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  1. Registered User

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    Why do people hate the 1.6 mm hoops so much?

  2. Practicing...

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    because 2.3mm hoops keep the drums in tune much better than 1.6mm its just a matter of keeping the drum in tune and I'm pretty sure there is better resonance with 2.3mm than with 1.6mm

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    Not only that, but if you hit the rims with sticks, either on purpose (rimshot) or accident, they'll bend. 2.3s will bend, but you really have to abuse them first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickg
    Not only that, but if you hit the rims with sticks, either on purpose (rimshot) or accident, they'll bend. 2.3s will bend, but you really have to abuse them first.
    True, there are a couple dents in my forum hoops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickg
    Not only that, but if you hit the rims with sticks, either on purpose (rimshot) or accident, they'll bend. 2.3s will bend, but you really have to abuse them first.
    That, and the ISS system attaches to the hoop. With a soft and bending hoop such as the 1.6mm ones, it'll affect the tuning a lot when you hang it on the rack. With stiffer, thicker hoops this wouldn't be a problem.

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    i'm gonna go for the vission, haha, looks like a better deal




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    I really like the clear birch, black fade, and the electric blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akahito
    That, and the ISS system attaches to the hoop. With a soft and bending hoop such as the 1.6mm ones, it'll affect the tuning a lot when you hang it on the rack. With stiffer, thicker hoops this wouldn't be a problem.
    Hmmm...are there any drum sets in the same price range that have 2.3 mm hoops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Shub-Niggurath
    Hmmm...are there any drum sets in the same price range that have 2.3 mm hoops?
    Yeah - just about ANY other kit in that price range has at a minimum 2.3 hoops or even die cast hoops standard.

    I've always been surprised that Pearl hasn't changed that - it is in my opinion one of the worst aspects of the Export series drums.
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    I just got mine changed to 2.3mm hoops. I can't tell the difference yet with my 12" coz i dont have an optimount for it so its on a snare stand, but my 16" definitely sings alot more than it used to.
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    Now I'm starting to think I should go with a Mapex M-Birch for my next kit.

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    The Vision Series looks to have many advantages to it than the ECX and i really like the sound of birch too.

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