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Spur
02-16-2006, 06:08 PM
Precision Drum Company, Inc.
http://www.precisiondrum.com/html/snares.html

I can only imagine how heavy this thing must be.
Does anybody know about or have one?

milk post men
02-16-2006, 06:26 PM
I think anything over like 30 ply sounds the same.

drummer111
02-16-2006, 06:29 PM
i think the pearl reference steel snare and bronze snares are heavier

ROBB283DT
02-16-2006, 06:36 PM
I personally feel that is a bit overkill.

Myvanpounds
02-16-2006, 06:39 PM
man all that glue

Addict601
02-16-2006, 06:39 PM
That is just retarted

How would that sound good?

Like van said, that's a lot of glue

Glue doesn't resonate, it's dead space and on that drum there is a lot of it.

Anything that big should be stave construction.

drumming4life1
02-16-2006, 06:53 PM
Ugh, especially with those vents, Imagine how dead that drum is.

Addict601
02-16-2006, 06:57 PM
Ugh, especially with those vents, Imagine how dead that drum is.


Yeah man,

I like a deader sound but not like that

stevo30
02-16-2006, 07:21 PM
Funny how everyone will bash this snare, yet drool and dream over the reference snare, which is pretty much the same thickness.

felixdacat
02-16-2006, 07:28 PM
Funny how everyone will bash this snare, yet drool and dream over the reference snare, which is pretty much the same thickness.

LOL! GOOD ANSWER! That's exactly the way i feel.

ttaM
02-16-2006, 07:35 PM
thats a bout 5 times too much wood!!!

Greg M
02-16-2006, 07:39 PM
Funny how everyone will bash this snare, yet drool and dream over the reference snare, which is pretty much the same thickness.

The Reference snare,however, has only 20 plies, as compared to 50, it has less glue. Less glue,more wood=more resonant. But even so, anything over 10 ply is a bit over-the-top for my personal tastes.

russb66
02-16-2006, 07:39 PM
Like others have said,this drum is not much thicker than a Reference snare[25 mm thick.]The Reference snare is NOT dead sounding.

drumming4life1
02-16-2006, 07:40 PM
Funny how everyone will bash this snare, yet drool and dream over the reference snare, which is pretty much the same thickness.

I will not drool over a reference drum...They have beautiful finishes, but I HATE thick shells. Reference is over-priced for what you get IMHO, and while they are beautiful, the shells are far to thick for me.

G.I.H.U
02-16-2006, 08:03 PM
My eyes are burning.

riddie
02-16-2006, 08:16 PM
Pearls plys are way the hell thicker than Kellers plys. So 20 Pearl plys=much more than 20 Keller plys(not sure the exact number.

ekk20
02-16-2006, 08:19 PM
i love this snare...........i love all thick fat snares!

ekk20
02-16-2006, 08:20 PM
no vents tho..

riddie
02-16-2006, 08:23 PM
The 20 reference is 25mm thick like russ said, and the 50 ply Keller is 33.5mm thick. Thats not that big of a difference.

drunken_soybean
02-16-2006, 09:26 PM
wow 50 plys? that's insane.. how does it sound?

spikeman23
02-16-2006, 10:14 PM
I'd like to hear it.I love thick snares like that.I believe ayotte does a 50 ply 7x14.

Majyk Oyster
02-16-2006, 10:49 PM
those lugs look cheap.

Customdrumowner
02-17-2006, 12:35 AM
those lugs look cheap.

They are cheap in price if you want the cost to be low on your snare or kit. They are mini bow-ties which are made in Taiwan. In person they look nicer a good solid lug. They reason i'm backing up these lugs is cause i have the brass version on my kit and stave snare so I like em.

GTHO_PhaseIII
02-17-2006, 12:44 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem as if all the drum manufactuers are trying to out-do each other really badly this time? It seems like this company has said "Oh, company x has a 40-ply snare....hmm how can we counter that. I know 50-ply! Why would anyone get a 40 when you can get a 50!"

DrumminDawg
02-17-2006, 12:54 AM
The Reference snare may not be much thicker, but it does have quite a bit less glue beacause it has way less plies. Also the Reference doesn't have huge ******ed vents all around it.

Customdrumowner
02-17-2006, 03:01 AM
He said HUGE *** vents all around not a air vent which every snare has one.

Big King
02-17-2006, 07:08 AM
That snare is about as usefull as glass nails.

Addict601
02-17-2006, 07:19 AM
Yeah like a lot of other people have said, the Reference snare is about the same thickness, but it is only 20 plys, thats 30 plys less that need to be glued and glue is dead sound, so a reference would be much more resonant.

Crazy Mike
02-17-2006, 07:55 AM
That's far too thick for my likings. I prefer 8-ply or 10-ply.
A couple of months ago I've build a 14" x 5" 20-ply shell and still have to finish it. That 20-ply shell alone weighs about 1,5 - 2 kilograms which already too much for me.

ian40uk
02-17-2006, 08:02 AM
pointless ! :rolleyes:

they give it all that focus with 50 plies , then drill dirty great big holes in the side ??, its a pile of shi-ite, nothing more , and anyone who spends money on a drum like that needs their head looking at.

give me a 3 ply shell any day of the week, a snare drum sounds wonderful with a little ring , that thing makes me nauseous looking at it :(

listen to this track, its a Reference kit , but the snare drum is a ............................. Ludwig 400.

http://artists.cpu.ie//play.php?band_id=951&song_id=4840&mode=song_lofi



keep your excessive ply drums, very thin wood or metal snares rule !

Roger~Me~RogeR
02-17-2006, 08:06 AM
How many have heard the snare again?

invertalon
02-17-2006, 08:17 AM
Burn ^ ;)

iCe
02-17-2006, 08:32 AM
you would get high when you change heads, because of all the glue that would get free

ah, that's why it has vents. i see...

:p

that's just too thick

Junesong Provision
02-17-2006, 02:57 PM
I think anything over like 30 ply sounds the same.
yep.. completely dead, no tone, just loud head noise. all clogged up. that snare is pretty much worthless. you could get a stave shell that thick for probobly a lot less to get some heavy attack and volume, but the lack of glue allows a much better tone.

TommySalami
02-17-2006, 04:44 PM
5 years from now, the 1000 ply snare

thismercifulfate
02-17-2006, 04:55 PM
5 years from now, the 1000 ply snare

LOL @ photoshop :D :p

TommySalami
02-17-2006, 04:59 PM
one of the greatest inventions ever, even better than the computer it's on

AL PERCIVAL
02-17-2006, 05:00 PM
5 years from now, the 1000 ply snare

But your vents still show 50-ply... :D

I don't know how that precision snare would sound, I just know Pearl did an amazing job on creating a 20-ply 25mm shell snare that has a wonderful full-bodied warm sound with good projection that is still sensitive and doesn't have a high ear pircing pitch like some 20+ snares do.

TommySalami
02-17-2006, 05:11 PM
But your vents still show 50-ply... :D

I don't know how that precision snare would sound, I just know Pearl did an amazing job on creating a 20-ply 25mm shell snare that has a wonderful full-bodied warm sound with good projection that is still sensitive and doesn't have a high ear pircing pitch like some 20+ snares do.
well, if you insist on being anal...

TamaPlayer
02-17-2006, 05:11 PM
Al knows what he's talking about.

It all comes down to the thickness of the plies. I really think them stating the number of plies gives you the idea that its thick, maybe to appeal more or something, when really its not much thicker then a Reference with 20 plies.

(BTW Al, somethings wrong with my browser, its been acting up lately, can't send PM's.)

żumop apisdn
02-17-2006, 08:51 PM
That snare is about as usefull as glass nails.
I beg to differ. What happens when you're out at sea without an anchor, but you brought your drumset? Perfect situation. The vent holes are actually there so it won't float when you throw it overboard.

lol at 1000 ply snare

I can't wait till someone makes the 250 ply snare that has the open space of a small pencil. It'll sound like drumming on a desk or countertop, but people will still pay 500 bucks for them.