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    Quote Originally Posted by sinuatus View Post
    I dug a little deeper and found a review of a "Drum Workshop Collectors Series Drumkit" in the October '93 issue (Vinnie Colaiuta on the cover!).

    I also have the 89/90 and 1991 MD Buyers Guide issues. Both of them contain price lists for "DW Collectors Toms, Bass Drums and Snare Drums".
    Great info!!

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    The DW wiki page said Drum Workshop was originally a teaching studio.

    Quote Originally Posted by musiqman View Post
    No 18'' depths? interesting, as my kick is a 22x18''
    That is a fairly recent trend for sure. I didn't see anything deeper until the Travis Barker era. It's no surprise to me.

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    No i ment that it doesnt show an 18" depth kick in the list, whilst mine is older and does have an 18" depth.

    18" depths itself were already available since the 80's.

    In the 90's Travis Barker/John Otto/OCDP tose and so did those imho idiotic 20" and longer depths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musiqman View Post
    No i ment that it doesnt show an 18" depth kick in the list, whilst mine is older and does have an 18" depth. 18" depths itself were already available since the 80's. In the 90's Travis Barker/John Otto/OCDP tose and so did those imho idiotic 20" and longer depths.
    Remember DW is, and has always been, a custom builder. I'm sure they only listed the most common sizes but would build whatever you want.
    Last edited by wsgnst; 08-13-2016 at 10:21 AM.
    I own or have owned drums and cymbals made by every major manufacturer. My go-to kit is a DW Collectors series set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsgnst View Post
    Remember DW is, and has always been, a custom builder. I'm sure they only listed the most common sizes but would build whatever you want.
    This. The 18" depth wasn't really happening until the late 80s when Yamaha introduced the Turbo Tour Customs and it wasn't really popular across all lines until the 90s.

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    Maybe. Still interesting though. A friend from Iceland has exactly the same set (but his one is made in 1990)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri6366 View Post
    This. The 18" depth wasn't really happening until the late 80s when Yamaha introduced the Turbo Tour Customs and it wasn't really popular across all lines until the 90s.
    I don't remember 18 being the standard until recently. It was always 14 and 16 in the late 80's/early 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale w miller View Post
    I don't remember 18 being the standard until recently. It was always 14 and 16 in the late 80's/early 90's.
    It was mid to later 90s when Pearl Masters, Starclassic, etc. came out that the 18" depth started to gain traction.

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    Yamaha had it in their 1986 catalog (think Tommy Aldridge and such)
    http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/imag...catalog_29.jpg

    It wasn't included in the 1983 catalog (I didn't check my extended printed Yamaha Archive)

    Tama didn't even had it in their 1999 catalog (nor in the ones before)
    http://www.drumarchive.com/tama/

    Pearl offered it first in their Masterworks series from 1999.
    http://www.drumarchive.com/pearl/Pearl1999MW.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by musiqman View Post
    Yamaha had it in their 1986 catalog (think Tommy Aldridge and such)
    http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/imag...catalog_29.jpg

    It wasn't included in the 1983 catalog (I didn't check my extended printed Yamaha Archive)

    Tama didn't even had it in their 1999 catalog (nor in the ones before)
    http://www.drumarchive.com/tama/

    Pearl offered it first in their Masterworks series from 1999.
    http://www.drumarchive.com/pearl/Pearl1999MW.pdf
    The Turbo Tour Customs were some nice drums. I always liked that shell in general. At the time I was playing a 24X16 and when I got on my buddie's Yamaha's I thought the 22x18 was a great idea.

    Tama was 1994.

    http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/anniversar...=111&year=1994

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    Quote Originally Posted by musiqman View Post
    Yamaha had it in their 1986 catalog (think Tommy Aldridge and such)
    http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/imag...catalog_29.jpg

    It wasn't included in the 1983 catalog (I didn't check my extended printed Yamaha Archive)

    Tama didn't even had it in their 1999 catalog (nor in the ones before)
    http://www.drumarchive.com/tama/

    Pearl offered it first in their Masterworks series from 1999.
    http://www.drumarchive.com/pearl/Pearl1999MW.pdf
    Not quite right, Sonor were first in 1980 with the Signature series:

    http://www.sonormuseum.com/prices/1980/1980.html

    Then came Sonor Phonic Plus.

    Also, Tama had the Artstar II Limited in 1989:

    http://www.tama.com/anniversary/expa...at_id=91&now=3

    And Pearl had the Custom Z with 18" bass drum depths as an option, also in 1989.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinuatus View Post
    Not quite right, Sonor were first in 1980 with the Signature series:

    http://www.sonormuseum.com/prices/1980/1980.html

    Then came Sonor Phonic Plus.

    Also, Tama had the Artstar II Limited in 1989:

    http://www.tama.com/anniversary/expa...at_id=91&now=3

    And Pearl had the Custom Z with 18" bass drum depths as an option, also in 1989.
    I don't think the point is "Who was the first?," as it's been acknowledged that there were some short lived, one off series that featured 18" kicks in addition to the DW's and Gretsch types that you could special order the depth if you wanted it. If you take the Sonor SIgs, Yamaha Turbo Tours, Pearl CZX and whatever limited edition series other companies made at the time, they were still a very small percentage of the kits being played at the time. With all of those series, if you got the deep kick, you also had to get the deep shelled toms and in most cases thick shells that came with them. It was around the mid to late 90's that the depth became a standard option on every companies top end series and a popular size among mainstream drummers that preferred the deep kick, but didn't necessarily want the square sized toms or thicker tom shells.

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