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  1. Registered User

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    Btw, is there a big difference between phosphor bronze and copper when it comes to sound? Im not shure, but i have got the feeling that phosphor bronze replaced copper? Maybe at the same time gen3 was launched??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobbe99 View Post
    Btw, is there a big difference between phosphor bronze and copper when it comes to sound? Im not shure, but i have got the feeling that phosphor bronze replaced copper? Maybe at the same time gen3 was launched??
    Bronze is typically louder, with good clarity and articulation. Copper is a bit warmer and has a little more low end.
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    Here are pictures of my collection of Pearl Free Floating snare drums with genuine bell bronze replacement shells. All 4 sizes.

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    I have several free floaters, in different versions. A drummer on Facebook posted that he previously owned an 8 lug free floating snare. Does anyone know if such a drum was produced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MusicMan View Post
    Here are pictures of my collection of Pearl Free Floating snare drums with genuine bell bronze replacement shells. All 4 sizes.

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    So you are saying they are not Pearl Phosphor Bronze factory shells but with Pearl Badges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeld-the-wicked View Post
    So you are saying they are not Pearl Phosphor Bronze factory shells but with Pearl Badges?
    Thats the MM way! I've said it before and i'll say it again, I don't get the whole sticking pearl badges on non Pearl shells, masquerading as things they aren't. Just leave it unbadged or represent the company who made the shells. To me thats like saying i've got a fiat, but i've put a Ferrari badge on it, I just don't get it.
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    I don’t get it either.
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    ď Counterfeiting also includes merely affixing the trademark or logo of a well-known consumer brand to a product, even though it is not a direct copy.Ē

    Iíve had this discussion with MM before. I expressed that placing a Pearl badge implies that the shell was made by Pearl. He disagreed.

    What I canít understand is why Pearl allows him to violate their copyright and flaunt it on their forum. I know he buys a lot of high end Pearl stuff. Could it be that Pearl places profit before principle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RushDrums24 View Post
    Thats the MM way! I've said it before and i'll say it again, I don't get the whole sticking pearl badges on non Pearl shells, masquerading as things they aren't. Just leave it unbadged or represent the company who made the shells. To me thats like saying i've got a fiat, but i've put a Ferrari badge on it, I just don't get it.
    1. Major drum companies don't make their own metal shells . All they do is put their badge on shells they buy from Chinese manufacturers. Nobody expects the Chinese company to get credit for the "brand" of the drums because they make the shells for Pearl, Yamaha, Tama, Worldmax, etc.

    2. It's been a common practice since the Free Floating snares were introduced for people to use replacement shells. That's part of their appeal.

    3. The purpose of the Pearl badges on these drums is to support the Pearl brand and to give the drums a completely finished look (that also matches my Pearl kits). I've been playing Pearl drums for over 30 years and have always supported their brand exclusively. I would rather make unique gear to complement my own Pearl kits.
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    I think your drums look great MM. I completely understand going for the finished "Pearl" look and wanting to present it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG1820X View Post
    I think your drums look great MM. I completely understand going for the finished "Pearl" look and wanting to present it here.
    Thanks, I appreciate it.

    I'm proud to play Pearl drums and build these for my personal collection.

    Even if I eventually sold them, I would remove all of the high end Pearl hardware and put something else on the shells.
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    So, Majicdrum, who's been on here since 2010 but has only posted 6 times, had asked a question about 8-lug free floaters. I knew Gretsch had made their own version of the free floaters so I pointed that out. Then, a few days ago, I'm on Facebook when a guy posts a picture of a rare 14x10 (or 12) free floater with a Pearl shell.

    Could be the original maker of the free floater though... I forget what company Pearl took the design from, CB maybe? Anyway, I know pearl made free floating marching snares but I believe the strainer was attached to the shell and the chassis was at the top of the drum... this could be a modified version of that(?).
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