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Bodgit
08-16-2018, 05:01 PM
Going to meet with a 17 piece big band next week who are looking for a drummer, if things work out I'll need a kit I can take to rehearsals as my SRX is setup with silent stroke heads/L80 cymbals for practising and it would be a right ball ache to keep swapping heads. The SRX will be used for performances though! The Midtown seems perfect for this, thoughts?

I reckon its a no brainer but would be interested to hear views from anyone who's played this kit with this kind of band.

How long does it take to put this kit up and tear it down?

RushDrums24
08-16-2018, 05:43 PM
I'd try for something with an 18" bass drum personally, just gives a bit more thump and volume, which is definitely needed in a big band context. 18", 12", 14" is IMO the best compact big band kit.
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TMdrums
08-16-2018, 07:52 PM
Agree with RushDrums24!
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Bodgit
08-17-2018, 05:16 AM
So what would be the 18" equivalent of the Midtown, including snare? Is that a Natal Cafe Racer 18" kit? Its quite a bit more expensive than the Midtown and this kit is only for rehearsals. I'm in the UK.

https://www.gear4music.com/Drums-and-Percussion/Natal-Cafe-Racer-18-Jazz-Shell-Pack-w-Free-Snare-Champagne-Sparkle/2JCO

RushDrums24
08-17-2018, 06:21 AM
So what would be the 18" equivalent of the Midtown, including snare? Is that a Natal Cafe Racer 18" kit? Its quite a bit more expensive than the Midtown and this kit is only for rehearsals. I'm in the UK.

https://www.gear4music.com/Drums-and-Percussion/Natal-Cafe-Racer-18-Jazz-Shell-Pack-w-Free-Snare-Champagne-Sparkle/2JCO

I’m in the UK too! :) Where abouts you from?

Yes mine is a Cafe Racer, and very nice too, for your use and budget, look at the Natal Arcadia bop kits, birch shells and perfect for heavy gigging. Hope this helps.

https://www.gear4music.com/Drums-and-Percussion/Natal-Arcadia-Birch-18-4pc-Shell-Pack-Black-Sparkle/1E4Z?origin=product-ads&campaign=PLA+Shop+-+GENERIC&adgroup=GENERIC&medium=vertical_search&network=google&merchant_id=1279443&product_id=64979d1&product_country=GB&product_partition_id=117907699718&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5NnbBRDaARIsAJP-YR9p4mCEY90nymNqVGffKUNttYtU7MasiL8UZ6eAKHY_vKZee_ lRXmoaAn0NEALw_wcB

Bodgit
08-17-2018, 06:27 AM
Thanks for the link, that's more like it! Food for thought, same price as the Midtown (give or take) and reviews seem good. I'm near Woking in Surrey.

Are there cases available that take the drums like with the Midtown e.g. snare and both toms in a single bag?

RushDrums24
08-17-2018, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the link, that's more like it! Food for thought, same price as the Midtown (give or take) and reviews seem good. I'm near Woking in Surrey.

Are there cases available that take the drums like with the Midtown e.g. snare and both toms in a single bag?

I’m in London myself. Not sure they do the cases off the shelf but the pearl ones don’t look too long lasting. A company like Protection racket would probably custom build you something of a similar design, and the quality will be much higher. Also worth looking at Hardcase, who makes abs cases that fit 2 drums in (13+14 would be the closest size to what you want, but it would be heavier and much bulkier.

AL PERCIVAL
08-17-2018, 11:26 AM
Are there cases available that take the drums like with the Midtown e.g. snare and both toms in a single bag?

The MDT764PBG model comes with the bag set.

Bodgit
08-17-2018, 12:02 PM
The MDT764PBG model comes with the bag set.

Hey thanks Al, I was actually referring to the Natal kit...whether there was a similar big bag that takes multiple drums but I guess it would be too cumbersome. Nice though the Natal is with the 18" BD, I'm leaning towards the Midtown due to its practicality and smaller size. Its not like I need this small kit for performances, just rehearsals.

Saw this on Ebay, too far away but I'm sure someone will snap it up https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Natal-arcadia-5-piece-Drum-kit-Tobacco-sunburst-Birch/302844998856

RushDrums24
08-17-2018, 03:17 PM
Hey thanks Al, I was actually referring to the Natal kit...whether there was a similar big bag that takes multiple drums but I guess it would be too cumbersome. Nice though the Natal is with the 18" BD, I'm leaning towards the Midtown due to its practicality and smaller size. Its not like I need this small kit for performances, just rehearsals.

Saw this on Ebay, too far away but I'm sure someone will snap it up https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Natal-arcadia-5-piece-Drum-kit-Tobacco-sunburst-Birch/302844998856

Yeah, for your use, Arcadia bop is the way to go for the price, and the birch shells, where the midtown is poplar.

StickS707
08-17-2018, 06:59 PM
I love my Midtown. The kit is pretty versatile and should be fine for rehearsals. I got mine originally for acoustic/"stripped down" shows with my band (we do everything from country to hip-hop), but I also use it for gigs during the week so that I can get broke down and home to bed. I use the Midtown snare as my aux snare for my main gig kit (tuned up high and tight as an aux, and mid/low when used with the Midtown kit), and I was using the Midtown kick as an aux kick drum to get a different sound for ballads and for tunes that have an alternate kick sound during breakdowns and for ballads.

If you get the Midtown with the bags, all the drums fits into 3 bags. If you don't add cymbals stands (I added 3), break down takes about 15 min. And you can carry it all to your vehicle in one trip if you have to.
This is the entire kit packed up:

Ehrin
08-17-2018, 09:19 PM
I have a midtown and a small bop kit. (a couple actually) Pro tip, a normal bop kit will fit in the midtown bags provided your toms aren't too deep. I have a 12x8, 14x12, and a 13x5 snare in the bag and they all fit great. You will just need a bigger bass drum bag. I have to agree that a bit bigger kit for a big band is ideal. You'll want some good projection when setting up hits and licks. That being said, the midtown does sound good and if it's just for rehearsal it would be worth a try.

Bodgit
08-18-2018, 04:35 AM
Thanks both for your reviews and advice, now I'm leaning more towards the Arcadia as its more versatile and would be a better option should I need a small kit for performances e.g. in a park/band stand. I already have all even sizes of drum bags (8 thru 20).

RushDrums24
08-18-2018, 03:29 PM
Thanks both for your reviews and advice, now I'm leaning more towards the Arcadia as its more versatile and would be a better option should I need a small kit for performances e.g. in a park/band stand. I already have all even sizes of drum bags (8 thru 20).

Great choice, drop me a PM anytime you're in the big smoke :)

Bodgit
08-24-2018, 06:10 AM
I went along to the big band rehearsal, they liked what they heard and will invite me back for more so that's great news. I hadn't played swing time for nearly 30 years and have a few things to practice. I saw a Natal Arcadia Birch Jazz/Bop kit for sale locally, in a great colour and at a very good price, so picked it up on Thursday. I think it looks really cool. Its hardly been played, I tore it down, dusted it and put the heads back on and tuned them a bit. It doesn't sound half bad even with the stock UT heads so will keep these on for a while, may be change them for UV1s and an EMAD on the bass. We'll see.

I'm using my old 30+ year old cymbals at the moment: 14" new beat hi hats, 21" ride, 16" medium crash and a 17" (I think) paper thin crash mounted from the tom holder.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1834/44185693062_1899366566_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1879/44185697422_6ff5d73728_c.jpg

RushDrums24
08-24-2018, 07:25 AM
I went along to the big band rehearsal, they liked what they heard and will invite me back for more so that's great news. I hadn't played swing time for nearly 30 years and have a few things to practice. I saw a Natal Arcadia Birch Jazz/Bop kit for sale locally, in a great colour and at a very good price, so picked it up on Thursday. I think it looks really cool. Its hardly been played, I tore it down, dusted it and put the heads back on and tuned them a bit. It doesn't sound half bad even with the stock UT heads so will keep these on for a while, may be change them for UV1s and an EMAD on the bass. We'll see.

I'm using my old 30+ year old cymbals at the moment: 14" new beat hi hats, 21" ride, 16" medium crash and a 17" (I think) paper thin crash mounted from the tom holder.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1834/44185693062_1899366566_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1879/44185697422_6ff5d73728_c.jpg

Great little setup, can't go wrong with that. I've used 18" bass drums in every situation from small function, rehearsals, rock gig and outdoor festivals, it's perfect anywhere and surprises every sound engineer I meet (they all joke that they assumed it was the floor tom, but get a mighty shock when the beater hits the batter head) :)

Bodgit
08-24-2018, 04:33 PM
HaHa my SRX floor tom is actually bigger (deeper) than that bass drum.

Bodgit
12-20-2018, 05:48 AM
Really enjoying this Arcadia kit, the Mapex BD riser is a great addition for the 18" BD. Rehearsing with a 17 piece big band in a primary school hall. Its also just the right size to fit snugly in my car boot.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4811/45479960545_fab15f5666_c.jpg