Multi Tracking a monster kit

[j031]

what firewire box should i buy for alot of mics? like 15 mics MAX

heres whats figured out so far ...


1 Dual Firepod 10 daisy chained
2 Firestudio tube (can it really take 16 mics if u use a second preamp?)
3 mixer to unite similar tracks to fit in a single fp10
4 another idea?


(Edit: BIG edit here )

[j031]

oh, for the people who are going to tell me thers plenty of threads just liek this one,

im trying to figure out which firewire box will be best for multitracking up to 15 mics

[fakiekid]

Originally Posted by j031

oh, for the people who are going to tell me thers plenty of threads just liek this one,

im trying to figure out which firewire box will be best for multitracking up to 15 mics

no offense, but there are a few threads like this.

If you wanna work with Pro Tools, your gonna have to get a Digi 003 or a box by M-Audio like this (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFire2626.html) as Pro Tools needs specific hardware to run.

You will not find 1 box that will do 15 mics at once (Tascam do a 16 channel USB box but I doubt they will all come out on separate channels), your gonna have to look at getting two units or a rack of pres (like the focusrite octopre) that has a digital out along with the audio interface.

If you wanna save a bit of cash, and your running PC, the presonus firepod or FP10 as they call it, could be right up your street (comes with Cubase I think?). Two of them daisy chained possibly?

Also remember about cables and stands cutting into your budget.

Whirlwind cables are great, I use them in the studio and in our live rig, think mine are Whirlwind leaders and our multicore a medusa.

Hope that helps.

[-=Steve=-]

don't even bother close micing a beast like that...
Kick mic, snare mic and overheads can record a full kit fine.

with a budget of 1000 you won't even have enough for 4 mics and an interface with stands+cables, let alone 15 mics and 2 interfaces...

[fakiekid]

Originally Posted by -=Steve=-

don't even bother close micing a beast like that...
Kick mic, snare mic and overheads can record a full kit fine.

with a budget of 1000 you won't even have enough for 4 mics and an interface with stands+cables, let alone 15 mics and 2 interfaces...

probably 3 overheads if it is the kit in the dudes avatar. L M R

[j031]

yea that helps haha

that fp10 gonna set me back like 3-400$

ill have to mix some drums together (like a 50$ mixer to mix 2 mics into 1 channel)

keep it under 10 tracks then i can use the firepod 10


anyone got any experience recording drums with multiple mics on 2 channels?

[j031]

Originally Posted by fakiekid

probably 3 overheads if it is the kit in the dudes avatar. L M R

haha nah thats my old kit next to my new one


The cost of mics is gonna be like.. 150 for fusion 4 300 for the fusion 7, 100 for the sm57, 160 for the d6

ill just get 2 high quality cables for the 2m57 and d6 since the fusion mics are bundled with the whirlwind cables
gonna be about 730$ for mics and cables stands or clips gonna be another 150$

the firepod 10 maybe like under 400$ hopefully 200$ for some mini mixers to keep the track count under 10

patch cables shouldn't be expensive

lookin at 1900$ >_<

[Gord The Drummer]

Yeah, don't individually mic that drum kit. Get 3 nice LDC mics, a kick and a snare mic. Make sure the room sounds good and you will get a far better sound than cheaping out on mics.

Increase your budget. Big kits need either expensive mics, or more of them. You can't get individual mics for that price, and certainly cannot afford an interface and good mics to record it. Save your money, buy better quality equipment.

[notsocoolguy]

Originally Posted by j031

keep it under 10 tracks then i can use the firepod 10

Keep in mind that 2 of the Firepods inputs are digital ins, I.E, you can't just run a mixer into them and use them! Just thought I'd let you know!

And also, is there any reason you've completly disregarded ANYONE who's said USE LESS BUT HIGHER QUALITY MICS!!! In most situations where a limited budget in the top concern, this one included, your much better off buying less high quality gear than lots of rubbish gear!

[-=Steve=-]

Originally Posted by j031

haha nah thats my old kit next to my new one


The cost of mics is gonna be like.. 150 for fusion 4 300 for the fusion 7, 100 for the sm57, 160 for the d6

ill just get 2 high quality cables for the 2m57 and d6 since the fusion mics are bundled with the whirlwind cables
gonna be about 730$ for mics and cables stands or clips gonna be another 150$

the firepod 10 maybe like under 400$ hopefully 200$ for some mini mixers to keep the track count under 10

patch cables shouldn't be expensive

lookin at 1900$ >_<

dude, skip the idea of the submixers, if you really want 15 mics, get 2 fp10's, but you're in for lots of phase problems and bleed with that many mics around your kit. You'll really get way better quality with less mics. You can always add more mics in the future if you feel like it, but than you'll have a good basis and add to that.

[j031]

well see steve just gave em a good idea
i had no idea you could daisy chain fp10's
the mixers + a single fp10 whould of probably cost me the same as two fp 10's



and the reason why im stubborn about the mic's is because this just a small personal project i dont wana shell out thousands on mic's just because

and ive heard those audix fusion mics are great for the price
just add sm57 on snare and a d6 on bass

if they are so horrible i can always sell them on ebay and buy some better ones
right now im more focused on the cost of multitracking

[fakiekid]

Originally Posted by j031

i had no idea you could daisy chain fp10's
the mixers + a single fp10 whould of probably cost me the same as two fp 10's

Originally Posted by fakiekid

If you wanna save a bit of cash, and your running PC, the presonus firepod or FP10 as they call it, could be right up your street (comes with Cubase I think?). Two of them daisy chained possibly?