I would have to say Ludwig- they've been a standard in drums since way back in the day, and still today the Classic Maple line is one of the best sounding maple drums out there.
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I would have to say Ludwig- they've been a standard in drums since way back in the day, and still today the Classic Maple line is one of the best sounding maple drums out there.
I agree with you man. Everyone talks trash about them now because they make "Bonham" kits. But PEOPLE BUY THEM!!! They have ALWAYS made quality drums and continue to do so.
Premier.Gen-X kit sounds waaay better than the Reference.
Pearl. You guys don't see it because this is a Pearl forum, but Pearls are probably the most trash-talked, ignored brand among "drum afficianado's". They are one of the most popular brands in the world, but people "in the know" seem to think there's something wrong with them. I was in the same boat until I played a BRX. That kit changed my mind forever. If it wasent for my affinity for the Sonor company I'd go for Pearl in a second.
Dynamic percussion for me. I heard one of their kits the other day, and I was blown away. The birch sound of close to a brx, for the price of a sessions.
I think it depends where you are. Over here in the US it's probably Sonor or Premier. Ludwig doesn't get the attention they used to, but they had some REALLY bad years in the late 70s and into the 80s. Some awful, awful stuff when they were bought out.
[QUOTE=Bierce85] ....until I played a BRX. That kit changed my mind forever. /QUOTE]
i thought that.then i played a Tama Performer.then i realised that Pearl was over-rated 00**
Same here man, I talked my fair share of crap until I played a beauitful BRX, it sounded like it was already EQ'ed, it was amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bierce85
[QUOTE=bumhead]Yeah, I've owned both kits and the BRX completely blew the performer out of the water. The clarity is absolutely amazing, and they sing. Everyone that I let play them commented on how they were so fun to play, and multiple people actually said they "played themselves".Quote:
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As for Performers, I actually prefer them to SC maples having owned both, but still neither compares to BRX's IMO. The performers have a nice tone, and a nice punchy kick, but they can't match the clarity of the BRX's.
I dunno...I never really thought much of Yamaha, and in all actuallity forget about them from time to time...but I have heard some phenomenal sounding Yamaha drums.
epiarch
Sonor.
Mapex, Premier, Sonor, Taye.
Sonors really arent underrated. Whenever they're actually talked about you rarely hear anything but rave reviews. Some call them too pricey and/or overengineered, but that's about it.
what a tread idea !
erm id say preimer and ludwig ....
but because i hear so much trash about ocdp .... i vote them above ...
but please i dont wanna start a war over it ...
Phattie.
Premier and Taye for sure.
All custom companies use Keller shells. I really don't think one can be underrated, considering there are hundreds and hundreds of custom companies that no one has heard of.
They do not sound bad at all, I played an SJC before and the Keller shells sound fantastic. I'm just saying a custom company can't be underrated since they ALL use the same shells.
premeir, ludwig, and taye,
I'd say Taye and RMV. Both great drums for good prices..... but most new American drummers buy Pearl Exports when starting out. I'm sure it has a lot to do with what the stores are carrying. Lot's of parents aren't going to do any research when buying their kid a kit. They will go to the closest store to the house, and get the cheapest "big name" kit they can...... usually results in an Export kit, with ZBTs.
I don't know how many times I've played gigs, and I was setting up my BLX kit, with top of the line Zidjians, and the kid in the next band with the Export/ZBT combo says, HEY, WE HAVE THE SAME KIT! :mad:
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get facts right. they dont all use keller
Oh yeah, defin RMV wayyyy up there.
I think Sonor makes a great product. They'd not underrated, just a little more pricey and thus they don't do that well over here.
Premier is a good company too, but I can't stand their hardware which pulled that one on the list.
Sonor
Ludwig - Premier - Mapex - Taye !
Ludwig maple snare sound absolutely awesome - Premier Bass drum sound are amazing - any Mapex series are good - TAYE studiomaple shell are greatly done and sound thunderous...
I would argue with you.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Powder Monkey
but you have a great song in your signature.
Frizzle Fry is one of my favorite Primus albums.
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Originally Posted by steviethunders
I believe that some of the bigger custom companys (like DW, Pearl Masterworks, Sonor SQ2, Gretsch Maple Custom ((I think thats what its called)) etc) manufacture their own shells.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Faustus
Someone rep this kid and Ill rep you :o, I cant rep him anymore, but hes definately right, RMV is sooo underated.
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cheers man, love all primus and claypool. but you cant argue anyway
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I have to agree with you to an extent. I met & talked with Bobby Blotzer (RATT) while he was here in Austin during the NAMM convention. Being a drummer,I thought I'd talk to him since we had that in common. I told him I was a Pearl man. Almost immediately he bashed Pearl saying they made crap for a product. He was,is & always will be a Yamaha man. Being that he's 20 years my senior,I wasn't in a position to argue with a man whose played drums & toured the world for about as long as I've been breathing. Plus he was quite inebriated,lol. But that was just unexpected since it seems that every drummer out of that era played Pearl. And I was slightly disappointed that he would put them down the way he did. He was a nice guy until it came to talking about that,lol.
I guess I would have to say Ludwig. I don't see any problem with releasing the "Bonham" kits. To some,it may look like an easy cash-in since he's EVERYBODY'S drum god & Ludwig may seem to take credit for his success. But again,people are buying them. I would too...
Rep me.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joey_jordison1
He was commenting on me saying RMV. Now where's my rep. LOL
I think the Blotz used to play TAMA. At least he did when the EP and their first album came out. I have video of him playing a red Tama with ebony resos. Maybe I'm wrong.... it's been 22 years or so, so cut me some slack if I am. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rsdrummer
Mapex and Premier
Mapex is starting to come up now. I remember when I started I thought Mapex was horrible because of their logo. But I was 13!Quote:
Originally Posted by SMX_Dizzy
It really depends on the location. RMVs and Oderys are overrated in Brazil. Intermediate kits are underrated (because of the shells most times) in any imported brand around here.
I remember when I was young there was a Mars Music that had all Mapex kits. I didn't really like them and I thought they were too expensive.Quote:
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Now I like them.
RMV and Taye.
premier is definatly the most under rated i think
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:rolleyes:
Udrum does their own shell, same as Luka percussion, joshua tree percussion, monolith drums, Odery, lignum drums, FVF and many more. Even some use Eames or highwood shell...
Not ALL custom drum companies use keller. Get your facts right before posting. You should have used the term "most" custom drums companies use keller...
I would say Mapex, RMV, Gretsch and Gibraltar's hardware.
rmv
premier... not many big name drummers have been using them lately...
also taye gets a bad rap because of thier prices...and alot of people think they are a strictly beginner company