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  • Early 60s Ludwig Jazz Festival snare restoration project

    I posted a thread a few days ago to help me identify this drum I found. Based on the helpful answers I got and my own research, the drum is a Ludwig Jazz Festival snare drum produced between 1960-1963. It was pretty grungy when I found it and the original blue sparkle wrap was covered in some sort of black vinyl. I am in the process of cleaning and restoring this drum to its former glory! I'm having a lot of fun with this project and I'll post pics as I go along. Here are the pictures of the drum as I found it.

    Completed project pictures on page 3!! Plus before and after pics.

    This drum has a 5.5" deep shell while the Jazz Festival is listed with a 5" shell but according to the vintage drum guide there were some early Jazz Festivals produced with older 5.5" shells the factory was using up. I still can't figure out why there are extra holes under the strainer but perhaps it will remain a mystery.
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    Last edited by livingstone; 02-12-2013, 04:51 PM.
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    Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
    Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
    Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
    Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

  • #2
    I had a feeling that was going to be a transitional badge JF with a replacement P-85 strainer!
    Keep your eyes out for a P-83, they're tons smoother and will make the drum really look authentic.
    *edit* Just checked your old thread and it's not a trans badge, but a pre-serial, so it's a '60-62.

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    • #3
      Here's a link to my original discovery thread for this snare...

      http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/sh...asure-or-trash
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      Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
      Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
      Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
      Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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      • #4
        Here are some photos of the shell with the hardware removed, then the bare shell after removing the black vinyl.
        Attached Files
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        Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
        Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
        Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
        Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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        • #5
          Here are a few more with the old vinyl beside the drum for reference. Also a pic of the butt plate.
          Attached Files
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          Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
          Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
          Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
          Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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          • #6
            looks good so far!
            I'm using my Christmas avatar until they are the correct size.

            "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."- Calvin (Bill Watterson)

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            • #7
              btw, did you see this on ebay? gives you some ideas ....

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972...item1c2610a164

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chilledbongo View Post
                btw, did you see this on ebay? gives you some ideas ....

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972...item1c2610a164

                Yeah I have seen that one. Most of these drums that I have found are selling in the $400 to $600 range. I'm pretty stoked! It's cleaning up really nicely.
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                Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
                Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
                Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
                Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by livingstone View Post
                  Yeah I have seen that one. Most of these drums that I have found are selling in the $400 to $600 range. I'm pretty stoked! It's cleaning up really nicely.
                  Indeed, if you get this baby shined up and add some nice Pearl or Puresound wires, you'll certainly have a $500 drum. You can use Brasso and some 0000 steel wool to clean up the metal hardware, and you can grab a Ludwig grommet for $3 on eBay if you want to fasten the Keystone back on a little better. It's easy to make a grommet installation tool with about $1.50 worth of parts from a hardware store. From the look of the hardware, it's the perfect kind of wear- calcium buildup and smudging. Easy to remove and return the drum to near-mint condition. If the edge where the wrap ends and the bearing edge begins is rough, you can get a medium grit sanding sponge and smooth out the transition by setting the shell on the floor and moving along the edge in a circular motion.
                  www.revivaldrumshop.com

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                  • #10
                    In the other thread you said that it has 2 extra holes. Where are they? The P-85 and P-83 are direct replacments so no new holes should have been drilled to swap the strainer. If you have extra holes you will drop the value by at least $100. I 've been collecting and restoring Ludwig drums for many years. The tension rods are not really a big deal to a collector neither are the washers. As long as they match and are not rusty. The Jazz Fest drums on Ebay that are LISTED for $600+ are from Lee County Music. Their parts and drums are REALLY overpriced and rarely sell for those prices. Average nice jazz fest will bring $400 to $450. I clean chome with 0000 steel wool ( make sure it is 0000 and nothing else!) and chrome polish. Novus Plastic polish is best for cleaing and polishing wrap. You can get it on ebay for 7 bucks. Your wrap will look like new. Good luck.

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                    • #11
                      Was going to suggest you check out Vintage Drum Forum...but I see you already found it!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Drumbum675 View Post
                        In the other thread you said that it has 2 extra holes. Where are they? The P-85 and P-83 are direct replacments so no new holes should have been drilled to swap the strainer. If you have extra holes you will drop the value by at least $100. I 've been collecting and restoring Ludwig drums for many years. The tension rods are not really a big deal to a collector neither are the washers. As long as they match and are not rusty. The Jazz Fest drums on Ebay that are LISTED for $600+ are from Lee County Music. Their parts and drums are REALLY overpriced and rarely sell for those prices. Average nice jazz fest will bring $400 to $450. I clean chome with 0000 steel wool ( make sure it is 0000 and nothing else!) and chrome polish. Novus Plastic polish is best for cleaing and polishing wrap. You can get it on ebay for 7 bucks. Your wrap will look like new. Good luck.
                        Hmm, that's interesting about the holes. I just assumed that they would have been drilled to swap the strainer. There is a narrower set of holes between the outer set of holes that currently fit the P-85. I'll attach a couple pics. You can't see it too well in the picture but there is an impression in the wrap around the inside holes, so something definitely was there.
                        Attached Files
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                        Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
                        Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
                        Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
                        Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Drumbum675 View Post
                          Was going to suggest you check out Vintage Drum Forum...but I see you already found it!
                          I did find it! I've learned a lot of useful tips over there.

                          Here are some pictures of hardware cleaning. It was really interesting taking the lugs apart. I'm learning quite a bit about drums through this project.
                          Attached Files
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                          Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
                          Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
                          Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
                          Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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                          • #14
                            Tension rods before and after cleaning...
                            Attached Files
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                            Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
                            Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
                            Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
                            Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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                            • #15
                              The shell all cleaned and polished up...
                              Attached Files
                              ----------------------------------------------
                              Pearl SMX Marine Blue Fade (outdoor pictures)
                              Pearl Limited Edition Burl Mahogany Snare
                              Vintage 60s Ludwig snare restoration
                              Sabian cymbals and Vic Firth sticks

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