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Derek Wolfford
01-21-2016, 04:40 PM
Pearl’s 70 years of drum craftsmanship culminate with the kit you’re ready to step up to. With 5.4mm Maple shells, pro-level features, and gorgeous lacquer finishes, Decade elevates your performance at a price that was previously impossible.

With feature-heavy shell packs starting at only $559 Street, Decade Maple drums are perfect as a primary kit for evolving players, or a secondary “gigging” kit for the seasoned pro.

BadAstronaut
01-21-2016, 05:15 PM
So ... this is a just new re-vamped version of the short lived Export ECX Maple series? :)

keaton_86
01-21-2016, 05:17 PM
They look nice, but why in gods name have you guys (pearl) put giant blue and red badges on everything? It clashes horribly with the finishes.

2 basses4life
01-21-2016, 05:40 PM
So ... this is a just new re-vamped version of the short lived Export ECX Maple series? :)

yes ...yes it is .. looks for epic facepalm pic...

Stuffed Chimp
01-22-2016, 12:24 AM
Will they be available in Europe? If so, I'm getting a yellow one!

How does that #228 solid yellow compare to the old #125 canary yellow?

Pepito Pérez
01-22-2016, 04:36 AM
With 5.4mm Maple shells, pro-level features, and gorgeous lacquer finishes, Decade elevates your performance at a price that was previously impossible.

Are those shells the same ones as the euro Masters Premium Legend's? It's the same thickness...

BadAstronaut
01-22-2016, 06:29 AM
Are those shells the same ones as the euro Masters Premium Legend's? It's the same thickness...not quite .. these shells use a lesser grade of Maple (cosmetic only) ... just like the short lived ECX series did

nova
01-22-2016, 07:51 PM
not quite .. these shells use a lesser grade of Maple (cosmetic only) ... just like the short lived ECX series did

I was thinking ECX all along but I had forgotten the name and called them the 1 year Maple Exports in my Masters Series before 2016 Review.

Master88
01-22-2016, 08:15 PM
Still think pearl needs a mid level all birch kit to compete with the Yamaha Stage Customs. Those kits were/are a hot seller for a lot of weekend warrior gigging drummers.. And do the job well. Maybe this "Decade" kit will get some looks from those looking for something in this price range.

vtdrumdude
01-22-2016, 08:26 PM
I think badges are much classier when plain metal or a solid color with writing. The blue really clashes...although for some reason I don't usually have the same reaction when I see a Ludwig B/O badge...but I love the old Keystones the best. I'm just a chrome/aluminum/brass badge kinda guy. I loved Pearl's badges in the 90's, even the 60's and 70's. It seems like everything these days is just getting "flashy." Besides the point though, seems like a nice kit for the money. I think my Session Customs are some of the best sounding drums I have ever owned, seems like these are the same idea but with thinner plies.

vtdrumdude
01-22-2016, 08:27 PM
Still think pearl needs a mid level all birch kit to compete with the Yamaha Stage Customs. Those kits were/are a hot seller for a lot of weekend warrior gigging drummers.. And do the job well. Maybe this "Decade" kit will get some looks from those looking for something in this price range.

They had the Vision Birch and apparently it wasn't selling well enough or they would still be doing it I guess?

LDdrummer
01-22-2016, 11:24 PM
They had the Vision Birch and apparently it wasn't selling well enough or they would still be doing it I guess?

I don't think it was selling good enough, of course that was most likely due to cost. I looked at them before getting a used masters, and street price for a 5 piece shell kit was 750-799. This series has the shell kit for 559 (according to Pearl). If the visions had been this price I think they would have sold a lot more of them.

Eliminator
01-23-2016, 05:49 AM
I don't think it was selling good enough, of course that was most likely due to cost. I looked at them before getting a used masters, and street price for a 5 piece shell kit was 750-799. This series has the shell kit for 559 (according to Pearl). If the visions had been this price I think they would have sold a lot more of them.

I think the price for a 5 piece shell kit will be similar to the Vision series pricing. The $559 price Pearl is throwing around is likely for the 3 piece DMP943XP/C kit.....

24x14 bass drum (no BB300 tom mount)
13x9 tom
16x16 floor tom
TH900S tom holder
ADP20 adapter

LDdrummer
01-23-2016, 08:28 AM
I found these prices on Sweetwater, who do not typically have the lowest available prices on Pearl gear:

7 piece kit, 8,10,12 toms, 14,16 floor toms, 22 kick, and snare for 899.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM7PC-RB/

5 piece kit, 10,12 toms, 16 floor, 22 kick, and snare for 699.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM5PC-SBR/

That's about 100 less than the visions went for, they were typically 799.99 for a 5 piece kit. Plus they offer the 7 piece kit in these that they did not in visions....that is the best deal. This is a direct competitor for the Tama superstar classic maple kits, same configs, same price points, etc. I am super glad to see it, this is a great value for what you get vs cost.

And you will be able to get them for less, I have never saw Sweetwater offer as low a prices as some of the other Pearl dealers, like Drumsonsale.com or others like them

DrumandFly
01-23-2016, 10:14 AM
I found these prices on Sweetwater, who do not typically have the lowest available prices on Pearl gear:

7 piece kit, 8,10,12 toms, 14,16 floor toms, 22 kick, and snare for 899.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM7PC-RB/

5 piece kit, 10,12 toms, 16 floor, 22 kick, and snare for 699.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM5PC-SBR/

That's about 100 less than the visions went for, they were typically 799.99 for a 5 piece kit. Plus they offer the 7 piece kit in these that they did not in visions....that is the best deal. This is a direct competitor for the Tama superstar classic maple kits, same configs, same price points, etc. I am super glad to see it, this is a great value for what you get vs cost.

And you will be able to get them for less, I have never saw Sweetwater offer as low a prices as some of the other Pearl dealers, like Drumsonsale.com or others like them

I wish the 22 kick didn't have the tom holders on it, shell pack anyway. That would be a great gig kit.

DrumandFly
01-23-2016, 10:25 AM
Is the DMP927SP/C really a 24 kick, or is it a misprint? The website has 24, sweetwater and the PDF Catalog has 22.

DMP927SP/C

24x18 bass drum
8x7 tom
10x7 tom
12x8 tom
14x14 floor tom
16x16 floor tom
14x6.5 snare drum
TH900I tom holder x 2
TH900S short tom holder
ADP20 adapter

LDdrummer
01-23-2016, 11:17 AM
Is the DMP927SP/C really a 24 kick, or is it a misprint? The website has 24, sweetwater and the PDF Catalog has 22. DMP927SP/C 24x18 bass drum 8x7 tom 10x7 tom 12x8 tom 14x14 floor tom 16x16 floor tom 14x6.5 snare drum TH900I tom holder x 2 TH900S short tom holder ADP20 adapter

I would go with the catalog, there have been multiple mistakes found on the web site with all the new gear and quick changes they tried to make.

Eliminator
01-23-2016, 01:01 PM
I found these prices on Sweetwater, who do not typically have the lowest available prices on Pearl gear:

7 piece kit, 8,10,12 toms, 14,16 floor toms, 22 kick, and snare for 899.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM7PC-RB/

5 piece kit, 10,12 toms, 16 floor, 22 kick, and snare for 699.00

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM5PC-SBR/

That's about 100 less than the visions went for, they were typically 799.99 for a 5 piece kit. Plus they offer the 7 piece kit in these that they did not in visions....that is the best deal. This is a direct competitor for the Tama superstar classic maple kits, same configs, same price points, etc. I am super glad to see it, this is a great value for what you get vs cost.

And you will be able to get them for less, I have never saw Sweetwater offer as low a prices as some of the other Pearl dealers, like Drumsonsale.com or others like them

$900 for a Pearl 7 piece maple kit.....that's seems like pretty good pricing and aimed right at the Tama Superstar Classic and Hyperdrive kits.

Derek Wolfford
01-23-2016, 03:08 PM
Is the DMP927SP/C really a 24 kick, or is it a misprint? The website has 24, sweetwater and the PDF Catalog has 22.

22" is correct... :)

rollracer
01-23-2016, 09:10 PM
what,'s the problem with the blue printed badge?

i might be insensitive to the badges aesthetic factor, i so don't care about badges , and this new badge design isn't disturbing at all imo lol.

what i think is there should be an option regarding square or oval badges. the square badge complement well the square lugs, and the oval one goes well with the reference style lugs.

LDdrummer
01-23-2016, 09:28 PM
I have seen badges that are A LOT uglier than all these new ones from Pearl. I agree, I have seen some better, and I still have a soft spot for the older square badges. But I won't let a badge be the only factor that keeps me from a good set of drums of any kind.

Then again, I am in the minority that likes the Masters "baseball" badges. Like I said, the square masters from the early years is still my favorite, but I like mine pretty good :)

Genius Switch
01-24-2016, 06:20 AM
I want to see a close up of the lugs. The lighting in the stock photo gives the illusion that they are crooked. I know this is not the case but I'm still interested to see the actual lug design. The same thing caught my eye a few years back on those Dixon Artisan drums.

Also, R.I.P. to I.S.S. mounts. I think the only product that may still come equipped with them is that one piccolo effect snare and that one timbale.

Derek Wolfford
01-24-2016, 07:30 AM
I want to see a close up of the lugs. The lighting in the stock photo gives the illusion that they are crooked. I know this is not the case but I'm still interested to see the actual lug design.

Hope this helps...

BadAstronaut
01-24-2016, 07:41 AM
Also, R.I.P. to I.S.S. mounts.good riddance .. :D

Eliminator
01-24-2016, 08:15 AM
IMO dumping the Vision line name was a mistake. It's been around since 2008? and is quite popular in my neck of the woods (I know of at least 3 people playing Visions in pubs/bars in my area).

Pearl could have used this opportunity to replace the Vision birch with maple. The auto industry has proven time and time again it's better to keep old names alive rather that start fresh, especially in the entry level products.

Eliminator
01-24-2016, 08:18 AM
I want to see a close up of the lugs. The lighting in the stock photo gives the illusion that they are crooked. I know this is not the case but I'm still interested to see the actual lug design. The same thing caught my eye a few years back on those Dixon Artisan drums.

From a distance, they remind me of the Tama Starclassic lugs

hwy 49
01-24-2016, 08:31 AM
Those Lugs and Badges are just Butt Ugly!

sticks4drums
01-24-2016, 08:48 AM
Well Pearl looks to be copying the Sonor tom mount, and very similar to the Mapex tom mount. These new mounts look way better than the mounts used on their higher end drums. Hopefully they will use this same mount on all their drums. You can barely tell it is even on the drum. Actually surprised that they can copy the other mounts so closely without legal issues. I know they got all upset at Mapex when the new Falcon pedal came out with multiple cams for the pedal. Mapex had to drop the multiple cam idea.

BadAstronaut
01-24-2016, 08:51 AM
IMO dumping the Vision line name was a mistake. It's been around since 2008? and is quite popular in my neck of the woods (I know of at least 3 people playing Visions in pubs/bars in my area).3 people is popular? .. lol .. Sales numbers don't lie .. if they weren't selling well/meeting the quota then they'll be dumped and replaced with a different series. It's simple business math.


Pearl could have used this opportunity to replace the Vision birch with maple. The auto industry has proven time and time again it's better to keep old names alive rather that start fresh, especially in the entry level products.Visions isn't an old name .. Export, Session and Masters are 3 names most drummer knows/associates with and are WAY older than Visions .. export and session names have been around since 80's .. Masters since 90's .. but I get what you're saying .. who knows .. maybe after a year or 2 they'll bring back Visions if demand is there

Eliminator
01-24-2016, 12:34 PM
3 people is popular? .. lol .. Sales numbers don't lie .. if they weren't selling well/meeting the quota then they'll be dumped and replaced with a different series. It's simple business math.

Visions isn't an old name .. Export, Session and Masters are 3 names most drummer knows/associates with and are WAY older than Visions .. export and session names have been around since 80's .. Masters since 90's .. but I get what you're saying .. who knows .. maybe after a year or 2 they'll bring back Visions if demand is there

3 ppl is plenty for the area I live in. You could probably stuff every drummer within a 100 mile radius into a Greyhound bus.

I'm sure there are many reason why Pearl decided to add a new line. The sub-$1000 point is a very competitive range. I just find it odd they chose to kill off a name line with 8 years of "history" behind it. Sure, it's nothing like Export, Session, Masters name recognition....but gotta start somewhere. (Remember, these are the same folks that decided to kill off the Export and Sessions lines, only to bring them back.)

Josh Conover
01-24-2016, 03:40 PM
I would go with the catalog, there have been multiple mistakes found on the web site with all the new gear and quick changes they tried to make.


22" is correct... :)

Isn't this a 24" kick? I figured the Decade maple would only put 10 lugs per side on a 24" kick. Much like the Vision and Exports.

LDdrummer
01-24-2016, 03:57 PM
Isn't this a 24" kick? I figured the Decade maple would only put 10 lugs per side on a 24" kick. Much like the Vision and Exports.

You are correct, that is a 24", the 22 only has 8 lugs. There is a shell pack that is a 3 piece with 24 kick, 13" rack, and 16" floor (DMP943XP/C kit config).

There are 2 5-piece kit configs, 20-10-12-14-14 and 22-10-12-16-14, the 3 piece as mentioned with no snare, and a 7 piece 22-8-10-12-14-16-14.

If I had not scored a used masters premium before Christmas then this is definitely the series I would be looking at if buying new. I was considering the Tama superstar classics because it was maple shells with nice hardware and finishes for a great price. These lacquer kits beat their prices by about 100.00 per equivalent setup.

BadAstronaut
01-25-2016, 07:31 AM
3 ppl is plenty for the area I live in. You could probably stuff every drummer within a 100 mile radius into a Greyhound bus.

I'm sure there are many reason why Pearl decided to add a new line. The sub-$1000 point is a very competitive range. I just find it odd they chose to kill off a name line with 8 years of "history" behind it. Sure, it's nothing like Export, Session, Masters name recognition....but gotta start somewhere. (Remember, these are the same folks that decided to kill off the Export and Sessions lines, only to bring them back.)Yeah I hear ya .. killing Export and Session line did damage but they redeemed themselves when they brought them back .. might be a few years but they might bring back the Vision line if the demand is there

LDdrummer
01-25-2016, 07:32 AM
Great video of the Decade Maples and Dennis Chambers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQXZL0VKpbk&src_vid=C-TXra3FmRY&annotation_id=554a087b-0000-2771-8f98-001a1149ce7c&feature=iv

MWRushR40
01-25-2016, 07:45 AM
Great video of the Decade Maples and Dennis Chambers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQXZL0VKpbk&src_vid=C-TXra3FmRY&annotation_id=554a087b-0000-2771-8f98-001a1149ce7c&feature=iv

Great video. Just wished he would have showcased the toms a bit more. Wasn't expecting to see a gong drum available in this series (although maybe it was custom for him). Seems like a great set of drums at an affordable price, especially for gigging or beginners.

LDdrummer
01-25-2016, 07:52 AM
Great video. Just wished he would have showcased the toms a bit more. Wasn't expecting to see a gong drum available in this series (although maybe it was custom for him). Seems like a great set of drums at an affordable price, especially for gigging or beginners.

I'd wager to bet the gong was a custom deal for Dennis, but you never know, those seem to be a popular item these days ;) The price is fantastic for what you get. If I were in the market for a new kit, this would be on the top of my list.

rollracer
01-25-2016, 09:46 AM
sorry but this video is worthless in the optic of listening to the drums. he barely touches the toms,how can we appreciate the tonal aspect of the whole kit?

LDdrummer
01-25-2016, 11:13 AM
sorry but this video is worthless in the optic of listening to the drums. he barely touches the toms,how can we appreciate the tonal aspect of the whole kit?

Good point....the kick is what got me....I really like it and it has the character I expect to hear from a kick. Of course 99% of the sound here could be the player as well :) I would like to hear some of the demos the better known drum shops do to get a real world sound of the kit!

AL PERCIVAL
01-25-2016, 11:54 AM
I'd wager to bet the gong was a custom deal for Dennis, but you never know, those seem to be a popular item these days ;) The price is fantastic for what you get. If I were in the market for a new kit, this would be on the top of my list.

We're trying to see if we can get the gong drum as a part of the Decade series. Still waiting to hear from the factory.

jbfan
01-26-2016, 11:08 AM
sorry but this video is worthless in the optic of listening to the drums. he barely touches the toms,how can we appreciate the tonal aspect of the whole kit?

Guitar Center uploaded a video of the entire kit being played:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFD6b2-XmY

sticks4drums
01-26-2016, 11:33 AM
We're trying to see if we can get the gong drum as a part of the Decade series. Still waiting to hear from the factory.

Well from my recent experience with Mapex, the factory doesn't really listen to what Mapex USA has to say anymore. Hopefully you guys have a bit more influence with Pearl.

LDdrummer
01-26-2016, 11:56 AM
Guitar Center uploaded a video of the entire kit being played:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFD6b2-XmY

Thanks! I had not saw that video....it really shows off the drums pretty good. I really like what I am seeing of them!

rollracer
01-26-2016, 06:05 PM
Guitar Center uploaded a video of the entire kit being played:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFD6b2-XmY

on this recording, the kit sounds absolutely great. there was another vids right after that with the yammie recording custom 2016 demo kit....the pearl kit sounded so much better . i mean, so MUCH better.

woodchuck
01-27-2016, 08:53 AM
Hi people, the Pearl Decade seems to be a really good kit! I am curious to know with a Pearl Rep advice if it´s the Decade is a better kit than the old ECX Maple kit. Asking that because I own two Tom ECX (13-16) And I had so good comments from sound engineers on "professionnal" high level gig. On the video it sounds very good!

Thank you!

AL PERCIVAL
01-27-2016, 10:01 AM
Hi people, the Pearl Decade seems to be a really good kit! I am curious to know with a Pearl Rep advice if it´s the Decade is a better kit than the old ECX Maple kit. Asking that because I own two Tom ECX (13-16) And I had so good comments from sound engineers on "professionnal" high level gig. On the video it sounds very good!

Thank you!

The Decade shell is slightly different than the 2007 ECX shell. The ECX was 6-ply 7.5mm. The Decade is Ultra thin 5.4mm shell thickness EvenPly-Six maple shell.

Kiwi
01-27-2016, 10:10 AM
sorry but this video is worthless in the optic of listening to the drums. he barely touches the toms,how can we appreciate the tonal aspect of the whole kit?

Love Dennis, but I agree. The video showcased a snare drum. He didn't even hit a tom till after half the track, and even then very sparsely. He may as well have been playing a 4 piece! Yes okay, it is promotional, and I guess some kids would get excited thinking "I can get ALL THAT for under 700 bucks!!" ;)

BadAstronaut
01-27-2016, 10:35 AM
The Decade shell is slightly different than the 2007 ECX shell. The ECX was 6-ply 7.5mm. The Decade is Ultra thin 5.4mm shell thickness EvenPly-Six maple shell.So the Decade Maple and MCT Masters are the same 5.4mm Rock Maple shells .. just different grade of Maple used .. correct?

AL PERCIVAL
01-27-2016, 11:25 AM
So the Decade Maple and MCT Masters are the same 5.4mm Rock Maple shells .. just different grade of Maple used .. correct?

MCT Complete - is North American Maple Ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness
Decade - Asian Maple ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness - sounds and looks killer. The outer veneer is amazing (see below)

BadAstronaut
01-27-2016, 11:54 AM
MCT Complete - is North American Maple Ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness
Decade - Asian Maple ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness - sounds and looks killer. The outer veneer is amazing (see below)thanks Al .. so the Decade Maple is Asian Maple .. cheaper and much softer than Rock/Sugar Maple .. Did the ECX series use Asian Maple also?

Outer veneer looks pretty good from what I can see

Edit: nevermind Al .. I knew I thought I saw it posted where ECX were same shell as Sessions which in turn was North American Maple

Quote Originally Posted by AL PERCIVAL

Fact: The ECX maple is the "exact" same shell used on the Session kits

jbfan
01-27-2016, 12:07 PM
MCT Complete - is North American Maple Ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness
Decade - Asian Maple ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness - sounds and looks killer. The outer veneer is amazing (see below)

They may not be the "Top of the line" but I am super excited to move up to these from my 2003 Exports! Thanks Al for all of the good advice in my "decision making" process.
Patiently waiting.....

dale w miller
01-27-2016, 01:23 PM
I don't think it was selling good enough, of course that was most likely due to cost. I looked at them before getting a used masters, and street price for a 5 piece shell kit was 750-799. This series has the shell kit for 559 (according to Pearl). If the visions had been this price I think they would have sold a lot more of them.

Not any negativity towards you, but this is a key reason why the drum industry is in the state it is today. Unlike 20 years, there are so many top of the line kits floating around in great condition at great prices. It's to the point if you have a limited budget, it almost seems foolish to buy new.

dale w miller
01-27-2016, 01:40 PM
IMO dumping the Vision line name was a mistake. It's been around since 2008? and is quite popular in my neck of the woods (I know of at least 3 people playing Visions in pubs/bars in my area). Pearl could have used this opportunity to replace the Vision birch with maple. The auto industry has proven time and time again it's better to keep old names alive rather that start fresh, especially in the entry level products.

Many of you said the very same thing on this forum when the Vision line replaced the Sessions.

LDdrummer
01-27-2016, 01:42 PM
Not any negativity towards you, but this is a key reason why the drum industry is in the state it is today. Unlike 20 years, there are so many top of the line kits floating around in great condition at great prices. It's to the point if you have a limited budget, it almost seems foolish to buy new.

No offense taken, because you are spot on. The convenience and availability that came with the internet led to a major change in purchasing. Before it was this easy, there were no new kits. I live 2 hours from any even respectable music stores, and the jokes that call themselves music stores close don't even carry used gear. So not that long ago, I bought new or I didn't buy...it was all mail order gear, there was no used with that setup either. And all the closest stores ever carried was semi pro gear like Decade Maples or Sessions at that time. No one ever had MLX or Masters kits on the sales floor.

I got a Masters Premium kit, from Connecticut shipped to me, and because GC had no idea what masters premium meant they had it listed as a MCX kit, so I got a major deal. It wouldn't have happened without the availability via the Internet.

LDdrummer
01-27-2016, 01:53 PM
Many of you said the very same thing on this forum when the Vision line replaced the Sessions.

I am sentimental to a point and hate to see names/lines that you get attached to go away, but for me, as long as the quality of product is still there I don't particularly care what the name is :) I would be just as happy about a Decade Maple vs a Vision vs a Session.

pearlygates
01-31-2016, 08:07 AM
.......With 5.4mm Maple shells.....
No doubt Chinese grown maple at this price, but still...this is the norm for budget kits in this realm. 5.4mm... hmmm, interested. As a side note, the long defunct Export Maple used the same 7.?mm MCX shells...correct? If so, the Decades are indeed a different beast.

Whoops.. Missed like 4 plus pages of discussion about shells. DOH!

Eliminator
01-31-2016, 08:52 PM
Interestingly, the 2016 MSRP price list has the Decade 5-piece shell pack at $200 less than a 5-piece Vision shell-pack (2015).

I wonder where the $200 savings stems from? New shell hardware? Wood costs? Less profit?

Master88
02-01-2016, 03:19 PM
Interestingly, the 2016 MSRP price list has the Decade 5-piece shell pack at $200 less than a 5-piece Vision shell-pack (2015). I wonder where the $200 savings stems from? New shell hardware? Wood costs? Less profit?

Or over mark up on the visions possibly?

Genius Switch
02-01-2016, 04:41 PM
The hardware on Decade did strike me as being a little less substantial than the Vision, i.e. smaller lugs, same FT brackets and bass spurs as Export, standard snare strainer rather than the Duo strainer from Vision.

Josh Conover
02-01-2016, 11:08 PM
The hardware on Decade did strike me as being a little less substantial than the Vision, i.e. smaller lugs, same FT brackets and bass spurs as Export, standard snare strainer rather than the Duo strainer from Vision.

This.

The new Exports have become the Forum series.

The decade maple is a new Export with maple shells. The lugs are the same spacing and they only use 6 lugs per side on the floor toms. That's a disappointment to me.

I made mention of the fact (two years ago) that the Export line is essentially a much nicer Forum series. At the very least, the older Exports and Vision line used bigger (interchangeable) lugs and 8 per side on the 16" floor toms.

dale w miller
02-02-2016, 05:15 AM
This. The new Exports have become the Forum series.

This is what they were when they first came out. This is why I was so surprised how highly regarded they were in this forum when I first signed on.

AL PERCIVAL
02-03-2016, 07:39 AM
Interestingly, the 2016 MSRP price list has the Decade 5-piece shell pack at $200 less than a 5-piece Vision shell-pack (2015).

wonder where the $200 savings stems from? New shell hardware? Wood costs? Less profit?

...... because we love you! :D :D :D

LDdrummer
02-03-2016, 07:52 AM
The decade maple is a new Export with maple shells. The lugs are the same spacing and they only use 6 lugs per side on the floor toms. That's a disappointment to me.

Overall I am super pleased with the decade maple....except for this fact. I can accept the 1.6mm hoops, the kicks only having 8 lugs instead of 10, and the other factors that save on the cost...but I do not like that the floor toms only have 6 lugs per side. I did not notice that until you pointed it out. The older exports (both years I have owned) had 8 per side as well as the vision kits. The visions even had 8 on the 14" toms as well, while the export 14" only had 6.

The Tama superstar classic, which is their equivalent kit, has 6 lugs on the 14" floor and 8 lugs on the 16" floor. Just for comparison sake. I still love the finishes of the decade maples and I like everything else about them.

G The Drummer
02-03-2016, 02:00 PM
Overall I am super pleased with the decade maple....except for this fact. I can accept the 1.6mm hoops, the kicks only having 8 lugs instead of 10, and the other factors that save on the cost...but I do not like that the floor toms only have 6 lugs per side. I did not notice that until you pointed it out. The older exports (both years I have owned) had 8 per side as well as the vision kits. The visions even had 8 on the 14" toms as well, while the export 14" only had 6. The Tama superstar classic, which is their equivalent kit, has 6 lugs on the 14" floor and 8 lugs on the 16" floor. Just for comparison sake. I still love the finishes of the decade maples and I like everything else about them.
I agree. I really wanted to get Optis for my Export Lacquer FT but they only have 6 lugs! :( It is awesome though that we can now get a Maple kit from Pearl for almost the same price as the Exports.

BadAstronaut
02-04-2016, 09:36 AM
Overall I am super pleased with the decade maple....except for this fact. I can accept the 1.6mm hoops, the kicks only having 8 lugs instead of 10, and the other factors that save on the cost...but I do not like that the floor toms only have 6 lugs per side. the 24" kick has 10 :D ... and yeah 6 lug floor toms is absurd .. exports always had 8 .

pearlygates
02-04-2016, 10:16 AM
Maybe I missed this, but when will these kits be available?

AL PERCIVAL
02-04-2016, 11:39 AM
Maybe I missed this, but when will these kits be available?

We actually have some DMP905P/C (2016B/1007T/1208T/1414F/1455S) in stock now in finishes white satin pearl, satin brown burst, satin blackburst and gloss deep redburst.

The following are on the water and should be here mid-February:

DMP927SP/C

8x7T
10x7T
12x8T
14x14FT
16x16FT
22x18BD
14x5.5 SD
List USD $1499

DMP925SP/C

10x7T
12x8T
16x16FT
22x18BD
14x5.5 SD
List USD $1159

DMP943XP/C
*** The Killer size setup ***

13x9T
16x16FT
24x14BD

List USD $939

big daddy cool
02-04-2016, 04:25 PM
Almost killer size!!!

big daddy cool
02-04-2016, 04:28 PM
Sorry.... I had to!

pearlygates
02-07-2016, 07:54 AM
We actually have some DMP905P/C (2016B/1007T/1208T/1414F/1455S) in stock now in finishes white satin pearl, satin brown burst, satin blackburst and gloss deep redburst.

The following are on the water and should be here mid-February:

DMP927SP/C

8x7T
10x7T
12x8T
14x14FT
16x16FT
22x18BD
14x5.5 SD
List USD $1499

DMP925SP/C

10x7T
12x8T
16x16FT
22x18BD
14x5.5 SD
List USD $1159

DMP943XP/C
*** The Killer size setup ***

13x9T
16x16FT
24x14BD

List USD $939
Thanks Al. Gotta make a trip to the LDS today. Gonna check into it. The 905P/C would make a tidy kit for utility work.

jdtdrums
02-07-2016, 09:28 AM
Almost killer size!!!

Hahahaha!!

nova
02-25-2016, 08:37 PM
Will they be available in Europe? If so, I'm getting a yellow one!

How does that #228 solid yellow compare to the old #125 canary yellow?

And look at how well that turned out for you!

Feenix
02-26-2016, 03:04 PM
MCT Complete - is North American Maple Ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness
Decade - Asian Maple ultra thin Even-Ply Six 5.4mm thickness - sounds and looks killer. The outer veneer is amazing (see below)
Wouldn't ultra thin plies mean more laminations, more glue, and less wood?


No doubt Chinese grown maple at this price, but still...this is the norm for budget kits in this realm. 5.4mm... hmmm, interested. As a side note, the long defunct Export Maple used the same 7.?mm MCX shells...correct? If so, the Decades are indeed a different beast.
What happened to your Saturns?

Drum313
02-27-2016, 11:20 PM
Wouldn't ultra thin plies mean more laminations, more glue, and less wood?

Yes, yes, and yes.

AL PERCIVAL
02-29-2016, 09:29 AM
Will they be available in Europe? If so, I'm getting a yellow one!

How does that #228 solid yellow compare to the old #125 canary yellow?

Canary Yellow is slightly darker shade than #228 solid yellow.

Stuffed Chimp
02-29-2016, 10:36 AM
Canary Yellow is slightly darker shade than #228 solid yellow.

Perfect. I'll pick one up as a gigging kit when they become available on this side of the pond.

That's almost an exact match to my #350 yellow sparkle shade-wise, just minus the sparkles!

AL PERCIVAL
02-29-2016, 11:05 AM
Perfect. I'll pick one up as a gigging kit when they become available on this side of the pond.

That's almost an exact match to my #350 yellow sparkle shade-wise, just minus the sparkles!

Very close I'd say obviously without the sparkles.

PearlDrummer2016
03-11-2016, 09:05 AM
492267492268 My new Pearl Decade in Red Burst! If your in the states please order from Tim Holsinger at Sweetwater ext. 1666 and tell him Josh Anderson sent you! He hooked me up with overnight shipping!

paradiddlediddle666
03-11-2016, 11:29 AM
I saw the 13/16/24 shell pack in Solid Yellow up close at my local drum shop last night. I never thought I'd say this but...the Solid Yellow is really nice in person...kinda reminds me of a giant, baby chick! I gave the 14x24 kick a slight 'thwack' with the back of my hand and was immediately impressed by the sound. I may have to re-think my opinion of 24" kicks!

The overall fit and finish was quite nice...much better than I was expecting at that price point! Not to sound like a noob...but, Does 6 lugs per side on the 16" make that big of a difference? At the very worst, I'd think that it would mean that you'd need to make some additional turns with your drum key at each tension rod to dial in your desired tuning, no? If so, That's not exactly what I'd call a 'deal-breaker'.

pearlygates
03-13-2016, 05:58 AM
Nice looking kit! I love the fact that Pearl made the jump into a thinner shell all maple kit in an affordable (for most) mid price point!
When it comes to quality builds and customer service...Pearl got that. Congrats on a killer looking set up!

PearlDrummer2016
03-15-2016, 09:10 AM
Ya actually I don't notice much of a difference from 8 to 6 lugs on the floor tom. My last kit had 8 lugs on the 14' and 16' floor toms and it almost bothered me having to tune them all equally. especially if you like low tuned floor toms, with that many lugs theres more of a chance for one lug to fall loose sooner. I actually like the 6 lugs because like the last guy said, slightly more tension per lug so you can tune ultra low and the tuning rods have adequate tension and hold the tuning much better. IMO Also yes the thinner shells were an easy done deal for me to order the Decade. Pearl hasn't done the thin shells before and I love it. They sound great. Ill be posting some youtube vids soon

HBG1989
03-15-2016, 09:26 AM
Ya actually I don't notice much of a difference from 8 to 6 lugs on the floor tom. My last kit had 8 lugs on the 14' and 16' floor toms and it almost bothered me having to tune them all equally. especially if you like low tuned floor toms, with that many lugs theres more of a chance for one lug to fall loose sooner. I actually like the 6 lugs because like the last guy said, slightly more tension per lug so you can tune ultra low and the tuning rods have adequate tension and hold the tuning much better. IMO Also yes the thinner shells were an easy done deal for me to order the Decade. Pearl hasn't done the thin shells before and I love it. They sound great. Ill be posting some youtube vids soon

Weren't the Pearl Masters Custom (MMX) thinner maple shells? I thought they were 4 ply 5mm shells with reinforcement rings. These are 6 ply 5.4mm so slightly thicker. I have an MMX and it is by far the best kit I've ever played on. I get compliments on it all the time at gigs!

I am impressed at this kits price point though, thin maple shells at that price? Pearl has not offered thin maple at this price, that is impressive!

AL PERCIVAL
03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
Weren't the Pearl Masters Custom (MMX) thinner maple shells? I thought they were 4 ply 5mm shells with reinforcement rings. These are 6 ply 5.4mm so slightly thicker. I have an MMX and it is by far the best kit I've ever played on. I get compliments on it all the time at gigs!

I am impressed at this kits price point though, thin maple shells at that price? Pearl has not offered thin maple at this price, that is impressive!

Did you checkout the inside shell? The insides are treated the way the old Masters MMX used to be hand polished interior and edges.

paradiddlediddle666
03-21-2016, 08:16 AM
Did you checkout the inside shell? The insides are treated the way the old Masters MMX used to be hand polished interior and edges.

I stopped by Drums Etc. this past weekend and stuck my hand inside the bass drum port to see for myself. Yep...nice and smooth! I'm amazed how nicely-done these kits are!

Pearlplayer1990
05-04-2016, 08:36 PM
these are really nice kits for the buck the only thing I don't like is the Opti-Lock tom mount bottom part that is drilled directly into the shell..... I would get one if all the tom's were virgin and not internal mounted to the shell..... Caused i'd want to go 22,13,16 an mount 13" on a snare stand.. I played one at my local GC an fell in love...

Josh Conover
05-05-2016, 01:13 AM
these are really nice kits for the buck the only thing I don't like is the Opti-Lock tom mount bottom part that is drilled directly into the shell..... I would get one if all the tom's were virgin and not internal mounted to the shell..... Caused i'd want to go 22,13,16 an mount 13" on a snare stand.. I played one at my local GC an fell in love...

It's easily removable via drum key. It uses one of two air vents located on either side of the badge. When removed, the drum is essentially "virgin".

Pearlplayer1990
05-06-2016, 08:11 AM
Oh that's cool then I might consider one of these in the future..... :)

nova
06-13-2016, 01:17 PM
Why no wraps? This kit would be great to gig but a Canary Yellow wrap would stand a better chance of not getting scratched.

TIMMY!!!
06-15-2016, 07:56 PM
They look nice, but why in gods name have you guys (pearl) put giant blue and red badges on everything? It clashes horribly with the finishes.

Agreed keaton_86, I don't understand why drum companies do this to such an otherwise beautiful instrument. My solution with my Pearl Export ELX's was to retrofit them with Gauger RIMS Alloy Pro mounts and used the mounting bracket to hide them. Just also found out Mr. Gauger is going to stop making his excellent suspension mounts when I visited his site to get the correct name of my mounts...very bummed about that development for sure. :(

AL PERCIVAL
06-16-2016, 06:28 AM
Why no wraps? This kit would be great to gig but a Canary Yellow wrap would stand a better chance of not getting scratched.


stay tuned..................... :D

AL PERCIVAL
06-23-2016, 06:10 AM
...... speaking of Decade Maple in wrapped finishes.............

Available in September 2016 - Debuting @Summer NAMM today and here is your first glimpse........... :D

#712 Ocean Galaxy Flake
#714 Slate Galaxy Flake
#713 Crimson Galaxy Flake

AL PERCIVAL
06-23-2016, 07:10 AM
I'll be the first to say that the slate galaxy flake looks alot like comet sparkle without the color confetti flakes. Looks pretty cool in person!

MWRushR40
06-23-2016, 07:16 AM
...... speaking of Decade Maple in wrapped finishes............. Available in September 2016 - Debuting @Summer NAMM today and here is your first glimpse........... :D #712 Ocean Galaxy Flake #714 Slate Galaxy Flake #713 Crimson Galaxy Flake

Nice!!!

LDdrummer
06-23-2016, 07:38 AM
Absolutely love the ocean galaxy flake! Stunning finishes, this will add value to those who gig a lot and want the added durability!

AL PERCIVAL
06-23-2016, 07:43 AM
Absolutely love the ocean galaxy flake! Stunning finishes, this will add value to those who gig a lot and want the added durability!

pretty much what everybody was saying and why we're doing it! :D

AL PERCIVAL
06-23-2016, 12:12 PM
Better Close-Up pics from the Summer NAMM booth

nova
06-25-2016, 01:21 AM
I'll be the first to say that the slate galaxy flake looks a lot like comet sparkle without the color confetti flakes. Looks pretty cool in person!

Those are so good looking! I got to play one at the local GC, and they sound as good as they look! I love the Galaxy Ocean Flake, and the other 2 too. I also love the Yellow Lacquer finish; and the others too. Great idea Pearl and very competitive plus over similar offers by the other companies. Win Again! These two are so sweet!

paradiddlediddle666
06-25-2016, 08:31 AM
I’m really digging the Ocean Galaxy Flake! Too bad there isn’t a 3-piece shell-pack with a 22” kick being offered. That would be sweet!

AL PERCIVAL
06-27-2016, 08:51 AM
THIS JUST IN....................Great NEWS!!!!

We will now make available by special order - Decade Maple "Gong Drums"
U.S. List $520

DMP2014G/C227
DMP2014G/C228
DMP2014G/C229
DMP2014G/C260
DMP2014G/C221
DMP2014G/C262

MWRushR40
06-27-2016, 08:57 AM
THIS JUST IN....................Great NEWS!!!! We will now make available by special order - Decade Maple "Gong Drums" U.S. List $520 DMP2014G/C227 DMP2014G/C228 DMP2014G/C229 DMP2014G/C260 DMP2014G/C221 DMP2014G/C262

Awesome! This line has really taken some serious leaps and bounds over the past week!

(waiting for the anti-gong drum enthusiasts to share their thoughts.... :rolleyes: )

big daddy cool
06-27-2016, 09:03 AM
AL... How about the ..this just in 26!!??
Hook me up and I am ordering a triple bass kit today!

AL PERCIVAL
06-27-2016, 09:21 AM
AL... How about the ..this just in 26!!??
Hook me up and I am ordering a triple bass kit today!

sorry 24" not a 26" in DMP.

big daddy cool
06-27-2016, 09:36 AM
Just tell pmi. It's for tommy. I will have it in 2 weeks!

pearlygates
07-11-2016, 05:25 AM
Very intriguing.. These Decade maples.. For a low/mid priced kit with nice thin maple shells, this looks like a hit!

nova
08-05-2016, 12:44 PM
2 weeks ago I played the Piano Black Decade Maple at our local GC. These drums sound really good and the Piano Black finish is classic! I want a set of these and they would take my old Exports and JJ sig snare in trade plus give me 10% off of the $699.00 price. The snare drum sounds fantastic and the double Demonater pedal also sounds really good. But alas; I am retired and stretching the money is difficult already. I have the Exports to play at the Picnic August 20th in Alvarado Park and now I'm a little more worried about me over heating. The truly great thing about Exports is there is no worry involved. I still want this kit but I probably wouldn't want to take it to a Park gig in August in NM either! I think that the Piano Black is a Musiciansfriend and GC exclusive. They stay on my mind. :cool:

croomz
08-05-2016, 04:32 PM
How many lugs are on each drum?

Josh Conover
08-06-2016, 12:25 AM
How many lugs are on each drum?

The 14" and 16" floor only have 6 lugs per side. The 22" kick has only 8 lugs per side. The 24" kick is virgin and has 10 lugs per side.

As a side note, I'm pretty sure the lug hole spacing is the same as the Export series lugs and uses the same style mounts (and legs?)... To my eyes I see a Forum series kit made with maple shells. Which is great for somebody just getting into drums or even the "weekend warrior".

I'd get a kit if the floor toms had 8 lugs per side or I could get a virgin 20" kick.

TinaTawdre
08-24-2016, 12:05 AM
When will the #714 Slate Galaxy Flake finish be available. I'm told by local Guitar Center its not out yet. Haven't been able to find it online either.

TinaTawdre
08-24-2016, 12:11 AM
Oops, missed page 8 of this thread. Al Percival says in his messages #90 and 91 that this should be available in September.

Sorry. :confused:

PearlDrummer505
09-07-2016, 06:01 PM
Any word on when in September these kits are shipping?

AL PERCIVAL
09-08-2016, 04:07 PM
Any word on when in September these kits are shipping?

If we get them mid September they should hit the stores end of September. Contact your favorite authorized Pearl dealer.

PearlDrummer505
10-05-2016, 10:13 AM
If we get them mid September they should hit the stores end of September. Contact your favorite authorized Pearl dealer.

Are all the sizes releasing, I am looking for a 20 inch bass drum.

therocker
10-05-2016, 05:47 PM
I found these prices on Sweetwater, who do not typically have the lowest available prices on Pearl gear: 7 piece kit, 8,10,12 toms, 14,16 floor toms, 22 kick, and snare for 899.00 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM7PC-RB/ 5 piece kit, 10,12 toms, 16 floor, 22 kick, and snare for 699.00 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM5PC-SBR/ That's about 100 less than the visions went for, they were typically 799.99 for a 5 piece kit. Plus they offer the 7 piece kit in these that they did not in visions....that is the best deal. This is a direct competitor for the Tama superstar classic maple kits, same configs, same price points, etc. I am super glad to see it, this is a great value for what you get vs cost. And you will be able to get them for less, I have never saw Sweetwater offer as low a prices as some of the other Pearl dealers, like Drumsonsale.com or others like them

Looking at Drumsonsale.com now. 5 piece Decade Maple $699.00 - 7 piece $899.00.

GC . 5 piece DM. $699.00 7 piece $ 899.00

Dales drum shop. Not offered. No Pearl drums at all.

Memphis Drum Shop. Decade Maple not offered. But the Pearl drums they do have are spot on pricing with competitors. Such as the Crystal Beats. 4 piece $1099.00. Same as every where.

Musicians Friend. Decade Maple 5 piece..... Drum roll please.... $699.00 7 piece $899.00!

I guess the only difference is The shipping. GC and MF offer free shipping. I know. The others I'm not sure of.

Also all finishes may not be available through all dealers.

GC will buy your used stuff or take advantage of the trade in - trade up. And use that toward the purchase of the new kit.

I guess I'm just pointing out that no one has a BETTER deal than the other.

And if they can beat GC prices, I believe I just read the other day that they will match any competitors prices.

LDdrummer
10-05-2016, 06:59 PM
I have seen specials pop up on occasion in sales emails and such listed the 5 piece for 599.99. Can't remember if it was interstate music or another retailer though. Seems like Pearl is pretty much pushing a standard price across retailers on this series.

therocker
10-05-2016, 08:36 PM
I have seen specials pop up on occasion in sales emails and such listed the 5 piece for 599.99. Can't remember if it was interstate music or another retailer though. Seems like Pearl is pretty much pushing a standard price across retailers on this series.

Yeah. I wasn't quoting you LD, to like prove you wrong. ( I'm also not saying you took it that way) I was just looking at D.O.S. for pricing, because I never look there.

I usually check GC and MF on a regular basis.

So when I looked I felt compelled to check a few.

( I'm in the market for a new kit) 99.8 % it will be Pearl. The last % Ludwig. I do like the Zep kits )

Interesting point that Pearl has a standard price. I never checked any other manufacturers.

I wonder how those will compare. Hmmmmm.

Cheers!

LDdrummer
10-06-2016, 07:17 AM
I knew what you meant, never took it that way :)

If you are looking for a kit, check or Cascio Interstate if you haven't. Sign up on their mailing list, they send promo codes/coupons all the time, especially for the amount a set would cost. I have been ordering from them for over 20 years now, great service and great prices (on most things).

I still say keep an eye out on GC used. I got my Masters Premium super cheap, they had it listed as a standard Masters. Their mistakes are frequent and can help you out a lot :)

If I did go with a new kit, it would either be the Decade Maple or Tama Superstar Classic lines. Best bang for your buck out there!

bgarcia17
10-10-2016, 10:12 AM
Good advice. I've been watching the drum market for the last year or so, and it seems ALL dealers stick to the MAP rule. When you are ready to buy, it pays to shop around. All dealers will occasionally have a sale, but watch that they don't turn around and suddenly charge shipping on the sale item, which cuts into the savings. My best deals have been buying a discontinued color or an open box. Saved $200 buying both a discontinued color Tama Superstar Classic, and an open box Yamaha Custom Stage Birch. Best deal though was buying my 5 piece EXL at the local Guitar Center, when they had their anniversary sale and were mistakenly including the HWP830 with the lacquer kit shell packs. I informed them that the $600 price and part number indicated it was just a shell pack, but they insisted that it included hardware. I had no choice but to accept the hardware. ;) $500 for a Natural Cherry EXL, with hardware!

DrumandFly
11-06-2016, 08:15 AM
Does anyone know if you can get a 15 FT in the decade maple?

therocker
11-06-2016, 10:18 AM
Does anyone know if you can get a 15 FT in the decade maple?

That would be one big drum!

DrumandFly
11-06-2016, 11:17 AM
That would be one big drum!

I have a 15 tom to the left of the hihat... It's awesome!

Josh Conover
11-07-2016, 12:00 AM
Lol

DrumandFly
11-07-2016, 08:13 PM
That would be one big drum!

That's pretty funny.

I am surprised a Pearl rep hasn't answered this question though. Long time Pearl customer here, and own basically 4 Pearl kits.

therocker
11-07-2016, 08:45 PM
That's pretty funny. I am surprised a Pearl rep hasn't answered this question though. Long time Pearl customer here, and own basically 4 Pearl kits.

Usually there is an answer very quickly from a Pearl rep. Hang tight.

melvinspeed
11-08-2016, 05:12 AM
Does anyone know if you can get a 15 FT in the decade maple?

Currently? No. 15" isnt available.
I wouldn't expect it either. Pearl doesn't make 15" FT for higher end lines like Music City Customs, Reference or Masters. So I doubt they'd make em for the entry level maple kits when they dont make 'em for the higher end kits.
That said, the Decade Maple gong drum was an unexpected addition.

DrumandFly
11-08-2016, 06:30 AM
Currently? No. 15" isnt available.
I wouldn't expect it either. Pearl doesn't make 15" FT for higher end lines like Music City Customs, Reference or Masters. So I doubt they'd make em for the entry level maple kits when they dont make 'em for the higher end kits.
That said, the Decade Maple gong drum was an unexpected addition.


I seem to recall though they would do a 15 FT in the Ref. Series though, since they do the shell already in the rack tom. Pearl has done things outside their normal catalog in the past. Just curious if the factory would here in this case.

Silver
11-08-2016, 08:18 AM
I seem to recall though they would do a 15 FT in the Ref. Series though, since they do the shell already in the rack tom. Pearl has done things outside their normal catalog in the past. Just curious if the factory would here in this case.
This is true. You can special order (at least, this used to be possible) an 15" floortom in Reference, Reference Pure & Masters.
I've special ordered an 15"FT in the Reference series, you have to replace the T in the ordercode with a F so the factory knows to install the brackets & legs.
But as mentioned above: this is because the Ref, Ref Pure & Masters series offer an 15" racktom (see pricelist). But I don't see an 15" tom in the Decade series pricelist, so my guess this would be a no.

DrumandFly
11-15-2016, 10:47 AM
Usually there is an answer very quickly from a Pearl rep. Hang tight.

Not this time. Pearl customer for 30 years.

My bass player has a Tama we rehearse on. I wonder if they make a 15 in a similar line up.

AL PERCIVAL
11-15-2016, 02:14 PM
Does anyone know if you can get a 15 FT in the decade maple?

The short answer is No. The Decade Maple is a production-line factory kit with no custom sizes, shells, depths etc...

Will it be possible in the future? Who knows.

big daddy cool
11-16-2016, 04:40 PM
When pearl makes a15. Hook me up a 26!

DrumandFly
11-16-2016, 05:49 PM
If and when a 15 floor comes available. I'll be in!

The_Prowler
01-20-2017, 01:19 AM
So I'm wondering how many people have actually played on one of these so far with good heads? I've only heard them in real life once, but they had the stock heads and were tuned so badly that they might as well have not been tuned at all.

I like my rack tom(s) to have a nice, warm resonance and the floor tom(s) to be deep and a little punchier without having that atrocious "boing" or "bong" sound, so I'm curious to know how these actually sound compared to higher end kits.

nova
01-20-2017, 10:37 AM
I played a kit of these that were well tuned at our local Guitar Center, and they sound fantastic! I almost traded my 92 Exports for a kit of these as my B- Kit and I still often think of this deal.

pearlreference7101
01-21-2017, 11:04 AM
I played a kit of these that were well tuned at our local Guitar Center, and they sound fantastic! I almost traded my 92 Exports for a kit of these as my B- Kit and I still often think of this deal.

The phrase "well-tuned" does not belong in the same sentence as "Guitar Center" ;)

The_Prowler
01-21-2017, 09:21 PM
The phrase "well-tuned" does not belong in the same sentence as "Guitar Center" ;)

Funny you should mention that. Guitar Center is exactly where I heard the Decades I mentioned. I was afraid that it was the kit itself that sounded bad, so when I talked to the sales rep about it he looked me dead in the eye and without a single hint of irony said this to me...

"Yeah, I don't know how to tune drums and I really don't feel like taking the time to figure it out."

Needless to say that's the last time I've gone into a Guitar Center and very well may be the last ever. They've lost my business. I recently needed new heads and I opted to order them from Amazon and wait two weeks for them rather than go back to Guitar Center.

yyzt4e
01-22-2017, 01:12 PM
Exactly what I have found also. You may get lucky and one person can answer a question without saying " hang on, I will find out for you". On the other hand when you go in there to get something like sticks or a head 90 percent of the time it's not in stock.
I have however found that because of some employees lack of knowledge you can sometimes find a great deal online in the used section. I just recently picked up a Pearl Vision VSX in champagne sparkle, 8,10,12,14,16 and 20 kick. Great sizes I have been looking for, wrapped finish for gigging. $370. They are in pristine condition. New heads to boot.
So in summary, most of the time it can be a pain to deal with them but it does pay off sometimes in our favor.

therocker
01-22-2017, 01:53 PM
It's a crap shoot every time I'm in one. A lot if times the other customers in the store know more.

I ordered a Export kit in excellent condition. When it arrived the wrap was cracked, the hoops were pitted and the lugs and rods were covered in rust.

Plus the shipping weight was high because there was a pillow and a quilt still inside the kick.

But then I got an amazing deal on my MCX plus Icon rack for $700

Ya just never know.

nova
01-23-2017, 01:20 PM
It all depends on who is working at guitar center. Our Local GC has mostly experienced drummers that know what they are dealing. I usually buy on line but when I need something now, we only have 2 choices left in ABQ. GC is closer to other things I usually have to do and sometimes I find a great deal there (like the Decade Maple .

scooterdavis
01-24-2017, 12:40 AM
Funny you should mention that. Guitar Center is exactly where I heard the Decades I mentioned. I was afraid that it was the kit itself that sounded bad, so when I talked to the sales rep about it he looked me dead in the eye and without a single hint of irony said this to me... "Yeah, I don't know how to tune drums and I really don't feel like taking the time to figure it out." Needless to say that's the last time I've gone into a Guitar Center and very well may be the last ever. They've lost my business. I recently needed new heads and I opted to order them from Amazon and wait two weeks for them rather than go back to Guitar Center.
2weeks for an amazon purchase? Where do you live man?

The_Prowler
02-02-2017, 11:27 PM
2weeks for an amazon purchase? Where do you live man?

I live in Northern Virginia, but apparently the two heads and snare wires that I got all had to come from different distributors that had different delivery times. It was unusual and irritating, but my pride wouldn't let me go back to Guitar Center :rolleyes:

Fuller89
02-06-2018, 07:27 AM
Hey Al, do you think you could get a close up picture of the #221 Faded Glory finish on these? I am seriously considering ordering a large set if I really like the finish. I'm curious to see how much (if any) of the wood grain shows through and just how light the center of the burst really is.

AL PERCIVAL
02-07-2018, 09:04 AM
Hey Al, do you think you could get a close up picture of the #221 Faded Glory finish on these? I am seriously considering ordering a large set if I really like the finish. I'm curious to see how much (if any) of the wood grain shows through and just how light the center of the burst really is.

DMP1414F/C221 Faded Glory :D
the wood grain is present on the lighter fade

DrumandFly
02-07-2018, 09:15 AM
Nice!

Fuller89
02-07-2018, 09:17 AM
Thank you so much Al!

That is a beautiful drum and the ones I heard at Dale's a while ago and all the sound demos online sound great... now just to get my wife's approval to order a new kit :D..... That is going to be the hard part lol

AL PERCIVAL
02-07-2018, 09:23 AM
Thank you so much Al!

That is a beautiful drum and the ones I heard at Dale's a while ago and all the sound demos online sound great... now just to get my wife's approval to order a new kit :D..... That is going to be the hard part lol

send her Belgian chocolates
send flowers
wait on her hand & foot

say "did I ever tell you how much I love you?" :D

Fuller89
02-07-2018, 09:27 AM
send her Belgian chocolates
send flowers
wait on her hand & foot

say "did I ever tell you how much I love you?" :D

LOL

she might see through that.... but if it works ;)

We have to settle some other financial things first, but it does look promising!

therocker
02-08-2018, 07:31 AM
The Faded Glory is an awesome finish.

Fuller89
02-08-2018, 07:51 AM
The Faded Glory is an awesome finish.

I wasn't sure of it at first, but the more I see it, the more I like it.

Feenix
02-09-2018, 12:55 PM
Any explanation behind the finish name 'Faded Glory'?

Seems like a poor choice, along the lines of 'Fall from Grace,' 'Best Days Past,' or 'Lost the Groove'.

Edit: This isn't a shot at Pearl or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

Fuller89
02-09-2018, 01:18 PM
Any explanation behind the finish name 'Faded Glory'?

Seems like a poor choice, along the lines of 'Fall from Grace,' 'Best Days Past,' or 'Lost the Groove'.

Makes me think of the cheap clothing line at Walmart lol

therocker
02-09-2018, 08:19 PM
That's top of the line at Wal-Mart! :)

melvinspeed
02-10-2018, 02:01 PM
Any explanation behind the finish name 'Faded Glory'?

Seems like a poor choice, along the lines of 'Fall from Grace,' 'Best Days Past,' or 'Lost the Groove'.

Edit: This isn't a shot at Pearl or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

Especially since it's a burst, not a fade. :D

therocker
02-10-2018, 04:45 PM
Especially since it's a burst, not a fade. :D

Bursted Glory! :D

Cheez_Whiz
02-10-2018, 06:02 PM
Faded Glory finish reminds me a bit of my SBX in "Storm Cloud" fade, just with a little purple or indigo blending into the black. The color of this SBX comes out different every time I photograph it but see below. And, I agree with MelvinSpeed, that type of finish used to be called a "burst".

I was more taken aback by the "nicotine marine pearl" finish available on the Ref series. Seems like the word nicotine would not be looked on favorably these days.

508118

melvinspeed
02-10-2018, 06:51 PM
I was more taken aback by the "nicotine marine pearl" finish available on the Ref series. Seems like the word nicotine would not be looked on favorably these days.

The Cigarette association would seem to be a negative.

I'm personally not a fan of "yellowed" white finishes since that was a common problem with white wraps in the past. How do you enjoy telling someone about the color of your new kit when it looks like a white wrap that's been left out in a smokey bar for 10 years?

To each their own... I suppose that's why they make so many finishes. The yellow lacquer is still my favorite Decade Maple color.

The Kurgan
02-10-2018, 08:53 PM
I was more taken aback by the "nicotine marine pearl" finish available on the Ref series. Seems like the word nicotine would not be looked on favorably these days. <img src="https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=508118"/>


The Cigarette association would seem to be a negative. I'm personally not a fan of "yellowed" white finishes since that was a common problem with white wraps in the past. How do you enjoy telling someone about the color of your new kit when it looks like a white wrap that's been left out in a smokey bar for 10 years? To each their own... I suppose that's why they make so many finishes. The yellow lacquer is still my favorite Decade Maple color.


I like that aged look..It would be my top choice. I was surprised at the name as well, I'll bet it's short lived.

therocker
02-11-2018, 09:52 AM
My first kit was a Export white wrap. It sat for along time. The top of the kick was almond colored when I sold it.

RushDrums24
02-11-2018, 10:30 AM
I was more taken aback by the "nicotine marine pearl" finish available on the Ref series. Seems like the word nicotine would not be looked on favorably these days.

They could've called it a number of other things too, Aged marine pearl, Ivory marine pearl, etc.

therocker
02-11-2018, 11:58 AM
They could've called it a number of other things too, Aged marine pearl, Ivory marine pearl, etc.

The name is questionable but the thing that gave those old white drums and cymbals the hue is the nicotine in the air. So it seems appropriate.

Cheez_Whiz
02-11-2018, 12:36 PM
The name is questionable but the thing that gave those old white drums and cymbals the hue is the nicotine in the air. So it seems appropriate.

Actually, nicotine is colorless...but it does sound better than "tar stained" white

therocker
02-12-2018, 08:11 AM
Actually, nicotine is colorless...but it does sound better than "tar stained" white

Rennet those Topel tooth polish commercials?

" just think what smoking a pack a day can do to your teeth! "

It maybe colorless butt it stains everything brownish yellow.

Feenix
02-12-2018, 08:39 AM
It'd imagine that's the tar doing the staining, rather than the nicotine itself.