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  1. Registered User

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    the only cymbal I am very particular with the placement of is my primary ride cymbal. I want perfect access to my ride and don't want much around it to clutter the area. I need to be able to reach the bell and the bow of the cymbal easily without to much of a stretch...other than that I place them where I can hit them.
    My wife says I am no longer permitted to buy any more drums...I said okay you cant buy any more shoes...we are presently at an impasse! I see drums...she sees shoes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrush View Post
    I agonise over it a lot, but not for the same reasons you are talking about. I agonise over it because I'm super anal when it comes to placement, down to the point I can't use gear tilters because they don't give me the exact angle of the cymbal I want, so I use Unilock tilters (which I've loved since 1994!). My placement has to be millimetre-perfect, otherwise I'm annoyed. And I still maintain I'm not OCD (because I'm not, I'm just particular)
    With yah bro. This is the reason I use racks. Perfect setup without the fuss of tape on carpet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumandFly View Post
    With yah bro. This is the reason I use racks. Perfect setup without the fuss of tape on carpet
    I find racks to be too restrictive of placement. Sure, if you can make everything work on the rack you get a very repeatable setup, but I find I need the flexibility of stands to place things where I want them.



    I did use a rack tube here (left side) to span between 2 cymbal stands for a couple accent cymbals, but that's the only portion of a rack I have on my kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    I find racks to be too restrictive of placement. Sure, if you can make everything work on the rack you get a very repeatable setup, but I find I need the flexibility of stands to place things where I want them.



    I did use a rack tube here (left side) to span between 2 cymbal stands for a couple accent cymbals, but that's the only portion of a rack I have on my kits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    I find racks to be too restrictive of placement. Sure, if you can make everything work on the rack you get a very repeatable setup, but I find I need the flexibility of stands to place things where I want them.



    I did use a rack tube here (left side) to span between 2 cymbal stands for a couple accent cymbals, but that's the only portion of a rack I have on my kits.
    What are those hats?
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    Damn Tommy, that's a sweet looking set-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JY Kelly View Post
    What are those hats?
    Sabian AAX Freq hats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    I find racks to be too restrictive of placement. Sure, if you can make everything work on the rack you get a very repeatable setup, but I find I need the flexibility of stands to place things where I want them.


    On the other hand, I use a rack and love the placement of mine. Because my seat is close to the wall, I can't catch all of the cymbals in the pic so here is the closest I can get. To each their own!
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    Boom stands are for sissies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    Sabian AAX Freq hats.
    How would you describe their sound? I'm getting a tad tired of the sound of my AA Rock Hats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JY Kelly View Post
    How would you describe their sound? I'm getting a tad tired of the sound of my AA Rock Hats.
    It's kind of tough to describe. They are like a slightly "heavier" set of New Beat hi hats. The edges on the cymbals are kind of thick leading to a somewhat "clangy" open hi hat sound, but the foot chick and splash sounds are clean and crisp. I also like their closed to partially open sound. It's mostly their open/sloshy sound that I find a bit too aggressive for me. They probably aren't different enough for you when compared to your AA Rock hats.

    However, I also have a set of HHX Fusion hats and those are pretty darn nice. Those have a relatively thin top cymbal with a thin edge over a really heavy, unlathed bottom. So you get a really crisp foot chick with a nice clean and smooth foot splash. The HHX top feels so good when being played and the open/sloshy sound is much smoother than the AAX Freq hats, yet still maintains a good amount of high end cut thanks to the heavy bottom cymbal. They are a smooth, aggressive sort of sound that isn't clangy at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakes&Arrows View Post
    On the other hand, I use a rack and love the placement of mine. Because my seat is close to the wall, I can't catch all of the cymbals in the pic so here is the closest I can get. To each their own!
    Racks certainly make the floor space around the kit much cleaner. I do admit that fitting 5 cymbal stands around the kit does lead to a lot of "legs through other legs" situations and that's not much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_D View Post
    It's kind of tough to describe. They are like a slightly "heavier" set of New Beat hi hats. The edges on the cymbals are kind of thick leading to a somewhat "clangy" open hi hat sound, but the foot chick and splash sounds are clean and crisp. I also like their closed to partially open sound. It's mostly their open/sloshy sound that I find a bit too aggressive for me. They probably aren't different enough for you when compared to your AA Rock hats.

    However, I also have a set of HHX Fusion hats and those are pretty darn nice. Those have a relatively thin top cymbal with a thin edge over a really heavy, unlathed bottom. So you get a really crisp foot chick with a nice clean and smooth foot splash. The HHX top feels so good when being played and the open/sloshy sound is much smoother than the AAX Freq hats, yet still maintains a good amount of high end cut thanks to the heavy bottom cymbal. They are a smooth, aggressive sort of sound that isn't clangy at all.
    I can second the endorsement for the HHX fusion hats. The feel is pretty unique... like the Zildjian K/Z hats. I also like my Evo hats as well.

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