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Boy_Narf
06-06-2018, 05:13 PM
Hello Everyone!

I'm looking to order a DMP1814BX/C228, the 18X14" decade maple kick in solid yellow, for those who don't memorize model numbers :)

I currently gig with a 16X14 export floor tom which has been converted into a kick, but have always wanted an 18" kick. I decided to do some research and discovered that the decade maple line has an 18X14, and it is quite affordable in comparison to the other lines. I quickly realized that only the 24" comes in a virgin configuration. I then found some listings that seemed to indicate that the 18" is available without the BB300.

I emailed USA support and they said yup, you can order it. I then contacted my local L&M and they said sorry, only the 24" is available without the tom mounts. I emailed support again and they said yes you can order it, try a different retailer. Hmm...

So I'm wondering if anyone can help me out here. Is there a specific model number that would relate to the virgin version of this drum? Or is it a "custom order" from the factory?

My final question is if the BBC-1 bass drum plate is compatible with the BB300 mount? I believe it was developed for the older BB3. Just want to confirm as I could order the standard version and then install the plate.

Thanks everyone.

Boy_Narf
06-07-2018, 03:19 PM
Well confirmed from another retailer only the 24" comes sans tom mount... boo.

So back to my second question. Does anyone know if the BBC-1 matches with the newer BB300 mounting footprint?

thanks,

RushDrums24
06-07-2018, 03:57 PM
Al Percival is the man to help you, no doubt he'll PM you when he see's this thread.

18" Bass drums FTW :)
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Boy_Narf
06-08-2018, 09:18 AM
Indeed on the 18" kick subject :)

I really like my 16" floor tom conversion. Super punchy, tight, and never muddies up the mix. Great for the speedy garagepunkrock that we play. The 16 does lack a bit of low end of course, which is why I picked up a 20X15 CB last year. It sounds fine, but I'm missing that "smaller drum punch" that I get from the 16. I'm thinking the 18 will be a good mix between the two. Not to mention it should weight half of what the CB does. Man that thing is heavy!

The DM 18" kick in Solid yellow is going to look great with my trans orange free floater, and masters mcx chestnut fade toms :)

Boy_Narf
06-08-2018, 10:48 AM
WOW! So apparently the Canadian Pearl rep asked their contact in Japan (thought they were made in Taiwan, perhaps they manage the factory?) very nicely, and they said okay but only this one time. AMAZING! I'll be putting in my order later today (ETA November :D).

Really great stuff. Thanks Pearl! Been supporting you since I bought my first kit (black on black export) 16 years ago, and after this you definitely have a customer for life!

Will be a great early xmas gift for myself :)

bgarcia17
06-08-2018, 11:01 AM
Decade Maple drums are made in China.

Boy_Narf
06-08-2018, 11:33 AM
Yup, they must have a rep or distributor in Japan that works with the factory.

Boy_Narf
01-04-2019, 04:09 PM
Hello Everyone,

So 8 months later, and it's finally here! 18x14 virgin DM kick!

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The kick and tom sound great. Took me quite a while to get the FT tuned up. I had a horrible time trying to tune the stock skins, but after picking up a Vintage coated emp, and clear amb, I was able to get a decent sound. The stock skins on the kick are sounding pretty good TBH. Think I'll hold off upgrading them for the time being.

I am a bit let down on the finishing though. On the 16" FT, the paint on the seam is lumpy. Also it feels like they forgot to sand the inside, as there is a bunch of grain lifting on one side and LOTS of tear-out at the seam (dull blade probably). I am more impressed with the kick (Even came with a BD pillow, and a velcro strip pre applied). The inside of the BD is much smoother, and there is no tear-out. There is a bit of paint missing on the front hoop, and when i went to attach my HPP2, it chipped the paint while I was sliding it on (hidden by the HPP2 so not bothered by it. Defiantly not the most durable finish. I think they would be pretty banged up after a few gigs, but this setup will be staying in the rehearsal space so nothing to worry about. They are budget drums, so I can't be too annoyed by any of the above points. They are sounding great and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

MusicMan
01-10-2019, 01:15 PM
Hello Everyone,

So 8 months later, and it's finally here! 18x14 virgin DM kick!

Nice. I'm surprised it took that long.

Boy_Narf
01-10-2019, 02:50 PM
Yea getting it without the mount was the issue. Apparently it's not possible to get these in Canada, but the sales feller at L&M "knows a guy" haha.

Anyway, I ordered a custom hoop with a built in riser from a Canadian drum builder. Will be here in two weeks. Can't wait to get it on there! Did some testing with beater height and it is ever so slightly more punchy, with less note hitting it closer to the middle. Going to be wonderful :D

TMdrums
01-10-2019, 04:02 PM
Yea getting it without the mount was the issue. Apparently it's not possible to get these in Canada, but the sales feller at L&M "knows a guy" haha.

Anyway, I ordered a custom hoop with a built in riser from a Canadian drum builder. Will be here in two weeks. Can't wait to get it on there! Did some testing with beater height and it is ever so slightly more punchy, with less note hitting it closer to the middle. Going to be wonderful :D

Nice little kit and dig the Tony William's yellow laquer!

Boy_Narf
02-04-2019, 12:38 PM
Update. I ordered a hoop with a riser from a custom drum company in Canada. It is a bit more simple than I though it would be considering the price but it seems to be working. The simple threaded screw system he has in place gives me a bit of adjust ability as well (got it matching my spur height perfectly). Compared the stock hoop, it seems to have slightly less volume, but increased sustain. Tone seems improved now as well. Much more punchy and less beach ball that's for sure! My only complaint is now that the beater is closer to the middle I'm fighting beater bounce when burying. I'm sure I'll get used to it. Defiantly not as bad as on my 22".

Ah yes and I decided to leave it raw primary to save money. I do a bit of wood working from time to time, so I might end up throwing some stain on there once the weather improves. That said, it's not the ugliest thing I've seen :)

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MusicMan
02-04-2019, 02:33 PM
Update. I ordered a hoop with a riser from a custom drum company in Canada. It is a bit more simple than I though it would be considering the price but it seems to be working. The simple threaded screw system he has in place gives me a bit of adjust ability as well (got it matching my spur height perfectly). Compared the stock hoop, it seems to have slightly less volume, but increased sustain. Tone seems improved now as well. Much more punchy and less beach ball that's for sure! My only complaint is now that the beater is closer to the middle I'm fighting beater bounce when burying. I'm sure I'll get used to it. Defiantly not as bad as on my 22".

Ah yes and I decided to leave it raw primary to save money. I do a bit of wood working from time to time, so I might end up throwing some stain on there once the weather improves. That said, it's not the ugliest thing I've seen :)


It looks good, but you could also just have someone drill a BT-3 mount into the bottom of the shell and then use a Pearl Jungle Gig pedal mount along with the original yellow hoop.

MM :)

Boy_Narf
02-04-2019, 04:06 PM
Yea I could have modded the shell, but decided it would be best to leave it alone. This hoop is an easy swap out for the time being. Got some new skins OTW so ill do an in depth comparison on shells/beater heights once i get them installed.

MusicMan
02-05-2019, 05:53 AM
Yea I could have modded the shell, but decided it would be best to leave it alone. This hoop is an easy swap out for the time being. Got some new skins OTW so ill do an in depth comparison on shells/beater heights once i get them installed.

Sounds good. :)

RG1820X
02-15-2019, 04:33 AM
I just saw this thread. Congratulations on your successful order. 18x14 is my favorite bass drum size.


It looks good, but you could also just have someone drill a BT-3 mount into the bottom of the shell and then use a Pearl Jungle Gig pedal mount along with the original yellow hoop.

MM :)

I know that you've done this modification but if he went this route, would he have any issues with pedal (and/or beater)-head distance due to the hoop width? (Although it does not apply to a custom modification like yours) I have used the Jungle Gig for a 16" and an 18" floor tom conversion in the past, but I never measured the pedal distance to the head. I had to adjust my beater arm angle on my DW pedal when I used a Gibraltar bass drum lift.

MusicMan
02-15-2019, 06:20 AM
I just saw this thread. Congratulations on your successful order. 18x14 is my favorite bass drum size.



I know that you've done this modification but if he went this route, would he have any issues with pedal (and/or beater)-head distance due to the hoop width? (Although it does not apply to a custom modification like yours) I have used the Jungle Gig for a 16" and an 18" floor tom conversion in the past, but I never measured the pedal distance to the head. I had to adjust my beater arm angle on my DW pedal when I used a Gibraltar bass drum lift.

I always install the center of the tube hole of the BT-3 mount 2.75" from the batter edge (of the kick drum shell) and use 1.5" wood hoops (with no cut out).

The JG16 pedal mount enables the Pearl pedal chain to clear the wood hoop by about 3/4" when it is attached to the pedal mount. I haven't had any issues with beater angle, but someone who is particular about it might feel differently.

The angle is really no different that if the pedal was clamped to the hoop itself.

MM :)

Boy_Narf
03-15-2019, 01:49 PM
These notifications keep ending up in my junk bin...

Anyway after doing many back and forth comparisons, I've decided that the riser doesn't make much of a difference. Expensive test, but good to know going forward in the future. I did not detect and discernible difference in punch with or without the riser. The difference is when the riser is on I get beater flutter when burying. Putting the stock rim back on and being quite far above centre feels WAY better to me. So I installed the stock hoop and put the riser up for sale. I also ordered new skins and decided to "GASP" port the stock reso :O I haven't played a ported head in a decade as I far prefer the tone of unported. This drum however really seems to have opened up. As my singer put it, "it sounds like a gunshot", haha. It's super punchy and there is 0 beater flutter. It honestly sounds amazing. Of course it's not the loudest kick, and when the full band comes over I mic it up through the Bose L1M2B2 just to add a little bump. Super impressed. I also swaped my stock pearl 4 sided beater with a VicKick wood beater. What an upgrade! Ever more punch! Kick doesn't get lost in the band mix anymore.

My only complaint as I have with both of my DM drums, is that the lugs just won't stay put. I have to tune my tom after every jam, and have just noticed that the drum claws came so loose the skin is rotating (never had that issue before). Looks like I'll need to invest in some of those "lug locks". I'm starting to understand the appeal of high end drums. I play a Masters MCX floor tom live and I never need to tune that thing (unless it's -40 out of course). It's rock solid.

Oh well. The kick is sounding soo good I can't be all that mad at it :) Still fumbling with the FT though. Some days love it, others I vow to go tomless hahaha.