Help with a UK? Snare...

[wilo79]

So it turns out to be a Carlton snare as found in the Carlton 1935/36 catalogue. The hardware is from the Console and trap fixings and includes the original cowbell, woodblock, triangle and kitchen sink. Some of these fixings I am still to figure out as they look more like instruments of torture. The NOB bass drum pedal is all complete and works like a dream although in need of a good clean up an grease. The snare itself is all original including stand and is either "Silver Butterfly Wing" or "Black Pearl" as listed in the catalogue. There's also a couple of intriguing cymbals including one hand hammered that at approx. 8" has more power than my 1980 Paiste 20" ride. Sweet, sweet find...

The instruments of torture will probably be sound effects stuff from back in the day when drummers used to be the special effects guy in cinemas an theatres.

[ed68bogus]

Vellums rejuvenated and 3 point strainer welded where it had snapped and finally all complete.

Working on the stand now....

[fayray]

nice work. It looks great

[3pearlkits]

Leave the vellum as is.
Water/dampness will stretch it initially, and then when it dries/shrinks, it will toughen...

[ed68bogus]

I would have thought that the BMP finish was an acetate wrap if the drum is from the 1930's. That would be immediately evident with a seam or overlap of any description.

Although there is a seam/overlap but it is definitely a paint job, the paint was quite flakey and was peeling in places revealing an additional layer of veneer (I think?). Would really liked to have left it untreated but it wouldn't have fared to well.

[ed68bogus]

First time back together, still got to do the snare release. Any suggestions on cleaning/replenishing vellums?

[3pearlkits]

The clamps weren't as aggressive as appears and no damage was done, though I'm grateful for the pointers and always learning.

The BMP is a kind of Duco paint job so I've cleaned and lacquered to revive and protect it.

I use Linseed oil for the interior, not totally sure what Tung Oil is, but am guessing its similar..

I would have thought that the BMP finish was an acetate wrap if the drum is from the 1930's. That would be immediately evident with a seam or overlap of any description.

Tung oil is a little lighter than Linseed oil, but near enough

[ed68bogus]

The clamps weren't as aggressive as appears and no damage was done, though I'm grateful for the pointers and always learning.

The BMP is a kind of Duco paint job so I've cleaned and lacquered to revive and protect it.

I use Linseed oil for the interior, not totally sure what Tung Oil is, but am guessing its similar..

[beermaniac]

If this is the post you mean I've already read top to bottom. As it seems to never got resolved I added this on to see if it stirs any interest.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...51616#poststop

No, that's not the one. I've seen one that's exactly like this one. Maybe it's even the same drum, but i can't find the post, sorry. but it looks like this has already been resolved

Ummm, use a block of wood next time, so the clamps don't clamp down on the wrap.
That wrap can't be replaced with the genuine article!

What are you lacquering? The inside?
Consider giving it a coat of tung oil instead, to give the ply a "drink".

My thoughts exactly... It hurt a little when i saw those clamps pressing directly on to the shell

[3pearlkits]

Ummm, use a block of wood next time, so the clamps don't clamp down on the wrap.
That wrap can't be replaced with the genuine article!

What are you lacquering? The inside?
Consider giving it a coat of tung oil instead, to give the ply a "drink".

[ed68bogus]

The reinforcements had come away at the ends so I had to reglue. Three hot, soapy washes and she's ready to be touched up and lacquered.

[ed68bogus]

ps there's som Asba info there as well...

You know me to well....

[ed68bogus]

So it turns out to be a Carlton snare as found in the Carlton 1935/36 catalogue. The hardware is from the Console and trap fixings and includes the original cowbell, woodblock, triangle and kitchen sink. Some of these fixings I am still to figure out as they look more like instruments of torture.

The NOB bass drum pedal is all complete and works like a dream although in need of a good clean up an grease.

The snare itself is all original including stand and is either "Silver Butterfly Wing" or "Black Pearl" as listed in the catalogue.

There's also a couple of intriguing cymbals including one hand hammered that at approx. 8" has more power than my 1980 Paiste 20" ride.

Sweet, sweet find...

[Healthie]

oh man that is an awesome find! is a lot of the hardware primitive dampeners? it looks like primitive hardware dampeners.

[3pearlkits]

A number of companies used slotted head tension rods.

I'd be inclined to use the vintage drum guide to identify English brands, then have a good search in all the catalogues at drumarchive:
http://www.drumarchive.com/

ps there's som Asba info there as well...