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  1. Drummin' slut & lovin' it

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    Ribbon mic are usually condensor mics (need power to the mic to operate it). You have Dynamic mics (operates off of electrical signals generated by the mic's pickup coil movement).

    Just place the mic between the two drums and leave it at that. Anything you do to affect one mic electrically when "Y"ed together affects how the 2nd one picks up too. When you strike one drum, BOTH mics will pick up the sound (one slightly delayed) and make for a slightly muddied sound with both mics sending the same sound down the cable through the mixer. Does this happen with multiple mics on their own mixer channels? Yes, but you can electrically alter each mic individually to improve the sound.

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    Thanks for all the advice. I'll play around and see what I like best.

    Weps...any pics of your kit?
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    Ribbon mic are usually condensor mics
    I think you mean ribbon mics are usually powered mics.

    Ribbon mics and Condenser mics are very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord The Drummer View Post
    Being that these are likely wide cardioids, you can easily mic 2 toms with one mic without any issues.
    Yes, very well oddly enough. I only have 4 mics working on a 5 piece. I suggest using a single mic on the smaller toms as they cut through better, single on floor toms. I have the TN211 slightly on the 10" side because the 12" gets picked up really good.

    So if these were my toms o' O the mic would be the '.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weps View Post
    Ribbon mic are usually condensor mics (need power to the mic to operate it). You have Dynamic mics (operates off of electrical signals generated by the mic's pickup coil movement).


    weps
    The voltage in a ribbon microphone is generated by the movement of the ribbon within a magnetic field. You don't need phantom power or any other source of electricity except for what is generated by the ribbon mic itself to send a signal down the cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weps View Post
    Ribbon mic are usually condensor mics (need power to the mic to operate it). You have Dynamic mics (operates off of electrical signals generated by the mic's pickup coil movement).
    The majority of ribbon mics are passive. Active ribbon mics are not common and have only started popping up in fairly recent years. Ribbon mics are a type of dynamic mic.

    And a lot of regular ribbon mics can be fried by sending 48v phantom power to them. Newer ones have some sort of protection, but it's still not recommended.

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    Why are you guys arguing over ribbon mics? The guy clearly has dynamic mics, if anyone bothered to look up what he has...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill87gt View Post
    Thanks for all the advice. I'll play around and see what I like best.

    Weps...any pics of your kit?
    I use two mics (Shure pg 56) into one splitter cable for one channel on my 14 and my 16 floor toms and it works very well for live apps.

    I can position both mics on what I feel is a sweet spot, and we have a quality PA and processing gear and it does fine for me.

    I say give it a try. Only for live apps though ..... LOL.
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    The reason for not using a Y-cable splitter to combine two mic signals into one is because a Y-cable splitter is a splitter, not a combiner. Splitting one signal into two is much easier than combining two signals into one. I'd be surprised if the label on any Y-cable out there talks about combining signals. They pretty much all talk about splitting signals because they don't want to assume any responsibility for damages if you use it to combine signals.

    Lots of folks use a Y-cable to combine signals (eg. stereo RCA outs to a TS 1/4" plug to play music on breaks). It generally works okay but when there are problems, you got problems! Spend a few bucks on a decent mic combiner:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonTsi90 View Post
    Why are you guys arguing over ribbon mics? The guy clearly has dynamic mics, if anyone bothered to look up what he has...
    Nobody's arguing about anything. We all just want accurate information to get to the readers, nothing else.

    Many years ago I saw an engineer connect an RCA 77D ribbon microphone to an energized 48V phantom input without his knowing which created disastrous effects. It burned the windings of it's impedance matching transformer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill87gt View Post
    Thanks for all the advice. I'll play around and see what I like best.

    Weps...any pics of your kit?
    Here's a couple shots from the front with the 3 across front toms. 1st one with them all miced up, 2nd has one floor, & the last is a clear side shot of the two floors before I found my 8x8 front tom (nice clean living room picture). I really need to get some good current drumkit pictures.

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    one mic should be fine for two floor toms IMO.

    on a side note, i'd recommend doing a bit more research on what types of mics there are in the market and what their technical characteristics are..

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