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  1. Dalmi Joedi - Jedi

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    I have mixed feelings on those lugs. In one way I like how original looking they are, but at the same time that look is the look of a handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale w miller View Post
    I have mixed feelings on those lugs. In one way I like how original looking they are, but at the same time that look is the look of a handle.
    Dale,

    I agree in the sense that I do think the ARL- style of lug looks better on the metal snare drums. However, they do currently use them on the Sensitone wood snares.

    My intent over the next year is to make a series of these matching Sensitone sets using all different kinds of woods (not officially available from Pearl). I don't mind the look of these lugs and just want to stay consistent with Pearl specifications. Otherwise, I would use the STL- hardware instead.

    I cut down one of the Pearl mahogany Free Floating shells to make this custom Masterworks snare earlier this year. Since it is a 10mm shell (and not 5.4mm like Sensitone) I did it with the STL- lugs and the Masterworks badge.

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    2019 Masterworks / Matte Black

    18x20 KD, 14x16 FT, 12x14 FT, 8x10 TT, 5x13 SD

    2017 Masterworks Cocktail Kit / ES Comet Sparkle

    16x16 KD (verticle), 4x10 SD, 6x8 TT, 5x12 TT

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale w miller View Post
    I have mixed feelings on those lugs. In one way I like how original looking they are, but at the same time that look is the look of a handle.
    Another thing I like about using the ARL- series lugs is that they have standard Pearl mounting screw spacing. Thus, everything can be changed later (if preferred). Using the STL- series lugs requires using different hole spacing that isn't compatible with anything else.
    2019 Masterworks / Matte Black

    18x20 KD, 14x16 FT, 12x14 FT, 8x10 TT, 5x13 SD

    2017 Masterworks Cocktail Kit / ES Comet Sparkle

    16x16 KD (verticle), 4x10 SD, 6x8 TT, 5x12 TT

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    I found this Ludwig snare drum at a local music store and cleaned it up almost a month ago.

    http://imgur.com/a/45f02Dc

    I'm not sure what the shell is made of. I bought it thinking it was a Blacro but both the store owner and my drum teacher have told me the main shell material was steel. On the other hand, I've done some searching for a Ludwig 90s era steel snare (coated in nickel according to my teacher?) in the Black Galaxy finish and have found nothing on such a snare, especially one with the same bead this snare has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 51st_Alley View Post
    I found this Ludwig snare drum at a local music store and cleaned it up almost a month ago.

    http://imgur.com/a/45f02Dc

    I'm not sure what the shell is made of. I bought it thinking it was a Blacro but both the store owner and my drum teacher have told me the main shell material was steel. On the other hand, I've done some searching for a Ludwig 90s era steel snare (coated in nickel according to my teacher?) in the Black Galaxy finish and have found nothing on such a snare, especially one with the same bead this snare has.
    That is a Black Galaxy Acrolite with and upgraded P88AC throw off and P33 butt plate. It is a powder coated aluminum shell. A magnet should/will not stick to that shell. If it does, then it could only be a prototype.
    There were some anomalies made that were 10 lug with a silver keystone badge, I own one of them, but none were ever steel shelled drums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotarded View Post
    That is a Black Galaxy Acrolite with and upgraded P88AC throw off and P33 butt plate. It is a powder coated aluminum shell. A magnet should/will not stick to that shell. If it does, then it could only be a prototype.
    There were some anomalies made that were 10 lug with a silver keystone badge, I own one of them, but none were ever steel shelled drums.
    I like that powder coated finish.
    2019 Masterworks / Matte Black

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    2017 Masterworks Cocktail Kit / ES Comet Sparkle

    16x16 KD (verticle), 4x10 SD, 6x8 TT, 5x12 TT

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale w miller View Post
    I have mixed feelings on those lugs. In one way I like how original looking they are, but at the same time that look is the look of a handle.
    Yeah, I agree. They look like something I'd pick up at the local big box home improvement store to mount on a kitchen cabinet or drawer. But, if the owner likes them, that's really all that matters.

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    Hi,

    Here's a new snare drum I added to my Pearl Sensitone "custom" collection. This one has a 1.2mm chrome plated hammered steel shell. The Pearl hardware is the ARL-65 lugs with SR-150 strainer, along with Super Hoops and Ultracast 1420I snare wires.

    I love the sound of this drum because the large hammering pattern dries it out a bit more than other steel drums.


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    2019 Masterworks / Matte Black

    18x20 KD, 14x16 FT, 12x14 FT, 8x10 TT, 5x13 SD

    2017 Masterworks Cocktail Kit / ES Comet Sparkle

    16x16 KD (verticle), 4x10 SD, 6x8 TT, 5x12 TT

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    New Beastie Black Panther 14x6.5 Brass Sledgehammer What a beast of a snare.
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    Pearl Masters Premium Maple "Redline" in 12, 16, 22. Black on Black.
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    Last week I was killin' time surfing general listings on FB Marketplace and stumbled on a listing for a Ludwig Supraphonic I was not shopping for. I thought $200 was a cheap asking price and unlike Ebay it wouldn't go up. I clicked on the listing to see what was wrong with the drum and why they were only asking 2 bills.
    Long story short it ended up being a 1998 COB. Now the deal got borderline stupid. I quickly gave the seller the cash and was gone like a cool breeze!
    I replaced the P85 with a P88, installed new heads- UV1 batter and a snare side 300, replaced the bottom hoop, installed 20 strand Puresound Custom wires, and gave it a good cleaning. So glad I did this! Great sounding snare.


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    Great score Ron! Did you wear a mask? Sometimes deals like this are too good to pass up!
    Pearl Masters Premium Diamond Burst 6pc
    Pearl Masters Red Mahogany Classic 6pc
    14 x 6.5 Phosphor Bronze FF Snare + Red Wine Shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeld-the-wicked View Post
    Great score Ron! Did you wear a mask? Sometimes deals like this are too good to pass up!
    I'd have secured a "schmuck of the year" nomination for sure had I not pounced on it.
    Gave both heads some slight crankage this morning. O-M-G-! This drum is too sick!
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