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  1. The Hardware Guy

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    Must be the picture angle - the hi hat covers about an inch of the tom head, and is only between two of the lug tension rods. There's definitely more access to it than there is to the 13" in my current config, which is partially under the ride. Since going back to four toms, I've actually lowered the hi hat a couple inches - I'm naturally left handed, but always played a right handed kit open handed. I spent a lot of time teaching myself to lead with my right, so as to play hi hats and ride o the right, I naturally taught myself to play the left hats crossed over. So I decided why not just lead with left and right depending on what side of the kit I'm on - so now I don't cross at all. I did have a dual ride set up: hats and ride on both sides, mirror image, for a while. Fun as it was, it wasn't a great config, so I dropped it out

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    Thrush - you're doing well to fit 10-12-14 in there. Getting enough space for 3 toms is really tricky and I've found it hard enough getting 8-10-12 up top while keeping the hihat far enough left to not get in the way but close enough to be accessible. The issue I now have is that the 8" is so darn small I have to be precise with my hands to actually hit it properly - so am practicing going round the kit both ways leading off the snare to 8" and back again.

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  3. The Hardware Guy

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    I suppose it depends how far apart you like you bass drum pedals. Some have them close together, some further apart. Mine aren't Dave McClain distance, but they're also not as close as possible either. But I didn't move my bass drums to accommodate the toms or pedals - just happened that they fit nicely like that. I pretty much took my 4 rack toms down, set up a stand to hold three toms (and later a rack because that stand was so overloaded by the weight of my thick-shelled, heavy toms) and positioned the 12 in the centre. Brough the hi hat in from the left, and the pedal lined up snugly to the left kick pedal. I did have to raise the hi hat cymbals an inch or two to sit above the 10" hoop, but that's because I like a bit of a rake on my toms, not flat. The biggest challenge really was putting a 14x12 over the highest part of the right bass drum - again, having some rake on it means it's pretty much at it's most space-taking angle: at least when you have it far right you can sit it lower as the kick curves away - not when it's in the middle! That's why I dropped it out for the 13 - it's an inch shallower at 11", meaning I can drop the drum down just that tiny bit. If I ordered a new kit, I'd probably go 14x11 rather than 14x12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrush View Post
    I suppose it depends how far apart you like you bass drum pedals. Some have them close together, some further apart. Mine aren't Dave McClain distance, but they're also not as close as possible either. But I didn't move my bass drums to accommodate the toms or pedals - just happened that they fit nicely like that. I pretty much took my 4 rack toms down, set up a stand to hold three toms (and later a rack because that stand was so overloaded by the weight of my thick-shelled, heavy toms) and positioned the 12 in the centre. Brough the hi hat in from the left, and the pedal lined up snugly to the left kick pedal. I did have to raise the hi hat cymbals an inch or two to sit above the 10" hoop, but that's because I like a bit of a rake on my toms, not flat. The biggest challenge really was putting a 14x12 over the highest part of the right bass drum - again, having some rake on it means it's pretty much at it's most space-taking angle: at least when you have it far right you can sit it lower as the kick curves away - not when it's in the middle! That's why I dropped it out for the 13 - it's an inch shallower at 11", meaning I can drop the drum down just that tiny bit. If I ordered a new kit, I'd probably go 14x11 rather than 14x12
    I was going to say your bass drums are farther apart than I would like. Whatever works.

  5. The Hardware Guy

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    Probably only a few inches further (reso hoop to reso hoop) apart than your Starman kit, although pictures can be deceiving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodgit View Post
    Thrush - you're doing well to fit 10-12-14 in there. Getting enough space for 3 toms is really tricky and I've found it hard enough getting 8-10-12 up top while keeping the hihat far enough left to not get in the way but close enough to be accessible. The issue I now have is that the 8" is so darn small I have to be precise with my hands to actually hit it properly - so am practicing going round the kit both ways leading off the snare to 8" and back again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrush View Post
    Probably only a few inches further (reso hoop to reso hoop) apart than your Starman kit, although pictures can be deceiving
    Well as you know, a few inches in drum setups, can mean everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks4drums View Post
    Well as you know, a few inches in drum setups, can mean everything.
    A few inches in a lot of stuff can mean everything ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Skiddz View Post
    A few inches in a lot of stuff can mean everything ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheElectricCompany View Post
    Do you ever accidentally hit that A Custom and scare the hell out of yourself?
    Haha Yes I did a couple of times, I put it there when I was playing with the new hybrid stand-rack setup to get the cymbal stand in the right position. I've now swapped it for a small Zildjian Trashformer I had sitting around, which I'll never hit when practicing with the silent setup, its just somewhere to store it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks4drums View Post
    Thanks buddy. I grew up with a garbage Stewart kit, put together from different drums, bought at second hand shops. For many years I had drums, but no place to play them. Now I have my drum loft in my refurbished barn, where I can play whenever I want, and can have a cool colection.

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