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Pyrotechnic
02-19-2003, 07:53 PM
I want a china cymbal, or a cymbal with that china sound, not to trashy that will blend well with my regular crashes. Something between a crash and china that blends well basically. Any recomendations ?

TLD
02-20-2003, 12:57 AM
Theres a cymbal on the Deftones album "white pony" that is a very sharp attack and quick fade, but it is used and performs very well as a crash. Since I don't know Abe's setup on that record I can't tell what it is, but with some research you might find it.

emopunker
02-20-2003, 03:58 AM
Try the 18" Sabian AA Fast Chinese, it's a very crashy china cymbal, short and sweet. Or try the 18" AA Rocktagon Crash, it's a crashier cymbal with a partial china sound in it.

TLD, Abe Cunningham's Setup (http://www.zildjian.com/artist-frames.asp?id=171&gr=AR) Link 2 (http://www.wickedland.com/deftones/instruments/)

aenemic
02-20-2003, 06:36 AM
emopunker, that second link doesn't give any useful information about Abe's set-up...

TLD, I know what sound you're talking about - he plays it in the chorus of Knife Party and in the bridge in Passenger. I first thought it was his china, but I doubt it is, so it must be the 20" Oriental Crash of Doom. weird thing about that is that he has it set up to the left of his hi-hats, which I can imagine makes it very hard to ride. unless he rides with his left hand, that is...

TimY
02-20-2003, 06:58 AM
I have a 19" K China and it's really, really good. Very loud though hehe

Ambion
02-20-2003, 08:37 AM
try the Paiste 18" 2002 novo china

Beattimyer
02-20-2003, 03:17 PM
HHXtreme Crashes or perhaps Signature Fierce crashes...check them out, very trashy crashes. Initial trash, with some sustain.

BRIG6366
02-20-2003, 06:51 PM
Paiste Signature 18" Heavy China.

xXx
02-23-2003, 08:17 PM
Try the 18" Oriental Classic china.... It blends very well with those crashes....

griffix
02-24-2003, 03:16 PM
Try the Avedis China High or China Low