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  • Suspension mounts.

    Got a simple question for you all...

    I'm considering changing out the mounts on my Decade Maple kit. I like the new Optilocs, but I feel like the section that you screw into the shell might be choking the resonance out of it. I've been looking at some aftermarket mounting systems to see if I could possibly coax a little extra ring out of them, but I was wondering what everyone's favorite system is and which ones seem to allow for the most resonance? (Yes, I actually covet the ring. I have no intention of covering the heads in tape and Moon Gel to "control" it)

    There are plenty of blank RIMS I could get that would let me attach the actual Pearl mount to the mounting plate so I wouldn't have to get new tom arms, although that option's not completely out of the question.

    Just looking for opinions and a lively (friendly) debate
    Last edited by The_Prowler; 02-13-2019, 04:50 PM.
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    Aluminum Optis....I'm replacing the standard Optimounts on my Session kit with them once I get a little extra $$$. No real reason other than aesthetics at this point...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jonah Hex View Post
      Aluminum Optis....I'm replacing the standard Optimounts on my Session kit with them once I get a little extra $$$. No real reason other than aesthetics at this point...
      I would love to have those, but $200 for a pair is unfortunately a bit steep for me. This is going to be something I'll have to save for regardless of price.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by The_Prowler View Post
        I would love to have those, but $200 for a pair is unfortunately a bit steep for me. This is going to be something I'll have to save for regardless of price.
        Yeah they *are* kinda spendy I agree (that's why I'm waiting myself because I need three) - if visibility isn't a concern get the regular optis....they're a little cheaper....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The_Prowler View Post
          Got a simple question for you all...

          I'm considering changing out the mounts on my Decade Maple kit. I like the new Optilocs, but I feel like the section that you screw into the shell might be choking the resonance out of it. I've been looking at some aftermarket mounting systems to see if I could possibly coax a little extra ring out of them, but I was wondering what everyone's favorite system is and which ones seem to allow for the most resonance? (Yes, I actually covet the ring. I have no intention of covering the heads in tape and Moon Gel to "control" it)

          There are plenty of blank RIMS I could get that would let me attach the actual Pearl mount to the mounting plate so I wouldn't have to get new tom arms, although that option's not completely out of the question.

          Just looking for opinions and a lively (friendly) debate
          You asked for opinions, so here's my 2 cents. I wouldn't put more money into a Pearl Decade Maple kit, for a couple reasons. I've been down that road in the past... trying to upgrade drums via hardware upgrades. The problem is, it's a waste of money. Drum hardware parts tend to be very expensive. You could invest the money in better drums, and sell yours on eBay or CL. The other reason I wouldn't go down this upgrade road is, the Pearl Optimount (regular or aluminum) is not going to achieve all of this enhanced resonance you're hoping to hear. You might get a little extra, after tinkering with how they attach to the drums, but it won't be a dramatic improvement your likely dreaming of. I'd consider finding other drums that resonate more; they are worth saving and shopping for.

          Originally posted by Jonah Hex View Post
          Aluminum Optis....I'm replacing the standard Optimounts on my Session kit with them once I get a little extra $$$. No real reason other than aesthetics at this point...
          Exactly, and speaking of aesthetics, I'd rather see more drum, and less mount.

          Originally posted by The_Prowler View Post
          I would love to have those, but $200 for a pair is unfortunately a bit steep for me. This is going to be something I'll have to save for regardless of price.
          Not to mention, at the end of the day, you'll have a Decade Maple drum with an Optimount on it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Drumming-4-Life View Post
            You asked for opinions, so here's my 2 cents. I wouldn't put more money into a Pearl Decade Maple kit, for a couple reasons. I've been down that road in the past... trying to upgrade drums via hardware upgrades. The problem is, it's a waste of money. Drum hardware parts tend to be very expensive. You could invest the money in better drums, and sell yours on eBay or CL. The other reason I wouldn't go down this upgrade road is, the Pearl Optimount (regular or aluminum) is not going to achieve all of this enhanced resonance you're hoping to hear. You might get a little extra, after tinkering with how they attach to the drums, but it won't be a dramatic improvement your likely dreaming of. I'd consider finding other drums that resonate more; they are worth saving and shopping for.



            Exactly, and speaking of aesthetics, I'd rather see more drum, and less mount.



            Not to mention, at the end of the day, you'll have a Decade Maple drum with an Optimount on it.
            He isn't wrong.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Drumming-4-Life View Post
              You asked for opinions, so here's my 2 cents. I wouldn't put more money into a Pearl Decade Maple kit, for a couple reasons. I've been down that road in the past... trying to upgrade drums via hardware upgrades. The problem is, it's a waste of money. Drum hardware parts tend to be very expensive. You could invest the money in better drums, and sell yours on eBay or CL. The other reason I wouldn't go down this upgrade road is, the Pearl Optimount (regular or aluminum) is not going to achieve all of this enhanced resonance you're hoping to hear. You might get a little extra, after tinkering with how they attach to the drums, but it won't be a dramatic improvement your likely dreaming of. I'd consider finding other drums that resonate more; they are worth saving and shopping for.



              Exactly, and speaking of aesthetics, I'd rather see more drum, and less mount.



              Not to mention, at the end of the day, you'll have a Decade Maple drum with an Optimount on it.
              you want more resonance? Upgrade to a session select or a masters maple complete. Better shells and they already have a good mounting system.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cuznred View Post
                you want more resonance? Upgrade to a session select ....
                ^ qft

                :d

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CUZNRED View Post
                  you want more resonance? Upgrade to a session select or a masters maple complete. Better shells and they already have a good mounting system.
                  This!

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the input, guys. Funny you all should mention the Sessions since that was the other kit I was looking at when I was shopping around, but the Decade's were the more affordable route for me. I put some Emperors on the tops which greatly improved the sound, but I never switched out the bottom heads, so that'll probably be the next step I take when I can afford it. I'm sure that'll make another drastic improvement. Everyone who's heard them says they sound great (and don't get me wrong, they absolutely do), but the control is a little *too* controlled sometimes. If I were playing straight rock all the time they would be perfect, but I play a lot of Funk, Soul, R&B and Blues so sometimes I want a little extra ring out of them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Drumming-4-Life View Post
                      You asked for opinions, so here's my 2 cents. I wouldn't put more money into a Pearl Decade Maple kit, for a couple reasons. I've been down that road in the past... trying to upgrade drums via hardware upgrades. The problem is, it's a waste of money. Drum hardware parts tend to be very expensive. You could invest the money in better drums, and sell yours on eBay or CL. The other reason I wouldn't go down this upgrade road is, the Pearl Optimount (regular or aluminum) is not going to achieve all of this enhanced resonance you're hoping to hear. You might get a little extra, after tinkering with how they attach to the drums, but it won't be a dramatic improvement your likely dreaming of. I'd consider finding other drums that resonate more; they are worth saving and shopping for.



                      Exactly, and speaking of aesthetics, I'd rather see more drum, and less mount.



                      Not to mention, at the end of the day, you'll have a Decade Maple drum with an Optimount on it.
                      It’s like putting fancy rims & tires on a Ford Focus. It’s still an economy car. There’s only so far you can take it. No matter how much you put into it, it’ll never drive like a Mustang.
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                      • #12
                        It’s like putting fancy rims & tires on a Ford Focus. It’s still an economy car. There’s only so far you can take it. No matter how much you put into it, it’ll never drive like a Mustang.
                        Agree
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                        • #13
                          Lipstick on a pig and all that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drumming-4-Life View Post
                            You asked for opinions, so here's my 2 cents. I wouldn't put more money into a Pearl Decade Maple kit, for a couple reasons. I've been down that road in the past... trying to upgrade drums via hardware upgrades. The problem is, it's a waste of money. Drum hardware parts tend to be very expensive. You could invest the money in better drums, and sell yours on eBay or CL. The other reason I wouldn't go down this upgrade road is, the Pearl Optimount (regular or aluminum) is not going to achieve all of this enhanced resonance you're hoping to hear. You might get a little extra, after tinkering with how they attach to the drums, but it won't be a dramatic improvement your likely dreaming of. I'd consider finding other drums that resonate more; they are worth saving and shopping for.
                            Agree.

                            When I occasionally make a custom kit using wood shells from a lesser series, I always keep the hardware in line with the series.

                            For example, I recently put together a custom "Martini" kit (with 14" bass drum) using Pearl Masters Maple Complete shells. They come with Masters hardware (CL) and standard Optimounts. I was tempted to use the better Reference Pure hardware (and an aluminum Optimount), but it is not worth the investment (especially the STL- bass drum lugs) since the value of the kit would ultimately be determined by the series (and I would end up changing the hardware back to Masters if I sold it anyway).

                            One exception would be snare drums (depending on the badge) where it is more common to use different hardware with the same type of shell and finish. Another exception would be a drum kit with metal shells.

                            MM
                            Last edited by MusicMan; 02-15-2019, 09:35 AM.
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                            • #15
                              A majority of the drum shells’ resonance comes from heads, hoops, and tuning. I think the optilocks are just fine for your kit. I would spend the cash on some 2.3 hoops.

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