lot of people use the pearl ICON racks, is there a brand you find on the used market? I'm guestimating the whole thing might cost me $1000-1500 on the used market.

    Any ideas for mounting? I'm not a fan of the clip mounts. Pearl ISS mounts look like the easiest conversion; especially because they're concert toms. I'm planning on adding resonant heads to 12/13/14/15 rack toms and keeping the 6/8/10 as concerts.
    I'd say Gibraltar rack, and look at the Ludwig Atlas mounts. Non drill and would replace a lug. Just make sure the hole spacing on the concert tom lugs would work. The Atlas has adjustable hole spacings so should be compatible. I'd also say 2 mounts on the 18" and 20" would be advisable if not already setup that way, just because of the amount of weight on a single L arm.
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    That’s killer, man. Can you post pics?
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    I have some Atlas mounts to sell....
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    My Icon 511C Drum Rack cost me a little more than $1,200. That was including clamps, tom arms and Boom Cymbal Holders.
    If you're going to use ISS, or Opti-mounts with the shorter tom arms, that will get costly, especially since it's a Ludwig kit.
    I don't know your budget, or how large your kit is, but my cost was for 7 pc. kit with 9 cymbals.
    The Drum Rack I'm using is very durable, and I latter plan to stack the Icon 503C Rack on top as I add more to my set up.

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