Help with a UK? Snare...

[ed68bogus]

Can anybody help shed some light on this unbranded snare. I'm assuming British as I found it here in the UK with a box full of hardware and cymbals (pics to follow) including bd pedal, and one of the large bass drum reso dampers.

All original including both heads and the tube lugs and hoops both fail the magnet test.

The finish is a duco? faux bmp.

Any info gratefully received as usual.

[nik12]

I've got nothing, but that's a pretty sweet find.

[BadAstronaut]

no clue ... on a side note those snare wires are THICK .. geeez

[mrjoshfryer]

Looks German because of it's tension rods.

[mrjoshfryer]

Can anybody help shed some light on this unbranded snare. I'm assuming British as I found it here in the UK with a box full of hardware and cymbals (pics to follow) including bd pedal, and one of the large bass drum reso dampers. All original including both heads and the tube lugs and hoops both fail the magnet test. The finish is a duco? faux bmp. Any info gratefully received as usual.

If you ever need new snare wires you can use guitar strings. Those are thick!

[nik12]

If you ever need new snare wires you can use guitar strings. Those are thick!

...or just source some gut wires...

...or just use regular snare wires with a cord attachment...

[BadAstronaut]

If you ever need new snare wires you can use guitar strings.

I'd say at least a 56 gauge low E string .. haha

[mrjoshfryer]

I'd say at least a 56 gauge low E string .. haha

That's what I was thinking.

[ed68bogus]

What's in the box?

[nik12]

Wow. That is proper collector's gear there.

[beermaniac]

I know i've seen that snare somewhere in vintagedrumforum! I'd sugest looking there

[ed68bogus]

I know i've seen that snare somewhere in vintagedrumforum! I'd sugest looking there

If this is the post you mean I've already read top to bottom. As it seems to never got resolved I added this on to see if it stirs any interest.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...51616#poststop

[3pearlkits]

A number of companies used slotted head tension rods.

I'd be inclined to use the vintage drum guide to identify English brands, then have a good search in all the catalogues at drumarchive:
http://www.drumarchive.com/

ps there's som Asba info there as well...

[Healthie]

oh man that is an awesome find! is a lot of the hardware primitive dampeners? it looks like primitive hardware dampeners.

[ed68bogus]

So it turns out to be a Carlton snare as found in the Carlton 1935/36 catalogue. The hardware is from the Console and trap fixings and includes the original cowbell, woodblock, triangle and kitchen sink. Some of these fixings I am still to figure out as they look more like instruments of torture.

The NOB bass drum pedal is all complete and works like a dream although in need of a good clean up an grease.

The snare itself is all original including stand and is either "Silver Butterfly Wing" or "Black Pearl" as listed in the catalogue.

There's also a couple of intriguing cymbals including one hand hammered that at approx. 8" has more power than my 1980 Paiste 20" ride.

Sweet, sweet find...