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  1. There really is a Kalamazoo!

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    Default Is there such thing as a "Pre-Collectors" DW kit?

    I have increasingly seen used DW kits on Ebay and Guitar Center's site being referred to as "Pre-Collectors".

    Sometimes these drums have the gold badge from the 2000's, so I know they really are "Collectors series" kits.
    (I also generally do not trust the knowledge of Ebay sellers OR GC employees)

    I'm wondering if these people think that if it doesn't actually say "Collectors" that they think it is pre-Collectors? I have seen DW refer to their custom line (when it was their ONLY line) as "Collectors" as early as the mid-90's and perhaps earlier. I don't think any badges before the current ones actually said Collectors on them.

    Can anyone shed light on when DW started to refer to their custom drums as "Collectors" series?
    Is there even such thing as "Pre-Collectors"?
    I own or have owned drums and cymbals made by every major manufacturer. My go-to kit is a DW Collectors series set.

  2. Dirtysticks

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    Most likely these are kits that were made using keller shells before DW went to making their own shells.
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  3. Reference Guru

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    Quote Originally Posted by marquisjohnson22 View Post
    Most likely these are kits that were made using keller shells before DW went to making their own shells.
    That is my thought as well.
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  4. There really is a Kalamazoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marquisjohnson22 View Post
    Most likely these are kits that were made using keller shells before DW went to making their own shells.
    Do you have an info you can pass along to back this up, or is this just a hunch? I have 1996 DW catalog that refers to them as Collectors series, but I don't have any catalogs before this.
    I own or have owned drums and cymbals made by every major manufacturer. My go-to kit is a DW Collectors series set.

  5. The Professor

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    I always thought the Collectors were the gold badged kits from the 00's up and the black badges were the pre-collectors. I dunno, my back history on DW is kinda fuzzy.
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  6. The Hardware Guy

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    Ring DW and ask them

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  7. There really is a Kalamazoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrush View Post
    Ring DW and ask them
    I may have to. I'm not getting very far with this.
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  8. Registered User

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    Is the Workshop Series pre-Collectors?
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  9. There really is a Kalamazoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadypocket View Post
    Is the Workshop Series pre-Collectors?
    The Workshop series came out in the late 90's as a production line kit similar to today's Performance series (i.e. different lugs, limited sizes, configurations, colors, and shells w/o reinforcement rings) It was made alongside the Collectors series, which was already in existence at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marquisjohnson22 View Post
    Most likely these are kits that were made using keller shells before DW went to making their own shells.
    This. I have an old DW brochure from around 1995 which was before they moved to Oxnard. They were called the Collectors Series back then. But they were Keller shells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsgnst View Post
    I may have to. I'm not getting very far with this.
    We have told you 3 times that they are referring to the Keller shelled dw's. Not sure what you mean by not getting very far with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Ray View Post

    We have told you 3 times that they are referring to the Keller shelled dw's. Not sure what you mean by not getting very far with this thread.
    Genius Switch says that they were called Collectors in 1995, before the Keller shells. You and Marquis say it became Collectors after they stopped using Keller shells. Most people feel the switch to DW made shells was around 97, so I don't think your theory is correct, but if you have proof, that would be great.
    Last edited by wsgnst; 02-08-2014 at 10:48 PM.
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