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  • Free Floating strainer shorn off - fix?

    Hello lovely people,

    Please see the pics - my strainer has come clean off the rim!
    I'd be really grateful for ya'll expertise on what my options are here.
    From the research i've done, people replace strainers either using existing drill holes or by creating a holding plate which may or may not require new drill holes.
    But obviously on this particular snare drum the strainer is (was) attached directly to the rim anyway. No kind of adhesive would hold the tension would it? Or i could weld it back on?

    Also for info if it'll cost me more than £150 I don't think i'd be able to do it.

    Thank you very much.
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    I think the only option here is to replace the Aluminium ring (https://www.thomann.de/gb/pearl_arc_...ng_chassis.htm) Only thing to be warned of is that yours is the 2nd Gen FF and the spare hoop i've linked is for the current one so I couldn't say for sure that the strainer hole pattern would be the same. And I've heard its a bit of a job to get the lugs out of the broken ring and then into the new one.
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    • #3
      There's really not a fix for that other than replacement of the basket, as RushDrums24 says. Even something like chemical metal probably won't hold it under the tension it's subjected to. Not the first one I've seen like that.
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      • #4
        Thanks so much guys, really appreciate it - especially the thomann link.

        I'll contact thomann to ask if they can answer the hole compatibility question.
        But after a little research - isn't my drum the first gen rather than second? Mine has hexagonal lugs.

        Assuming compatibility with new basket, it seems straightforward for me to fix.
        But in case i need further help, can you suggest any drum repairers around london?
        Or otherwise I may sell it in ir's current state for someone else to fix (i could probably get £100 for it?)

        Thanks again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JT-Drums View Post
          Thanks so much guys, really appreciate it - especially the thomann link.

          I'll contact thomann to ask if they can answer the hole compatibility question.
          But after a little research - isn't my drum the first gen rather than second? Mine has hexagonal lugs.

          Assuming compatibility with new basket, it seems straightforward for me to fix.
          But in case i need further help, can you suggest any drum repairers around london?
          Or otherwise I may sell it in ir's current state for someone else to fix (i could probably get £100 for it?)

          Thanks again.
          Its in-between gens I think, first gen lugs but not with the lever throw off with rollers and extended wires. As far as restorers go, Richard Newby is near London or my go to guy is Mark Haynes at The Drum Bunker in Leicester. He's done many a snare for me and all have been tip top. Just post the drum to him and he'll post it back when completed.
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          • #6
            Ouch! I've owned both first and second-gen FFS snares. My first gen drum had those 1-piece cast lugs but was the steel shell and the older-style strainer. Sold it a long time ago but regret it - it was one of the best sounding steel shell snares I've ever heard.

            If you love that snare, your best bet is likely to find a good used one on eBay, Reverb, or locally in the used market. It would be nearly impossible to re-attach that strainer to that cast aluminum chassis so that it will hold and last. The good news is that your lugs will spin out rather easily. For my first gen drum I had bought some of the short lugs to be able to swap between 6.5" deep shell and the trendy-at-the-time 3.5" deep shell, so I know first hand that swapping out the lugs is easy. As long as the lugs on the snare you buy are the same one-piece cast lugs as yours, you can pretty much get any depth of FFS snare. All the cast-aluminum FFS chassis of that era are the same (as far as I know).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1ordinary-guy View Post
              Ouch! I've owned both first and second-gen FFS snares. My first gen drum had those 1-piece cast lugs but was the steel shell and the older-style strainer. Sold it a long time ago but regret it - it was one of the best sounding steel shell snares I've ever heard.

              If you love that snare, your best bet is likely to find a good used one on eBay, Reverb, or locally in the used market. It would be nearly impossible to re-attach that strainer to that cast aluminum chassis so that it will hold and last. The good news is that your lugs will spin out rather easily. For my first gen drum I had bought some of the short lugs to be able to swap between 6.5" deep shell and the trendy-at-the-time 3.5" deep shell, so I know first hand that swapping out the lugs is easy. As long as the lugs on the snare you buy are the same one-piece cast lugs as yours, you can pretty much get any depth of FFS snare. All the cast-aluminum FFS chassis of that era are the same (as far as I know).
              Thanks for your reply. Yes - no way i'm reattaching to the sheered off chasis

              I have more questions on this though...
              A drumshop contacted pearl for me and pearl said that a new Chasis (Thomann sell them for example) would not be compatible with my 1st gen drum due to changes of spacing of lug hols and the strainer holes. Can anyone confirm that?
              Assuming it's right, I'm wondering what the liklihood is on this forum or elsewhere that may have an original first gen chassis spare part for sale? Havn't found one on google...

              The other option as you say is to buy a whole first gen drum, then i have two shells to interchange. You seem enthusiastic of your experience, but i'm envisioning I would rarely bother with the hassle of swapping them over (is it just the top rim and lugs you need to remove or bottom chasis too?)

              Finally, I'm open to passing on this drum as it is for someone else to take on, and me buying a different drum altogether. Again, is there a place in this forum to advertise that?

              Thanks again for all help

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              • #8
                It’s no good as a snare so you can use it as a Tom of some sort. Unless it had sentimental value (kiss it goodbye)

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                • #9
                  You could sell the parts on ebay or be patient and wait ‘till a 1st gen chassis pops up. I’ve seen them come up for auction time to time.

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