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drouyn
10-22-2016, 03:42 PM
Hi all!!! Been a while since i wrote a post. Just chasing any opinions on my potential ref pure order.
Heres what im thinking.
10x7 RT
12x7 RT
14x12FT
16x14FT
22x20K
13x5.5 Snare

Im curious to know what every one thinks of have 2 matched depth rack toms. I mean ive seen a couple of pics getting around and it looks great but does it sound ok? And are there any negatives? I preference the shallow toms cause im a short *** and like the toms alittle lower with out too much angle.

also whats ever ones thoughts on the 22x20 kick. Ive all ways been a fan of massive kick drums but recently i played a MHX 22x14kick and was so impressed by the depth and tone it wasnt funny!

Let me know what yous all reakon!!! Cheers!

Andy H
10-22-2016, 04:11 PM
I think matched depth rack toms look cool. Every once in a while I'll play a 9x10 and 9x12 combination. If I were you, I'd go with an 8 to 9" depth. It just looks better. That's just me.

The only big criticism I have is with your bass drum size. I'd recommend 14", 16" or 18" depth. If you get a 20" deep kick, you'll have trouble fitting it on small stages, squeezing it into the back of a car, etc.

Ehrin
10-22-2016, 04:24 PM
Had a Ref 22x20 kick and it sounded massive but to echo Andy, it was a pain to move and get on a lot of drum risers. Now I'm rocking a 24x14 and loving it.

CUZNRED
10-22-2016, 04:28 PM
It's your kit but this is what I would do If I was ordering one
10x8
12x9
14x13
16x14
22x16 kick

Divine Sentiment
10-22-2016, 04:34 PM
It's your kit but this is what I'm going to do when I order mine.
10x8
12x9
14x13
16x14
22x16 kick

Fixed. :-) just kidding! ♡

Drumming-4-Life
10-22-2016, 05:39 PM
I've owned two different pairs or 22x20 kick drums, one pair of 6-ply maple and one pair of thick 10-ply maple/mahogany. Neither pair sounded as powerful and deep as the 22x18 kicks I had that were thin ply 100% mahogany. I think you will get a nice deep tone with the thin shells, so no need for 20" deep. Just my opinion.

drouyn
10-22-2016, 10:36 PM
Haha! Cheers!

Andy H
10-23-2016, 07:24 AM
It's your kit but this is what I would do If I was ordering one
10x8
12x9
14x13
16x14
22x16 kick

Agreed. Those are excellent sizes.

sticks4drums
10-23-2016, 07:57 AM
Well if you are going to custom order, then I would get one extra in the order just in case. 22 x 20 bass drums sound great, and look great, but are a pain if you have to move them.

10 x 8
12 x 9
13 x 10
15 x13
18 x 16
22 x 18

dale w miller
10-23-2016, 08:14 AM
Stay away from that deep of a kick drum. The immediate reason to thank me is simply how much easier it is to transport. I suggest a 16" depth for both tone and convenience.

scooterdavis
10-23-2016, 09:02 AM
Stay away from that deep of a kick drum. The immediate reason to thank me is simply how much easier it is to transport. I suggest a 16" depth for both tone and convenience.
18 for tone; 16 for convenience:)

dale w miller
10-23-2016, 09:34 AM
18 for tone; 16 for convenience:)

16" for tone and 14" for convenience.

therocker
10-23-2016, 09:53 AM
16" for tone and 14" for convenience.

14" for tone and 12" for convenience! :)

dale w miller
10-23-2016, 11:01 AM
14" for tone and 12" for convenience! :)

Forgot it. Play the table and chairs at the venue.

therocker
10-23-2016, 11:40 AM
Forgot it. Play the table and chairs at the venue.

Now that's convenient!

redma61
10-24-2016, 06:42 PM
Those toms sizes seem really convenient as far as setting up.
i have 10x8 and 12x8 for the same reason as you. I try to sit at a higher level and the drums basically as low as possible and having a shorter
12x8 makes a big difference.
as fare as the 22x20 if your really sold on that size i'm sure it will sound great. i took a chance and got a 22x16 and
am very happy with it's tone sustain and over all sound.

neilrush
10-24-2016, 07:51 PM
I had a lot of problems moving a 22X20 bass into my house. I couldnt pass through to the doors lol!

steadypocket
10-24-2016, 08:05 PM
That extra kick depth gets you nothing but a backache.

drummaman1
10-24-2016, 08:57 PM
7x10 and 7x12 is cool, but most brands are offering either 7x10 and 8x12 OR 8x10 and 9x12. I have the former and I actually like that combo better than the latter combination, but even the latter sounded fine. It's a subjective thing.

I think everyone has said their piece about 20x22 kick drums and I concur. 18x22 is the longest depth I'll do for a 22" bass drum, but recently I have been playing a kit with a 14x22 and it's the bees knees. So fun to play, it sounds better to my ear than my 18" depth bass drum, and it's that much easier to load into the vehicle after the gig is done.

As for floor toms, I like the shorter sustain of 12x14 and 14x16, but 14x14 and 16x16 is still good and actually preferable among many drummers. Yamaha sizes for floor toms (13x14 and 15x16 (length x diameter)) are what's available if you buy Yamaha. They don't do square or fast floor tom sizes, so you get what you get.

But another thing to think about is resale value. You'll buy a kit and after some time you'll say you want something different, or the same sizes but a different wood or wood combination (or acrylic, what have you). The overly custom sized kit will have trouble selling or selling quickly, as well as the custom bling finish or outlandish drum finish/hardware color combination. If you keep your sizes to a general size range that most of us drummers use, you will have better luck with resale of a kit if ever you have the need to sell it.

Bri6366
10-28-2016, 09:37 PM
Rack toms are too shallow and the kick is too deep.

sebco
10-30-2016, 10:11 AM
As for floor toms, I like the shorter sustain of 12x14 and 14x16, but 14x14 and 16x16 is still good and actually preferable among many drummers.

I found that with higher, resonant tunings the sustain gets longer with shorter depths, not the other way round. A 7x12 will have a longer sustain, but not a smuch tone/headroom as a 10x12.
7x10, 8x12,12x14, 14x16, 16x22 would be my choice. The deeper the bass drum , the heard you need to hit in order make it sound good. More low end, but less clear in the attack.
With a 14x22 , this would be a typicalSteve Gadd set-up, going back to the early 80s. No need to re-invent the wheel.

MitchLyons
10-30-2016, 10:27 AM
Get a 22x16. It's a misconception that deeper kicks make a drum cannon-like. It just means you have to play harder to get a strong sound out of it. C&C makes 12" deep kicks and I've been lusting for a 13/16/22 with a 12" deep kick

therocker
10-30-2016, 02:21 PM
I've had 2 22x18 kicks and 5 22x16 kicks. I couldn't really tell a huge difference in sound or playability. I like the look of the 18" depth and they seem to be a bit more tonal and the 16" a bit more punchy, but they were all 22" so not a vast difference.

I just wouldn't want to order a bunch of odd size drums just to be unique and then not like the sound of them or looks of them and then be stuck with a kit that no one wants because they are odd balls.

sticks4drums
10-30-2016, 02:52 PM
I've had 2 22x18 kicks and 5 22x16 kicks. I couldn't really tell a huge difference in sound or playability. I like the look of the 18" depth and they seem to be a bit more tonal and the 16" a bit more punchy, but they were all 22" so not a vast difference.

I just wouldn't want to order a bunch of odd size drums just to be unique and then not like the sound of them or looks of them and then be stuck with a kit that no one wants because they are odd balls.

Well said. I actually loved the sound and look, of my 22 x 20 Saturn kicks, but they aren't very practical for moving. A 14" and especially a 12" deep bass just looks cheap to me.

MitchLyons
10-30-2016, 06:12 PM
Well said. I actually loved the sound and look, of my 22 x 20 Saturn kicks, but they aren't very practical for moving. A 14" and especially a 12" deep bass just looks cheap to me.

This looks cheap to you?

therocker
10-30-2016, 09:15 PM
This looks cheap to you?

No offense, but kinda! It's all personal preference I guess but I don't like shallow kicks because they do look cheap. They may sound great I don't know.

MitchLyons
10-30-2016, 09:34 PM
No offense, but kinda! It's all personal preference I guess but I don't like shallow kicks because they do look cheap. They may sound great I don't know.

I totally disagree. I think it's super cool, and it's very classy. Sort of an homage to the super short, but very large bass drums from the 40's

therocker
10-30-2016, 09:51 PM
I totally disagree. I think it's super cool, and it's very classy. Sort of an homage to the super short, but very large bass drums from the 40's

They do look vintage. And that is a nice looking kit. The drum fact is that it takes all different sizes to make all different sounds. Circumference and depth. They all have their place in the drum community. Would I play that kit? Heck yeah! I'd imagine that bass drum could make a pretty nice thump!

2 basses4life
10-30-2016, 11:28 PM
im sorry ,but i find that kit ,less than awesome ....but hey , kudos, for bringing back the tame rockstar lugs ...lolhttps://www.pearldrummersforum.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

MattKeaton
10-31-2016, 12:28 AM
Fixed. :-) just kidding! ♡

I lol'ed.

Tasty808
10-31-2016, 12:50 AM
im sorry ,but i find that kit ,less than awesome ....but hey , kudos, for bringing back the tame rockstar lugs ...lolhttps://www.pearldrummersforum.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Did Tama use beavertail lugs? C&C designed their lugs to be a modern Art Deco throwback to the old Beavertail style.

https://instagram.com/p/mNpkLay9qD/

sticks4drums
10-31-2016, 06:19 AM
This looks cheap to you?

It would look like you borrowed your Grandfathers kit for the night. I get it. It is just another trend going around. Old is new again. I like it much better than their long single lug, long tension rod kits. Buy what you like, and don't worry about what others think about it.

sticks4drums
10-31-2016, 06:52 AM
I have the old school, four piece kit in my drum room. This is actually the real deal. 1940's Leedy kit. It has a cool vibe because it is actually old, not just pretending to be.

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa440/Sticks4drums/Restoring%20the%20old%20Leedy/IMG_3610_zps26f29800.jpg (http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/Sticks4drums/media/Restoring%20the%20old%20Leedy/IMG_3610_zps26f29800.jpg.html)

MitchLyons
10-31-2016, 07:23 AM
I have the old school, four piece kit in my drum room. This is actually the real deal. 1940's Leedy kit. It has a cool vibe because it is actually old, not just pretending to be.

God forbid someone wants a modern kit with a vintage vibe, burn them all!

korch
10-31-2016, 01:21 PM
I love the short toms, and I also love the idea of them being the same depth. I had a set of 8", 10", 12" toms, that were all 8" deep, and they looked great, and sounded fantastic. I have owned and played many 22" bass drums, and I think 18" is plenty deep. They sound powerful, and are easier to transport then a 20" deep drum. I have also played 22" x 16", and 22" x 14", and they also sound great.

drouyn
10-31-2016, 10:14 PM
I love the short toms, and I also love the idea of them being the same depth. I had a set of 8", 10", 12" toms, that were all 8" deep, and they looked great, and sounded fantastic. I have owned and played many 22" bass drums, and I think 18" is plenty deep. They sound powerful, and are easier to transport then a 20" deep drum. I have also played 22" x 16", and 22" x 14", and they also sound great.

Im wrapped with the amount of responses and opions im getting on this one! Keep it up! its good to see where every one is at!

redma61
11-01-2016, 06:11 PM
I'm getting curious as to what color your thinking of getting.
Do you have the option of getting black or nickle hardware.