Hybrid Bearing Edges

[Drummer764]

Hello everyone!

I am about to order a Pearl Masterworks snare, and wanted it to have a hybrid bearing edge (fully rounded top, 45° bottom), but my rep said, hybrid bearing edges would be something DW had patented and they wouldn't be doing anymore.
Is that actually true?
If so, how would other companies (Sonor Gavin Harrison snare, Craviotto, Yamaha, Tama etc.) be able to do still make them?
Even Troy Wrights Masterworks snare has that bearing edge combination, and I assume he ordered it around 2019.

So maybe something changed afterwards?

I DID find a patent of DW on bearing edges, but that one seems much more like a patent on a specific kind of hybrid bearing edge:
If you look here:
http://www.dwdrums.com/info/legal.asp

and then look up the patent number, this is what shows up:
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...F6%2C525%2C250

Maybe someone knows more about this and can help me out.

Thanks in advance!

[Drummer764]

Thank you for your reply.
Of course the bearing edges themselves are all something Pearl offers, I am more talking about having different edges for top and bottom (fully rounded top, 45° bottom).

[czx]

Thank you for your reply.
Of course the bearing edges themselves are all something Pearl offers, I am more talking about having different edges for top and bottom (fully rounded top, 45° bottom).

Ask Employee Al Percival : https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/m...98-AL-PERCIVAL

[AL PERCIVAL]

Ask Employee Al Percival : https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/m...98-AL-PERCIVAL

According to our Masterworks specialist Tom Storch, yes, this hybrid edge request can be done. I believe we did this for Dennis Chambers on one of his kits.

[Drummer764]

Alright, thank you so much for clarifying, Al!
I was already wondering, because I also saw that Troy Wrights recent Masterworks kit came with the same bearing edges.
And really cool to get some insight into Dennis Chambers kit as well, he's a legend!
So one thing less to worry about

[Drummer764]

And while I am at it, and don't want to bother my rep with even more questions, I hope you can answer that:
I want to to get a 14x6 snare drum, but also would like to have the STL lugs that are connected, like this:



This is indeed a 14x6 snare drum, but in the spare parts catalogue I haven't seen a mention of STL-60 lugs, as they would probably be called then.
Also, the new Matt Halpern snare just has the regular STL-55 lugs:



So I just need a clarification, if the lugs like on the first drum can be done for me as well.

Thanks in advance

[czx]

And while I am at it, and don't want to bother my rep with even more questions

How can you continue to use a "Rep" like that.... that doesn't even know the facts.. ??

[Drummer764]

Well, with hindsight my wording seemed a bit wrong...
What I meant was just because it's late at night, I could get help from you guys from America, so I can just send him my finished order form tomorrow.
I don't want to tell his name, but he is a very nice and helpful guy.
I think it was likely just a misunderstanding from him about DWs patent.
But either way, I appreciate you all helping me out on this forum

[czx]

Well, with hindsight my wording seemed a bit wrong...
What I meant was just because it's late at night, I could get help from you guys from America, so I can just send him my finished order form tomorrow.
I don't want to tell his name, but he is a very nice and helpful guy.
I think it was likely just a misunderstanding from him about DWs patent.
But either way, I appreciate you all helping me out on this forum

yeah that's cool.. but my point is.. you have a choice of many people to deal with..

and more importantly..... why does this guy even have this in his head??...... why did he even go there??

[Drummer764]

Who knows...
like I said, maybe he read that DW patent and thought it meant nobody else can do hybrid bearing edges anymore?
I have no idea honestly how it's actually made sure for all kinds of companies to keep up with the latest patents in regards to what they are doing.

[AL PERCIVAL]

And while I am at it, and don't want to bother my rep with even more questions, I hope you can answer that:
I want to to get a 14x6 snare drum, but also would like to have the STL lugs that are connected, like this:

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This is indeed a 14x6 snare drum, but in the spare parts catalogue I haven't seen a mention of STL-60 lugs, as they would probably be called then.
Also, the new Matt Halpern snare just has the regular STL-55 lugs:

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So I just need a clarification, if the lugs like on the first drum can be done for me as well.

Thanks in advance

On the first drum Masterworks Urban. In the pic, the lugs look to be STL55L/B swivel tube lugs for 5.5 and deeper snares.

[Drummer764]

Thank you Al for the help!
Maybe this will also help other people who are looking for those lugs on 6" deep snares.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Thank you Al for the help!
Maybe this will also help other people who are looking for those lugs on 6" deep snares.

My pleasure!

[AL PERCIVAL]

Ask Employee Al Percival : https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/m...98-AL-PERCIVAL

BTW CZX do these hoops look familiar?

[czx]

BTW CZX do these hoops look familiar?

Of course..... Did you pull that from a CZX or a Custom Z ?? ..... and Pearl should of finished those edges IMO... at least the same hue