poplar wood and drum making
Okay... so i search on this forum and did some research ... just to get this out of the way first this is what I found:
- poplar wood is not "bad sounding" or "cheap quality" wood... rather it was a wood that has certain sounds properties... but is abundant and thus was inexpensive for drum construction.
- a lot of older (and prized) vintage drums were made using poplar as the core of the drum... with a vener of another wood (sometimes mahogany) inside and outside b/c poplar wood did not have as nice of a finish as some other woods. In fact it sometimes had greenish/bluish (i think) marks in the wood
Other things i've found are that keller shells are making vintage shells which have a poplar core, mahogany on the inside and out (i think a very thin ply) with maple reinforcing rings. Also, this is the same construction as dw's classic series shells.
Also,... harder/denser woods typically have more low end... for example bubinga and mahogany have good low end. I believe mahogany is used more in the reference series shells for their floor toms and bass drums for this sonic property. So... i'm not sure how hard/dense poplar as compare to other woods.
Okay... so with that out of the way... i'm thinking that the keller mahogany vintage shells would make a nice bass drum. I just emailed them to see if they make deeper shell depths for their kicks. I'm not particularly looking for a tubby sound though (as some vintage sounding drums have been described). I play harder music (metal core/rock) but also play jazz too. I find that a versatile/musical drum will suit any/most music style anyways... and for the extreme sounds that you hear on records that's all the result of processing like compression and eq'ing, reverb etc anyways.
Here are some useful links:
There are many different types of 'poplar'. It's an entire genus of wood.
Originally Posted by AppleSeed
The issue is somewhat complicated, suffice to say that the type of 'poplar' in low end drums is usually plantation grown in many different parts of Asia, whereas the 'poplar' in Keller drums and their American predecessors are a different species of wood.
The asian poplar is similar to basswood.
Cool thanks for the reply
poplar is really soft, my ex is really ringy, heaps of overtones, i try to work with them live to get a louder kit that doesent sound like cardboard, but in the studio they have alot of unwanted overtones.....and they havent got the lowest fundemental pitch ahha
to be honest im sick of my poplar export, cant fault anything else, hardware is amazing, bearing edges flawless....but poplar is a **** wood in my opinion...
Certain wood, edge and drum head combinations do not go well together. an Example: Pinstripe heads and Maple with a 45 degree bearding edge make a dead thud, not very desirable; Pinstripes and Birch with 45 degree bearing edges and correct tuning create a huge sound, and doesn't sound anything like a dead thud. Sometimes you can't just make the drum work with the drum head, you'll have to find the drum head to work with the drum.
Originally Posted by ant
i agree, i have had ec2s/coated g2/g2clear/ and now ec1 coated ( all over a clear G1)
Originally Posted by SKC
it took a while and a lot of money (for me) to get there but i found the best head for it, never the less...sick of poplar haha
Last edited by ant; 11-16-2009 at 12:03 AM.
That isn't a lot of variance in heads at all, and I think you should take a look at your tuning if you're getting lots of overtones with EC2's.
Originally Posted by ant