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broken ride maker
02-20-2003, 07:00 PM
Hay guys, im making my own snare out of PVC pipe. I have another thread posted before called "The mysterious bearing edge" But im ready to cut and im having the hardest time trying to figure out what size to cut it. Its 14" in Diameter,3/4" thick and im going to vent it with 4 2" holes. Im looking for the hardest hitting sound possible. What depth?

Blank
02-20-2003, 10:23 PM
Go with 6x14"

I wanna try this snare out!! But before you vent it, see how it sounds without vents. Sometimes vents can sound weird if its not wood. Like metal vents don't always sound all that great. Just a thought...

Dman
02-21-2003, 04:32 AM
I'm thinking 14X6 as well. I think that checking it before venting would prolbably be good too. If it's not good with no vents, then you could cut one and check it again. Once you've got holes (vents) kinda hard to put em back.

Dman
:cool:

Full Collapse
02-21-2003, 09:50 AM
6.5x14

luvmydrumz
02-21-2003, 12:22 PM
I prefer the 8x14.
I have 2 8x14 (1 steel/1 maple)

The Maple sounds incredible and looks killer.

broken ride maker
02-21-2003, 08:22 PM
So what sound should i look for before i port it? What would be the sound that would let me go ahead and port it?

Butnutz
02-21-2003, 09:13 PM
there is no distinguishing "venting" factor, other than your own personal taste.


NOTE!:!!!!!:

PVC PIPE IS NOT MEANT FOR DRUMS!

this means that the outside diameter is probably about 14" even.

a 14" drum has an outside diameter of about 13-7/8" to accomodate a drumhead. Before you start drilling and assembling, make sure that you can fit a drumhead, and be able to spin it freely, after you cut the edges.

ALSO NOTE: PVC becomes brittle under certain conditions.
I wouldnt not recommend venting a PVC drum,as a hard rimshot could crack the shell.

rockdrummer00
02-21-2003, 09:34 PM
I love the 3 1/2x13 limited edition tama hand hammered piccolo snare and I love it,but 12 inch snares are cool too...

mrbeaver
02-21-2003, 10:29 PM
13inch they have such sweet crisp sounds

broken ride maker
02-22-2003, 12:00 AM
Butnutz:




I got you covered their. The outside of the drum is not 14" exactly. The exact size is infact a smidg smaller then 13 7/8". So the drumhead will fit freely on the drum. And as for cracking the shell, this is whare my PVC comes in handy. I guess i sorta lied in the materal. Its not your standard PVC. This is the PVC used in water mains. It has a bit more "give" than normal stuff so it wont be cracking anytime soon. But its still 100% PVC, just a different type.


Pretty good planning for a 15 year old.

:D

joetheking
02-23-2003, 02:25 AM
My snare of choice right now is the Pearl piccolo. The best thing about it is how LOUD it is! My guitarist always hates when I use powerfull rim shots. He responds with turning up his amp.

Butnutz
02-23-2003, 12:26 PM
glad to see you already have that covered, because ive seen people drill and install lugs, jsut to find that a drumhead wont fit on the shell...DOH!

Rufio
02-23-2003, 02:26 PM
3x14 is my preference

broken ride maker
02-23-2003, 05:18 PM
Hay guys, ive finally finished the snare and it sounds great! And ive put on a fresh ste of heads. Its very loud and strong. Its got a deeper and more direct sound then compaired to wood or steel. when i hit it i can feel it in my chest. Oh, and the rimshots, well they too are VERY loud. Let me know what you think

broken ride maker
02-23-2003, 05:19 PM
and another.........

TLD
02-24-2003, 03:18 PM
The lug angles look unhealthy?

broken ride maker
02-24-2003, 04:48 PM
Yes they do, dont they. But what i did to prevent any damage is modified the back side of the lug so it would be able to bend that way.

RedHotMuDMath
02-24-2003, 08:14 PM
that might be a project I may consider in the future! Very cool!

Just a few questions for you though:
1) how much did the material cost? Not too much I assume, eh?
2) how does it sound compared to other materials, such as maple, birch, mahogany, steel, brass, aluminum, carbon fiber, etc.
3) what kind of heads are you using for it?

broken ride maker
02-24-2003, 09:51 PM
Hay their, heres the answers to your question.


1) The price of the material was free for me, but if you go to a hardware store you should be able to get a piece for about 20 bucks canadian or less.

2)The snare sounds very good. Compared to steel or any metal, its a bit darker in sound but with lots of attack. And compared to wood, its VERY SOLID and loud. Its as warm as wood but with the "hit" of metal. Probably because its vented.

3)And for a batter head im usind a remo diplomat coated and for the snare side im using a remo ambassador hazy. I really like the coated head because it "compliments" the warmpth and impact of the shell.

-Hope this helps.

guitarra
02-25-2003, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by broken ride maker
Hay guys, ive finally finished the snare and it sounds great! And ive put on a fresh ste of heads. Its very loud and strong. Its got a deeper and more direct sound then compaired to wood or steel. when i hit it i can feel it in my chest. Oh, and the rimshots, well they too are VERY loud. Let me know what you think


That's really cool. I'm thinking of making my own snare drum. Can you list the hardware you needed to make it? I'm not 100% sure on what I need.

Thanks!

broken ride maker
02-25-2003, 10:14 PM
Heres the hardware that i used. If you could find an old snare you could use that too, but i went custom

8-lugs
16- tension rods
2 hoops (one top and one bottom)
1-snare belt
1-set of throw offs.
1-snare side head
1- Batter head.

xXx
02-26-2003, 12:39 AM
3.5 x 14 Solid Brass with die cast hoops!

Fredzs
02-26-2003, 01:37 AM
how did you do the snare bed ? ? ? ?

broken ride maker
02-26-2003, 06:30 PM
Hay, I did the snare bed with a file and alot of patience. Its a bit primitive, but it worked.

Drum1
02-27-2003, 02:23 PM
I have a 3 by 13" pearl maple piccolo snare and it's lush!

stavis
02-27-2003, 02:24 PM
I voted for 5x15.....nice versatility

MisterSeth
03-05-2003, 08:38 PM
i like 12x7........tune them tight as hell.......lots of crack

but now im stuck with a 14x5 i like it a lot though

Fixxxer
03-09-2003, 08:20 PM
i like 4x15 and 5x12..........................not choices they are

hack44030
03-10-2003, 12:40 AM
I like 6x14 and 5x14:D

MBJ
03-11-2003, 09:51 PM
I'm a huge fan of the oddball 4"x14" size. Shallow like a piccalo, but with additional power. It's not easy finding drums in this size. Both snare drums I own in this size are long since discontinued.

Pearl John Robinson signature model (maple)
Yamaha Peter Erskine signature model (birch)

broken ride maker
03-12-2003, 08:55 PM
heres the bearing edge

SLIPKNOT1
03-12-2003, 09:07 PM
I cant tell from the pic, but is there tape all over the bearing edge???

broken ride maker
03-12-2003, 09:19 PM
yup, awhile ago i posted a thread whare i asked if it was possible to break a head due to a bearing edge that was too sharp. And well i felt the edge and i was really sharp. So i went over it with a file and put the head back on and it didnt sound like i wanted. So i put some tape on it and it is perfect.

Custom Z
03-18-2003, 04:11 PM
Hey,

I did this too 2 years ago. I made a 14*5 out of PVC pipe!
Sounds like you described: Loud, darker than metal, but more attack than wood. I didn't put vents in it, except for 1 very small one, but I put 10 lug die cast hoops on it, so they give plenty of crack. I also put a very small radius on the bearing edges to prevent it from cutting the heads.
Nice to hear other drummers experimenting with the same, good luck,

Robert

Smoke N Drums
03-19-2003, 02:17 PM
It wasn't in your poll: 12" x 7" will give you all the cut, punch, and crack you'll ever want.

DRUMBOO
03-21-2003, 12:22 PM
14x6,5

thenuthouse1
03-21-2003, 12:35 PM
Broken Ride Maker:

You might consider putting some lug gaskets under your lugs. That would help to alleviate your angle issues you have with the tuning rods.

If you need to, you can make the gaskets yourself.

Stay well,

Geoff

PS,

Did I see that snare on the drummaker forum?

G

broken ride maker
03-21-2003, 05:27 PM
Hay, thenuthouse1 here is the picture of the finished snare. I made gaskets out of black 3/16"plastic. And of course finished it in fur. Hope you like.

phily05
04-05-2003, 11:16 PM
Can somebody please post a picture of a snare bed. I am still a bit confused as to what it is. Somebody described it to me before, I just want a picture to clarify that I can read properly. LOL. :rolleyes:

ROBB283DT
04-05-2003, 11:49 PM
I like the feel of the 5.5*14 the best. However if I were between a 5 inch deep vs a 6 inch deep I would go with 6 inch deep because I like to have body to my snare sound. Anything shallower than 5.5 in the 14 inch snares are too thin in a way. I might as well be playing a piccolo.

AL PERCIVAL
04-13-2003, 05:36 PM
1) 8x14 and 2- 7x14's :D (maple and Titanium)