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    Simple question. Does a birch session sound just like a masters? I know they have the same wood quality. So what seperates session from masters are lugs, paint, and overall hardware? Im just looking for sound.
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  • #2
    Sound is the same. The diiferences are just like what you have mentioned, the color, hardware, lugs, etc

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    • #3
      The hoops make a slight difference in sound.

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      • #4
        I read somewhere else on this forum that there is an increase of 10% in sound qualities, decide for yourself if its worth spending extra for a relatively small increase
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        • #5
          I have heard that they use different quality wood.

          Masters use Grade A on the outside with Grade B in the inside.

          Sessions use Grade B on the outside with Grade C in the inside.

          This is probably for some cosmetic purposes, and so I'm sure that they sound very similar.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by craig
            I have heard that they use different quality wood.

            Masters use Grade A on the outside with Grade B in the inside.

            Sessions use Grade B on the outside with Grade C in the inside.

            This is probably for some cosmetic purposes, and so I'm sure that they sound very similar.
            i think that they use grades A and B on masters like you said but they use grade B all the through on the sessions, thats what i heard anyways.

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            • #7
              I don't think there is such thing is Grade C wood. You can buy diecast/mastercast hoops for sessions anyways.

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              • #8
                Is that the same with the SMX series, also?


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                • #9
                  id think that the diecasts on the masters would kill more of the overtones and make the toms feel just alittle firmer in the middle of the head when you play them. that's all i can think of.

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                  • #10
                    So, the overal sound of a birch session is about 10% less than a birch masters?
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                    • #11
                      This was listed by Gene Okamoto recently within the Session vs. Masters topic.
                      An SBX vs. BRX will have a very similar sound IMO. But the ISS and triple flanged hoops on the Sesion will make a difference. I can't speak from experience on the differences in sound, but there will be a difference.
                      This list talks about only the Maple side of things, but I would think everything is the same for birch. Perphaps some of Gene's list will help:


                      Wood
                      100% maple, the same quality maple is used on SMX/MMX/MRX/MSX.

                      Cosmetics of the wood
                      The inside ply of the MMX/MRX is used on the outside ply of the SMX.
                      The middle ply of the MMX/MRX is used on the middle and inside plies of the SMX.

                      Outside finishing
                      SMX uses a quick-dry ultraviolet curing system. Masters uses polyurethane and requires 7 days and 31 steps to complete.

                      Shell color choices
                      Unique colors for each series.

                      Hardware color choices
                      SMX = chrome plated only.
                      Masters = chrome plated, black chrome plated, gold plated, or satin chrome plated.

                      Bass drum lugs
                      SMX = 8 lugs (22” bass drums)
                      Masters = 10 lugs (22” bass drums)

                      Bass bracket
                      SMX = BB-3 mounted on the drum.
                      Masters = choice of with or without BB-3.

                      Hoops
                      SMX = SuperHoop II.
                      Masters = MasterCast.

                      Tom Heads
                      SMX = ProTone 2-ply batters and ProTone clear resonators.
                      Masters = Remo clear Ambassador, top and bottom.

                      Bass Heads
                      SMX = ProTone P3-type
                      Masters = Remo P3.

                      Tom mounting system
                      OptiMount on SMX and Masters.

                      Tension rods
                      SMX = steel.
                      Masters = stainless steel.

                      Lugs
                      SMX = Session bridge-style.
                      Masters = Masters bridge-style.

                      Lug gaskets
                      Molded rubber is used on SMX and Masters.

                      Tom arms
                      SMX = TH-1000I.
                      Masters = TH-2000I (recommended)

                      Floor tom legs
                      Identical

                      BD spurs
                      Identical
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                      • #12
                        ^Sessions have Optimounts like the Masters.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SPAMburger
                          ^Sessions have Optimounts like the Masters.
                          yer thats what i was thinking!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drumgood319
                            i think that they use grades A and B on masters like you said but they use grade B all the through on the sessions, thats what i heard anyways.
                            This is true, but the differences between grade "A" and "B" are only cosmetic, they offer the same sonic qualities.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pearl-drum-man
                              This is true, but the differences between grade "A" and "B" are only cosmetic, they offer the same sonic qualities.
                              yeah that's what I was thinking too. And it's not like the Session laquer finish isn't nice

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