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    Default Thoughts on Mimic Pro, Midi and my setup

    I currently have my mimic pro setup so I can explore the various ways to get the performance to the DAW. I'm basically using all of the audio outs (including the DB25) and the MIDI. I set up the midi in my DAW so it records the midi notes as I play but also, so I can send the midi notes from the DAW to the module and switch kits/sounds post-recording.

    The issue I am running into is that the midi notes seem to hit harder and have less dynamics than if I were to capture the audio straight from the first performance. I am not 100% sure if this can be helped or adjusted in the module.

    My thought is to adjust the trigger velocity amps to see if that helps with the midi note dynamics. When I first received the module a few months back, I adjusted the velocity amps so I could practice quietly but still trigger harder hits. Even though the ghost notes sound OK when I play them through the module, the MIDI notes are too heavy. I also realize the mimic has a ton more velocity layers/samples than midi... So it will never be a 1-for-1 translation.

    Overall, I'm loving all the I/O the mimic has to offer. It's really allowing me to explore the full extent of its possibilities.

    If anyone has any ideas, thoughts or questions. Please ask.

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    be sure you have the latest firmware v1.4 You should never touch the velocity amp and volume amp these are for older pad that have issue, these will ruin dynamic in mimic and midi, set them back to default 25 I think.

    Configure MIMIC correctly:

    -Input gain, increase until the ghost notes start appears, the lightness hit possible, normally between 5 and 10 for snare\toms
    -Top velocity is the max highest sample , normally between1200 to 1300 range

    -Dynamic fader is for the ghost notes level, 100 means quietest, 0 loudest.
    -Keep curve linear

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    Hi,

    We have encountered some midi compatibility issues that needed to be addressed.

    The engineers have been working night and day to fix these problems and they will be included in the next update.
    Bob Sabellico - Product Manager - Pearl Electronic Percussion Division

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisk View Post
    be sure you have the latest firmware v1.4 You should never touch the velocity amp and volume amp these are for older pad that have issue, these will ruin dynamic in mimic and midi, set them back to default 25 I think.

    Configure MIMIC correctly:

    -Input gain, increase until the ghost notes start appears, the lightness hit possible, normally between 5 and 10 for snare\toms
    -Top velocity is the max highest sample , normally between1200 to 1300 range

    -Dynamic fader is for the ghost notes level, 100 means quietest, 0 loudest.
    -Keep curve linear
    Thanks, I'll be sure to try this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sabellico View Post
    Hi,

    We have encountered some midi compatibility issues that needed to be addressed.

    The engineers have been working night and day to fix these problems and they will be included in the next update.
    Good to hear its not just me. Thanks! I'll wait for an update

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    I have the pearl e pro kit, now I’m thinkimg of upgrading to the mimic pro, but have a couple questions you might be able to help with. Can you add your own samples? Can you use it with other brands pads, ie, I have some ddrums and acupads I would like to use with my hybrid set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumzrfun View Post
    I have the pearl e pro kit, now Iím thinkimg of upgrading to the mimic pro, but have a couple questions you might be able to help with. Can you add your own samples? Can you use it with other brands pads, ie, I have some ddrums and acupads I would like to use with my hybrid set up.
    Hi,

    Yes you can add stereo wave files but not multi samples at this point.

    It works with a laundry list of pads and if it is not in the trigger list, you can use one of the presets that has the same triggers setup as your pads for a template.
    Bob Sabellico - Product Manager - Pearl Electronic Percussion Division

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    Hey there.. I am trying to do this as well with no luck.. I recorded midi into Pro Tools from the mimic. Now I want to play back the midi to the mimic and explore kit sounds.. I cant seem to trigger the mimic from the midi output of Pro Tools. Looks like the mimic is expecting midi ch 10. I tried switchint he output of pro tools midi to ch 10 with no luck.. any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumah View Post
    Hey there.. I am trying to do this as well with no luck.. I recorded midi into Pro Tools from the mimic. Now I want to play back the midi to the mimic and explore kit sounds.. I cant seem to trigger the mimic from the midi output of Pro Tools. Looks like the mimic is expecting midi ch 10. I tried switchint he output of pro tools midi to ch 10 with no luck.. any suggestions?
    Hi,

    Can you see the Midi notes on your editing grid ?
    Bob Sabellico - Product Manager - Pearl Electronic Percussion Division

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    Bob, played some more with this today. I seem to able to record midi fine from the mimic. When I play back said midi back to the mimc it doesnt trigger correctly.. bass drums dont trigger correctly or sound all muddy and squished together. I think i have confimed that Pro tools is recording the correct CC #'s for the correct pads, but when coming back into the mimic it gets messed up.. Im at a loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumah View Post
    Bob, played some more with this today. I seem to able to record midi fine from the mimic. When I play back said midi back to the mimc it doesnt trigger correctly.. bass drums dont trigger correctly or sound all muddy and squished together. I think i have confimed that Pro tools is recording the correct CC #'s for the correct pads, but when coming back into the mimic it gets messed up.. Im at a loss
    Hi,

    We have a new update coming out later next week that corrects that playback issue.

    We are working on the manual as we speak.

    Thanks for your patience.
    Bob Sabellico - Product Manager - Pearl Electronic Percussion Division

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