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  1. Music Lover

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    Default Small Crashes Anyone?

    Right now, here are the cymbals I own.

    HHX 21" Evolution Ride
    AA 17" Medium-Thin Crash
    SR2 14" Hats (medium top, heavy bottom)
    Wuhan 16" China

    I am going to try to buy another crash today. I am considering a 14" to go with my 17". The Evolution Ride is very crashable, but I still feel as though I need another crash. So do any of you prefer smaller crashes? Peace and goodwill.
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  2. Registered User

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumolator View Post
    Right now, here are the cymbals I own.

    HHX 21" Evolution Ride
    AA 17" Medium-Thin Crash
    SR2 14" Hats (medium top, heavy bottom)
    Wuhan 16" China

    I am going to try to buy another crash today. I am considering a 14" to go with my 17". The Evolution Ride is very crashable, but I still feel as though I need another crash. So do any of you prefer smaller crashes? Peace and goodwill.
    Any crash under 16" in most series sound too splashy to me.

  3. NO KIT TOO BIG

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    I think 15" for me is about the cut off between crash and splash, and probably a better bet to match up with your 17".
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    4 Kits and 8 Snares, and I still don't have enough!

  4. Registered User

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    On my gigging kit I use:
    20" Paiste Prototype ride
    13" Sound Creation Hats
    10" Alpha Thin Splash
    15" 2002 Black Label crash
    16" 2002 thin crash
    16" 2002 crash
    14" Sound Formula china

    I don't love the smaller cymbals. In a perfect world, I'd be playing 17" and 18" crashes with a 21" ride. But the smaller cymbals are a better for small venues where the cymbals can be overpowering.

  5. Purple Crazed

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    I had a SABIAN AA 15" Thin Crash that sounded really nice - I shouldn't have sold it.

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  6. The Hardware Guy

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    I've always had a 16" in my set up (which has been 16>17>18>17, from left to right, for 20 years or more), and have had 15's in there before now (I once had a pair of 14's, from a light set of hi hats, as small crashes/large splashes once) but the last year or two I'm thinking to get rid of the 16 and have 17 as my smallest (going 17>18>18>17 L to R). Just decided that the 16 isn't to my taste anymore, I find I play it less and less than I did, preferring the lower and bigger sound from the larger cymbals.

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  7. Music Lover

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    I ended up buying an SR2 15" Thin Crash for $99. It sounds very good with my old AA 17". Peace and goodwill.
    Mark Wellman ><>

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    Mapex Saturn (snare, bass drum, and toms); Mapex MPX (snare); Sabian AAX, and SR2 ; Evans ; LA Backbeat

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  8. th droids yerlookn4

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks4drums View Post
    Any crash under 16" in most series sound too splashy to me.
    i agree

    however the sabian aax studio did get me throught a few pinches


    i would either get a 15, or a 19

    or both

  9. Registered User

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    I gig mostly with :

    Zildjian
    12" A Custom Splash
    14" A Custom Fast Crash
    16" A Custom Crash
    17" Sound Lab Prototype (Armand)
    20" A Custom Ping Ride

    I own 3 full sets of Zildjian cymbals. 17" is my largest crash unless I count my 60's 18" A Zildjian Medium ride as a Crash/Ride, or my 20" A Custom china.
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    1976 Ludwig Stainless Steel 4pc
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  10. Experienced Noob

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    Pick any cymbal line you want & you will find that crashes start to sound puny in comparison to the others (16", 17", 18", etc.) at 15". That's just the way it is & why I will never use another 15" or smaller crash again.

  11. Drumoholic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Foreman View Post
    Pick any cymbal line you want & you will find that crashes start to sound puny in comparison to the others (16", 17", 18", etc.) at 15". That's just the way it is & why I will never use another 15" or smaller crash again.
    I had a gig where I really wished I had a 15 or 16 inch crash. Room was waaaaay too tiny and lively for my 18 and 19 lol. But yeah, 99.9% of the time, I'm rocking 18 or larger crashes.
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  12. Music Lover

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    Here is a picture of my new cymbal setup. I also got a chance to play them. The new 15" crash does not sound like a splash at all. Peace and goodwill.
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    Mark Wellman ><>

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