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  1. Futile

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    Default Traditional and Match Grip

    I had this slightly heated conversation with a 16 y/o on my Facebook wall (well Jay Postone from Tesseracts wall). About match and trad. What are your guys thoughts? My name in this thread is Dean Thomson btw.



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    How much is too much drumming? I guess when all of your fingers feel like they're bruised? Nah, apparently not
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis I've gone until my hands/fingers had pretty much all the skin ripped off.
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            Jamie Postones Clever! Gaffa tape does the trick dude
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis Tape is for *******!
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            Pj O'Connell Travis Barker uses super glue. Because thats clever.
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis At least you wont drop your sticks?
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            Pj O'Connell Super glue for closing wounds though? ewh.
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis Guess its the closest to medical glue he could get :P
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            André Moya use semen , that'll do the trick for ya
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            Sohaib Syed wouldn't superglue be dangerous to use on the fingers no? lol
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            Rich Kendall Super glue was developed in the vietnam war, purely for that reason. Just a pointless bit of information for y'all. How's **** Jay? Lookin forward to catch up with you when your back in Wolves!
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            Jodey Watchorn ****in champ
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            Dean Thomson I bruise my left thumb occasionally from drumming at high volumes. That's traditional grip for you
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis Learn match, makes life a hell of a lot easier!
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            Dean Thomson Haha I'm happy playing trad. My muscles are developed for trad. I'm awful at match grip
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis For the first two years of playing my teacher taught me traditional.. I saw people playing match and thought "What the **** am I doing?" played match ever since.
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            Sohaib Syed i've always been playing matched grip myself. Its the job!
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            Dean Thomson ‎@Xi'an: Understandable, a choice I made. And a lost art. I play match occasionally when I know the song suits its more :)
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis A lost art yeah, but a fairly useless one unless you still play with your snare 20 miles to your left.
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            Dean Thomson You seem so against traditional grip. Haha
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            Xi'an 'Xianaynay' Lewis Whilst it makes you look that little bit cooler, I think it's slightly pointless. Fair enough if it's the only way you know how to play, but I notice I play a load better when I play match, being taught both also taught me pros/cons of each. When I look at those it's just match all the way :P
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            Sohaib Syed its all about preference really
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            Dean Thomson I agree Sohaid. It all depends on personal preference. I don't play traditional grip because it looks "cool". It is just the way I prefer to play. Nothing bad about it just the way one specific person plays. Just like Virgil Donati, Steve Smith, Jojo Mayer and a million other guys.
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            Dean Thomson I've been playing traditional grip for a good part of seventeen years. I admire lots of match grip players. But there shouldn't be such a pretence against one specific grip.
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    I think this vindicates my hatred of Facebook.

  3. Futile

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    Haha. Very good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by space jeff View Post
    I think this vindicates my hatred of Facebook.
    This.

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    Cymbal sounds, head choices, pedal adjustments, head tension, grip... it's all a matter of preference. I try matched grip sometimes, but it feels unnatural to me. I always play matched grip, just because i'm used to it. Everything has pro's and cons. Except when you're Chuck Norris, then everything has pro's.
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    I play traditional grip. I couldn't play matched grip if I had to. It's the way I was taught. But there is nothing wrong with matched grip. Usually people who tried and failed at traditional grip don't do it correctly and fail at power and double (1/32 note) double strokes. Interestingly Weckle, Danati and Lang (among many others) all hold there left hand / stick the same way. And it delivers all the power and control one needs.
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    I've played matched forever. I've tried traditional a couple times but due to the fact that I lead with my left, it seems more of a pain in the butt than someone who leads with their right. Enough of a pain in the butt that I have no desire to change my drumming to allow myself to look cooler. If it aint broke, dont fix.
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    I play both, it just depends on what I'm playing.
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    I don't personally understand traditional grip myself. It seems totally outdated and when I've tried to learn it, it's awkward as hell. There aren't any apparent benefits to using it either, that I can tell anyway. A relic of the past. We all know what happened to good 'ol Triceratops in his dotage. Insert further generic Peddlin-esque nonsense here.
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  11. Gumbercules

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    I play traditional grip all the time. I'm trying to work on my matched grip because I haven't bothered with it since I'd first started drumming, but it just isn't quite where the traditional grip is.

    I think Jojo Mayer had the best answer to why people play traditional grip, but I won't quote because I can't watch the video right now (I won't misquote).

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which way you play. Jojo Mayer has shown that you can play incredibly fast in traditional grip, fast enough for just about anything. But the reality is matched grip does end up being faster (see Mike Mangini).

    Then the question becomes do you need to play that fast?

    The answer is to learn to play both proficiently and then make a decision. I know a lot of people would see me set up to play in a metal band and then hold my sticks traditional grip and they would roll their eyes. 2 bars into the first song they realised that there is no difference between grips if you know how to play properly.

    One of my current goals is to retrain my left hand in matched grip, because it will help me play traditional grip better.

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    Its all a preference thing imo. There are schools of thought of both sides that argue different points. Personally I like both grips although I find myself using matched most of the time, mostly because I use my left hand just as much as the right (partially open-handed) and I find matched more balanced.

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