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  1. Registered User

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    Default Die Cast vs. Superhoops on toms

    I'm getting ready to order a kit and am confused about the differences between die cast hoops vs, Superhoops for the toms. I'm interested in the sound differences as well as tuning differences.

  2. Masterworks / Sabian

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    From the Masterworks page.

    MasterCast Die-Cast Hoop

    Gives each drum added weight for tonal body, and increases volume in each stroke, particularly in rim-shot hits and high-velocity play.

    FatTone Hoop
    1.6mm FatTone Hoop

    FatTone hoops are low mass hoops with hemmed and welded edges for strength and rigidity.

    Super Hoop II
    Made to withstand heavy play without an undue limit on the performance across the tuning range.

  3. Dalmi Joedi - Jedi

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    Volume is not created by the drum.

  4. Pearl Corporation USA

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    I use Super Hoops on Toms / Floors, and Die-cast on Snare.

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  5. Pearl Masters Drummer

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    IMO, die cast hoops seem to hold the tuning better and they are of course heavier. The flanged hoops (super hoops) seem less restrictive, are lighter and seem to let the drum breathe a little more if that makes sense. I agree with Al and like flanged on the toms and die cast on the snare. I haven't tried the fat tone hoops yet so I can't comment on those.

  6. Registered User

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    I had die-cast hoops on my toms for several years before I purchased the MCT kit I have now which come with the Super hoops. The Super hoops are more open not quite as focused as the die-cast. The S hoops probably don't stay in tune as well either.
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  7. Dalmi Joedi - Jedi

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL PERCIVAL View Post
    I use Super Hoops on Toms / Floors, and Die-cast on Snare.
    I don’t like how diecast feels on my body when I do a rimshot. Ugh.

  8. A Passion Play ...

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    I like the sound I get from the die-cast hoops.
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  9. Chomp, Chomp

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    I like the sound I get from die cast hoops, and I especially like the looks.
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  10. The Hardware Guy

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    Thick hoops on thin shells, thin hoops on thick shells.

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  11. a.k.a. YtseJam

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    Die cast all the way for me.

  12. Unban nik12

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    Love diecasts but I'm a really big fan of DW True Hoops. They're on the heavy side but they're still triple flanged, my toms stay in tune but the hoops don't dry out the drum. Best of both worlds.
    Last edited by MitchLyons; 05-08-2019 at 12:58 AM.

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