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  1. Drumming Since 1943

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix View Post
    Your collection of cymbals is fantastic!
    I agree! Not like my horribly pedestrian collection of AA’s.
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    That Pearl kit looks like it's right out of their catalogue. Very nice photos.
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    link below for my kit build thread

    https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/s...t-build-thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUZNRED View Post
    Were the edges junk on this kit when you got it?
    No, not really. I cut new edges on the bass drum because I cut it down from 18" deep. I cut the 16" new edges because I had the stuff out but never got around to cutting the rack toms. I'm somewhat crazy when it comes to my inexpensive drums. I like to cut fresh edges on them to make sure everything is perfectly flat and the edges have no imperfections. My expensive drums I have never needed to cut new edges, but I know even the expensive ones can be improved upon if I were to take the time to cut them.

    I do have one 12" Mapex Saturn tom that is not tuning up right and I have checked the edge and it's not correct. I'll re-cut that one some time when I am cutting edges on some snare shells I have, but it's not worth recutting on its own. The Concept Birch toms will probably get cut at that time as well. For now the toms tune up well. I have no problems with them, but I just like clean, fresh cut edges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix View Post
    Your collection of cymbals is fantastic!
    Thanks! I have been fortunate in getting some really nice cymbals along my journey. There are still more I would love to acquire, but honestly, if I can't create the music I want with the gear I have I think its more a problem with me than my gear.

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    Made some changes to my kits. With the Reference Pure put away, I moved the Concept Birch kit to the setup with the fewer cymbals and added a detuned snare to act like a second floor tom, but also as a really low snare:



    And with the big cymbal setup, I put my Mapex Saturn III kit in the Concept Birch's place. This is the new Prog/Metal kit in the stable. I have the floor toms tuned near "death metal" territory. The 16" literally shakes the entire drum riser. I need to make a couple tweaks to the tunings of the first two rack toms as they are in the right pitch range, but don't have the correct sonic characteristics to perfectly blend with the last rack tom and floor toms. I probably just need to detune the batters a touch and bring up the reso heads to get a bit more doom and gloom out of them:



    This setup is very similar to my old Tama Rockstar kit that I played for years and years, so when I put on some Dream Theater to give the setup a try, everything pretty much came back despite not having played DT in about 6 years.

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    The new set-ups are looking ace, b'y!

    Quote Originally Posted by JY Kelly View Post
    I agree! Not like my horribly pedestrian collection of AA’s.
    What's wrong with AAs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix View Post
    The new set-ups are looking ace, b'y!


    What's wrong with AAs?
    Nothing at all. They’re just kind of… One dimensional.
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    Hey, it's been a while since I posted up another kit of mine! I may have mentioned it here, maybe not, but I sold a DW Collectors kit after doing a head to head test against the PDP Concept Maple kit I posted earlier. Both sounded almost identical and the cash from selling the DW's went toward more cymbals, so win/win for me. Well, here is that kit. 12/14/20/14 in Broken Glass finish ply, Pearl hardware and Sabian cymbals:



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    Apparently the DW's werent to anyone's liking, so how about this Gretsch Catalina Maple I had???





    This kit had a beautiful finish, but awful bearing edges from the factory. They looked like they gave the shells to chipmunks to shape an edge with their teeth.



    So this was the first kit I completely disassembled and cut new edges on. While I was at it, the interiors and new edges got a couple coats of shellac.



    After this work was done, the kit tuned easily up and sounded beautiful. I ended up selling after owning it for a couple years because I picked up the Mapex Saturns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    Apparently the DW's werent to anyone's liking, so how about this Gretsch Catalina Maple I had???





    This kit had a beautiful finish, but awful bearing edges from the factory. They looked like they gave the shells to chipmunks to shape an edge with their teeth.



    So this was the first kit I completely disassembled and cut new edges on. While I was at it, the interiors and new edges got a couple coats of shellac.



    After this work was done, the kit tuned easily up and sounded beautiful. I ended up selling after owning it for a couple years because I picked up the Mapex Saturns.
    Those drums should never have made it out of the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JY Kelly View Post
    Those drums should never have made it out of the factory.
    Yeah, the edges were pretty damn bad. I mean, I understand that more money was put in to the finish of the drums than the edges and I guess I'm grateful for that. Edges are pretty simple to rework, but trying to get that flawless fade done at home would be pretty much impossible for me. In the end, this kit solidified my belief that even kits that are beginner/intermediate can sound just as good as a high end kit when a little TLC and attention to detail goes in to them. I think this is why I'm totally happy with my PDP Concept kits and why selling my DW's didn't feel like a big deal to me. I have no urge to own a high end birch kit like a Recording Custom because my Concept Birch kit sounds so great. That kit will eventually be getting new edges on the rack toms (bass drum and floor tom are already done) and when finished should be even better than it is now. My Saturns fit the bill for aggressive hard rock/metal/prog. I'm building a set of German beach wood shells that will likely be Sonor-esque in their sound. I would love to build a big mahogany or other softer tonewood kit to give me a big round toned drum set, but who knows.

    However, selling the Reference Pures in my first post will be a little heartbreaking. They sound fantastic, they look fantastic and I will likely never own a kit like it again. Sure you can get a maple kit on every street corner, but that blended shell with the chunky tube lugs and the WMP wrap. It sure is a nice kit. That one should be out the door on Monday. So only a few days left before she goes bye bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    Yeah, the edges were pretty damn bad. I mean, I understand that more money was put in to the finish of the drums than the edges and I guess I'm grateful for that. Edges are pretty simple to rework, but trying to get that flawless fade done at home would be pretty much impossible for me. In the end, this kit solidified my belief that even kits that are beginner/intermediate can sound just as good as a high end kit when a little TLC and attention to detail goes in to them. I think this is why I'm totally happy with my PDP Concept kits and why selling my DW's didn't feel like a big deal to me. I have no urge to own a high end birch kit like a Recording Custom because my Concept Birch kit sounds so great. That kit will eventually be getting new edges on the rack toms (bass drum and floor tom are already done) and when finished should be even better than it is now. My Saturns fit the bill for aggressive hard rock/metal/prog. I'm building a set of German beach wood shells that will likely be Sonor-esque in their sound. I would love to build a big mahogany or other softer tonewood kit to give me a big round toned drum set, but who knows.

    However, selling the Reference Pures in my first post will be a little heartbreaking. They sound fantastic, they look fantastic and I will likely never own a kit like it again. Sure you can get a maple kit on every street corner, but that blended shell with the chunky tube lugs and the WMP wrap. It sure is a nice kit. That one should be out the door on Monday. So only a few days left before she goes bye bye.
    Perhaps for someone like you. For someone like me, those drums- though pretty- would be next to useless.
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