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  • Sethiroth
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    No, Pearl is ignoring this thread like the plague, because I am assuming they don't know whats causing it, or don't want to admit it.

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  • IMF1
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    Did this ever get resolved? Curious.

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  • dunnigan66
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    Originally posted by Sethiroth View Post
    I've been playing my CB's for about 2 months, and one thing I have noticed is my tension rods are coming lose pretty quickly.
    I will tune my toms, and by the end of practice, they will be pretty much de-tuned, and in some cases the tension rods will be essentially finger tight.
    This is my 3rd kit that I've bought brand new, and never had this problem with my other 2 kits.
    Anyone else having this issue?

    Just noticed mine doing this as well ughhh!!!

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  • David Hollywood
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    I just read through this thread. I have actually experienced this as well, most noticeably with the 14" floor tom. I had attributed it to my using the stock heads and not actually stretching them or breaking them in at all, just tuning them up out of the box. I figured it would go away if I put better heads on there and broke them in a bit.

    As others have mentioned, oddly enough this doesn't seem to have much impact on the sound. On any of my other kits/drums if a head is that loose the drum sounds terrible and has almost no tone. On the Crystal Beat floor tom the drum still has a surprising amount of tone to it even with the head almost completely loose on the drum.

    I'm going to change the heads in the next month or so, I'll report back with what I find.

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  • Gravengaard
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    F**K - ment washers obviously! English is not my native language and it was late ;-)

    Nylon washers vs. metal :-)

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  • Josh Conover
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    Originally posted by StickS707 View Post
    What exactly are the skewers you mention...can you take a picture and attach?
    Right?

    I think he's talking about the washers(?). Metal washers included with the Crystal Beats, nylon included with Session Studio Classic and up.

    Lol, "skewers"?

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  • StickS707
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    Originally posted by Gravengaard View Post
    So - I tried the rods from my Masterworks tom on my 12" tom and it DID make a significant difference... Although I only played for an hour and a half, no rods were coming loose.

    I don't know if it's the rod itself or if it's the plastic skewers that keeps them in place. I'll find out by glueing the metal skewers on the CB rods to rod-head and then putting the plastic skewers underneath.

    At least it's a kind of a break through :-)
    What exactly are the skewers you mention...can you take a picture and attach?

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  • Gravengaard
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    So - I tried the rods from my Masterworks tom on my 12" tom and it DID make a significant difference... Although I only played for an hour and a half, no rods were coming loose.

    I don't know if it's the rod itself or if it's the plastic skewers that keeps them in place. I'll find out by glueing the metal skewers on the CB rods to rod-head and then putting the plastic skewers underneath.

    At least it's a kind of a break through :-)

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  • StickS707
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    So this is a real problem. Today I worked with a national drummer (headlining stadium act) that did a clinic/motivational speech at a high school. I've worked with him on a few of these little engagements for a few years now, but since we have started doing schools and not so much at the music store I used to work at, I use my gear (PA and drums). For the last couple, I have used my Crystal Beat because it has the DrumLites installed and looks really cool...the students dig it. The last time the tension rods backed out on most of the kit, but I figured it was a fluke. So I set up and did a baseline tuning on the kit (after the PA was setup to allow for the temp change) night before. This morning I tuned the kit for the show.

    He played 3 songs...when I was breaking down the kit down, all three toms (went with 12, 14, 16), had most of the tension rods backed out...including rods on the reso heads. And when I say backed out, I mean there were some that were at risk of falling out. The only saving grace is that the drums still sounded okay (no weird overtones or "paper" sounding), just dull and thuddy...and not the way they were tuned (mid/low with TONE).

    The fact that almost all tension rods came loose makes me think that the swivel nuts are no good. I have a set of Pearl swivel nuts that I'm going to (finally) put on one of the toms I use the most (10 or 14) and see what happens after the gig I have next Saturday. If anyone has any insights prior to that...POST UP!

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  • Sethiroth
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    Originally posted by Gravengaard View Post
    Yeah, played my kit now for 2 hours. Had to tune my 12" tom once, my floortom twice and one of the rods on the bassdrum was lying on floor... This is not cool!

    I wonder if it's the cheap metal skewer on the tensions rods that causes this? My Masterworks has the plastic skewers and there are no problems with those. I'm gonna take the tension rods from one of my Masterworks toms and put it on the Crystal Beat to see if it'll solve anything.
    I would love to read your findings on this! Thanks!

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  • Gravengaard
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    Yeah, played my kit now for 2 hours. Had to tune my 12" tom once, my floortom twice and one of the rods on the bassdrum was lying on floor... This is not cool!

    I wonder if it's the cheap metal skewer on the tensions rods that causes this? My Masterworks has the plastic skewers and there are no problems with those. I'm gonna take the tension rods from one of my Masterworks toms and put it on the Crystal Beat to see if it'll solve anything.

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  • StickS707
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    I really hope Pearl gets a solution for this...I have recommended the kit (and Pearl in general) since I got it. I thought mine was an isolated incident. I've got 4 Pearl kits at all levels from Export to Reference, plus about 10 Pearl snares ranging from the Export to the TriColon, and the only drums with tuning issues (or any issue) are the Crystal Beats. I'd hate to have to start changing from saying "I love Pearl" to "I love Pearl...except the Crystal Beat has some issues."

    I'm still wondering if the issue is tension rods or the swivel nuts...I haven't had time to fully investigate.

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  • Stuffed Chimp
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    Originally posted by Gravengaard View Post
    Please Pearl - this seems to be a real problem for what seems to be a lot of people. Can you look into a solution? I love Pearl and though I'm not expecting Masterworks level of quality, I to at least want the drums to be in tune for longer periods of time. One of your reps in Scandinavia suggested the Pearl TNK-10N/10, but I don't wanna fork out +10€ for a pack of 10 (with my drumkit is 96 lugs), when this is something that shouldn't happen in the first place. Thank you :-)

    Well I was expecting masterworks levels of quality on my MMP and instead I got drums that lose their tuning within minutes at times. I did raise this with Pearl Europe who got my dealer onto it and he's still sorting new tension rods for me, but when you fork out literally thousands for a specially ordered, top end, brand new kit it's very, very disheartening to say the least. As much as I love the colour (yellow!) I'm afraid given the endless tuning issues I don't think I'm ever going to love the kit.

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  • Gravengaard
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    Please Pearl - this seems to be a real problem for what seems to be a lot of people.

    Can you look into a solution? I love Pearl and though I'm not expecting Masterworks level of quality, I to at least want the drums to be in tune for longer periods of time.

    One of your reps in Scandinavia suggested the Pearl TNK-10N/10, but I don't wanna fork out +10€ for a pack of 10 (with my drumkit is 96 lugs), when this is something that shouldn't happen in the first place.

    Thank you :-)

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  • Sethiroth
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    People are saying that they aren't tuned high enough. Well I crank my 10" tom and it still comes loose pretty quickly. Not as fast as my floor toms, which I keep fairly loose, but still a lot faster then my other drum kits.

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