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  • Custom Z / CZX Lacquer

    I recently picked up a Custom Z set (18x22, 12x12, 13x13, 16x16). I couldn't pass it up because of the figuring in the wood, the Birdseye maples, was so stunning. I bought it, knowing it had some issues. One of the issues was that it only had one Birdseye bass drum hoop, with a metal hoop replacing the missing one. I ordered a pair of Birdseye hoops from Stellar Wood hoops as they were the ONLY place I could find Birdseye hoops. Receiving the hoops yesterday, I pulled them out and immediately noticed they weren't lacquered. They do a good job matching the figuring (grain pattern) of the shells, but of course don't match in appearance. So now, I have to figure out how to lacquer these hoops, to not only match the shells but protect the hoops themselves.

    So the question is, how would you go about trying to lacquer these hoops? I have no real experience in lacquering wood like this, so I'm really at a loss. My FEELING is to put on multiple layers, with a good high grit sanding in between each coat. I want to truly be able to protect them, hence the multiple layers. Which lacquer would work? Is there a lacquer that would "match" the Champagne lacquer of the Custom Z/CSX line? Am I on the right tack with multiple coats? Brush, Roll or Spray? It's NOT a rush project, as I have other stuff to work on such as cleaning up the hardware etc., so I can take my time and do this right.

    Any help you guys can provide would be appreciated.
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  • #2
    the light sanding-multiple layers approach is exactly how pros are doin it....myself i've refinished an old ludwig set
    (removed the paint, then sanded the wood till i got a silky surface ) for the sake of the experience i'd get ,and it's been a success....i even did it using a electric sander which i would n't use on such a nice instrument like your new catch.....the electric sander may be a time saver, but a mistake happens so fast ( you don't want to '''burn''' the wood) , there's no turning back,so by hand would be my choice. just get the best laquer-sealer money can buy,and then perform as many layers as possible...it is no rocket science, patience is your best friend.


    edit: and yeah..pfffffft...the grain pattern is beautyfull....rarely seen a so perfect pattern drums to drums. it looks so perfect ,it's close to a faux computer made like the pearl moka tamo.....great,great catch.
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    • #3
      Yep, multiple layers is the way to go.
      Put at least 2, maybe 3 layers on before the first sanding.
      Wet sand them with say 400 grit wet and dry sandpaper.
      As you apply more coats, sand before the next. When you start to get to the last few coats, go higher in the grit count, say 800 grit.
      The final sand should be before the last coat, with say 1200 grit.

      Brush or spray?
      Up to you. Brush is simplest, but spray will get a better result.
      Whatever you choose, many light coats is way better than a smaller number of thick coats, as that may cause runs, which will mean sand it all off and start again....
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      • #4
        Do you have pictures of the hoops?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by dale w miller View Post
          Do you have pictures of the hoops?
          Why attach pix? lol
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          • #6
            I would suggest taking the hoop(s) to a furniture refinishing business in your area. getting a good quality lacquer job is a lot of work and sometimes does get the finish you are looking for...HOWEVER...if you are going to do it yourself go with the process that 3Pearlkits suggested and I would agree that a spray finish will yield much better results...the key will be the wet sanding!
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            • #7
              A word to the wise - be VERY careful removing the hardware from this kit. My advice would be don't. It's very prone to breaking where the screws hold it to the shell, and once that happens it'll junk. You'll end up replacing the entire kit with Masters CL lugs, which whilst they'll fit, won't look anywhere near as good (some prefer the individual lugs rather then dual lug design, but chances are the lacquer will have changed colour over the years with sunlight so you'll have non-faded sections where the old lug middles were)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by oldbatterhead View Post
                I would suggest taking the hoop(s) to a furniture refinishing business in your area. getting a good quality lacquer job is a lot of work and sometimes does get the finish you are looking for...HOWEVER...if you are going to do it yourself go with the process that 3Pearlkits suggested and I would agree that a spray finish will yield much better results...the key will be the wet sanding!
                I agree.
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                • #9
                  Do not try to brush lacquer. One of its properties is that lacquer can be reactivated. It will get sticky and create a mess...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by latzanimal View Post
                    Do not try to brush lacquer. One of its properties is that lacquer can be reactivated. It will get sticky and create a mess...
                    Huh?
                    This has never happened to me. What circumstances lead to that happening for you?
                    Tin or spray can, it's the same lacquer...
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                    • #11
                      it is a very straightforward process. buff,laquer,dry,buff. laquer,dry,buff....as much layer as possible.the more you buff multiple layers , the more the finish is durable and brillant.

                      as for applying the laquer with a gun......hmmmm...you need the correct set up,otherwise, you''ll end up with an orange skin kind of surface finish. the result would be more previsible with a large brush
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