Cymbals

[kev]

Let me put in some links for the moment - its awfully blank right now!
Start us off anyway...

Cymbals

Links to the "EVERYTHING" threads! (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=100137)
Taking the logo off the cymbals (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=110104)
Overview of Cymbals (http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/textc/Cymbal.html)
PDF's choice of Jazz Cymbals (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=99159)
The Cymbal Sound Library! (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=80775)
"Popping" back a Cymbal if its Inverted (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=108486)
Mounting a zilbell in place of a ride bell (replacing the ride bell, basically) (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=109125)
Difference between cast and sheet cymbals (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showpost.php?p=1851020249&postcount=4)
Size of Paragon Ride Bell (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=133412)
How a Cymbal is made in the Zildjian factory (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=162795)

Reviews

Sabian Review Thread (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=72071)
Zildjian Reviews (http://www.zildjianreviews.com/)
Sabian AAX Reviews (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=98646)
Paiste Reviews (http://pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=166845)

Different Cymbals

-Crash Cymbal-

Definition of an Oriental Crash Cymbal (http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/textc/Crashcymbals.html)
Sound of Sabian AAX Dark Crashes (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=96642)

-Ride Cymbal-

Definition of a ride cymbal (http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/textr/Ridecymbal.html)
Opinions on 21" Sabian Signature Salsero Ride (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=109619)
Opinions on Sabian Paragon Ride (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=108660)

-China Cymbal-

Definition of a China Cymbal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_cymbal)
Different ways of using a china for different sounds (http://pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=108097)

Cymbal Cleaning

Some issus on this are in DrumTips 101 (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=92188)
Cymbal Cleaning Tips and Advice (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=134535)

External links

Sabian (http://www.sabian.com)
Zildjian (http://www.zildjian.com)
Paiste (http://www.paiste.com)
Meinl (http://www.meinlcymbals.com/)
Saluda (http://www.saludacymbals.com/)
Istanbul (http://www.istanbulcymbals.com/)
Stagg (http://www.staggmusic.com/)
Masterwork (http://www.masterworkcymbal.com/)
Wuhan (http://www.wuhancymbals.com/)
Bosphorus (http://www.bosphoruscymbals.com/)
UFIP (http://www.ufip.com/)
Anatolian (http://www.anatoliancymbals.com/)
Orion (http://www.orioncymbals.com.br/)
Turkish (http://www.turkishcymbals.com/)

[colinsk8s]

So are we supposed to post cymbals?:confused:

I don't understand this section?

[kev]

Just like any other section. Ive still post post the links down. Im very busy at the mo, I'll ge tthem down soon.

PDF University is a place to read and find out about the stuff you need. Right now, its small, but hey, I only started this afternoon!

[random hero]

This section isnt what I hoped for.

[kev]

What dyou hope for?

personally, i think the stuff with forums and copyright stuff is pretty restricting, but whatever goes. If I could do annyythhing, id build a nice page and put everything i could find in any way i could! :D

Then again, it still serves the purpose!

[bonzonerd]

I think its a good idea, but I think only kev, and mods should be able to post in it so the threads don't get filled up with other posts. Keep it nice and clean.

[livingstone]

So are we supposed to post cymbals?:confused:

I don't understand this section?

It's a collection of the best threads on the forum all grouped together for easy access. It makes sense and with a bit of work it will be awesome.

[CarterIdolizer]

I think I'm going to write a script that has a collection of every cymbal currently made by the three major cymbal companies.

If I have time, and actually decide to do it, would anyone want to help with the actual inputting of the stuff?

[GTHO_PhaseIII]

Thatd be really interesting, but I dont think i'd be able to do much to help :(

[kev]

Just try to keep things informative around here, keep things organised, at least. If things become too bad, then I might do that, but you never know :p

If anyones got material or their own stuff they want to post in, oh, and CarterIdolizer, that sounds great!

[DaveMurray44]

Guys, definetly check out the Sabian review thread, I just bumped it in Cymbal Talk too...it's a sweet deal.

[fledgehog]

Don't forget Piggy's Zildjian reviews!

[kev]

ooh, ill find that!

[kev]

Hmm .. cant find it :confused:

[JohnBonham=Beast]

I'll find my AAX review on a couple of the types. Maybe already done, but more sources always help! ;)


http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=98646

[Teh Pwnerer]

Put in the zildjian reveiws.. http://www.freewebs.com/zildjianreviews/index.htm.

[kev]

Cool - theyre in. I wasnt even aware that was around :D

[Teh Pwnerer]

really?? that link is in alot of peoples signature. anyway np.

[kev]

haha, no, Never seen it :p

The Drum Forum was in people sigs at oe point and I didnt know about it :D
That lets you know what I think about peoples sigs :rolleyes:

[colinsk8s]

The orion link doesn't work. the one in the first post.:( i love orion cymbals.

[kev]

Oh yeah. I had to go out, but i didnt want to borget the company names so i quickly put the names in before I forgot :p

[Roar!]

What about the deffinitions of different cymbals I sent you...:(

[kev]

Theyre in :)

[kev]

Hey man, i found the diagram!

[Holybanana]

Fix the "Instanbul" ;)

[Chris309]

That diagram of the china has some of the worse striking advice I've ever seen. Are they for real? In the inverted pic, #4 is ridiculous...same with #3 in the bottom pic. You're only asking for big trouble striking the edge head on like that. Not to mention you'll pretty much shred your sticks to sawdust in no time at all. Example #3 in the top pic is just plain silly. The bell is like 2" across with the wingnut and felts in the middle. How the hell can you get a stick in there to actually play anything? Sheesh, where did you find that pic?

EDIT: I just found the thread that was first posted in. That came from PAISTE? Oh man.

[kev]

That diagram of the china has some of the worse striking advice I've ever seen. Are they for real? In the inverted pic, #4 is ridiculous...same with #3 in the bottom pic. You're only asking for big trouble striking the edge head on like that. Not to mention you'll pretty much shred your sticks to sawdust in no time at all. Example #3 in the top pic is just plain silly. The bell is like 2" across with the wingnut and felts in the middle. How the hell can you get a stick in there to actually play anything? Sheesh, where did you find that pic?

EDIT: I just found the thread that was first posted in. That came from PAISTE? Oh man.
A paiste CATALOGUE!!

[Chris309]

Hey Kev, please change the Zildjian Reviews link to http://www.zildjianreviews.com

Thanks :)

[Metalbuckitz]

The 1969 Paiste catalogue, to be exact. I own it, and that's directly from there.

[kev]

Maybe theyve learnt a thing or two about using chinas since then!!!

hopefully...

[Chris309]

Kev when you get a chance...read my post just above and change that link. ;)

[Lynn]

That diagram of the china has some of the worse striking advice I've ever seen. Are they for real? In the inverted pic, #4 is ridiculous...same with #3 in the bottom pic. You're only asking for big trouble striking the edge head on like that. Not to mention you'll pretty much shred your sticks to sawdust in no time at all. Example #3 in the top pic is just plain silly. The bell is like 2" across with the wingnut and felts in the middle. How the hell can you get a stick in there to actually play anything? Sheesh, where did you find that pic?

EDIT: I just found the thread that was first posted in. That came from PAISTE? Oh man.
I'm pretty sure it's intended to be exagerated, but somebody could get into big trouble if they took it literally. It's actually pretty acurate other than that.

[kev]

Cool, zildjian reviews changed :)

[TheAnt]

kev... you should put the links to all the "EVERYTHING (Cymbal Company)" Threads in here. Those are full of tons of information

[kev]

kev... you should put the links to all the "EVERYTHING (Cymbal Company)" Threads in here. Those are full of tons of information
Good point. For the reference :D

[DrummerBoy27]

So what's the link to the main big Sabian review thread? I'd like to see that.
Thanks

- Eric

[kev]

So what's the link to the main big Sabian review thread? I'd like to see that.
Thanks

- Eric
Unless theres something else I dont know about, theres a huge Sabian Review thread in there already.

[DrummerBoy27]

Mmkay thanks! Bit of a blond moment on my part there. But I'm over it already. I found it, I'm good now.

- Eric

[fledgehog]

Might want to add the ZHT thread in here.

[fledgehog]

you might also want to add this one:
http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=99159

[Rio_mang]

Whats the right technique for hitting cymbals?

[DrummerBoy27]

^ Take a stick, and hit it. It makes a sound. If it doesn't, you suck.



:D

[Tom Reyns]

Whats the right technique for hitting cymbals?Pull your stick back after you hit a cymbal (or let it rebound on rides/ hi-hats), don't push the sticks on the cymbal. Also hit wit a slight twist of your wrist, this is supposed the be better for the cymbal but I never do it (at least I'm not aware of it) and I have no trouble with my cymbals or my technique.

[Rio_mang]

^ Take a stick, and hit it. It makes a sound. If it doesn't, you suck.



:D
makes sence

[Rio_mang]

Cymbal Terms (http://www.blues4kids.com/musical_instruments/html/drum_cymbals.htm)

[Rio_mang]

http://pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=206783
another thread on Cymbal technique

[Rio_mang]

http://pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=200424

Good thread from Damo