Adding percussion drums to drumset?

[Rich]

I am primarilly a drumset player, however I am interested in adding some percussion sounds to my kit. I was thinking perhaps a stand that might hold either two taibales and sometimes I might take one off and add a second snare like a picciolo. Has anyone out there had any expeirence with this? What size timbales should I get. Thanks, Rich.

[Monday317]

Rich--

Check out the line of products at Pearl Percussion. There are all sorts of things available to do just what you want. Also, there are all sorts of ways to clamp stuff to stands in Pearl Hardware as well.

Roam all over the Pearl site--especially the catalogs. You'll find your answers there.

[MusicMan]

Rich -

There isn't any stand available that will mount a timbale along with a second snare. You would need to create your own combination of regular stands and clamps to achieve this. The main problem is the timbale which requires a special mounting bracket.

A plausible compromise would be to use the 13" Pearl drumset timbale which has a regular tom-tom pipe mounting bracket that can be used with a regular tom stand.

Also, Pearl's smaller 10" and 12" effects snare drums can be mounted on the same kind of stand with an ISS mount.

Thus, you would need the drumset timbale, an effects snare, and a double tom stand. This would be the easiest way to do it.

Another option would be to just use a snare drum stand and then use a 13" Elite timbale and a 13" second snare drum. This way, you can just switch between the timbale and the snare drum by lifting them right off of the snare stand!

The smaller 13" size is the most popular size for a drumset application of the timbale. The bigger ones take up too much room.

[Rich]

Thanks for your input. Since I know very little about Timbalies, I had no idea how they connect to their stands. I was thinking more along the lines of your other suggestion with using a tom mount stand along with the ISS system which I use anyway. I have seen side snares with an ISS hookup. However if I can't just hook-up one timbali I will use the 13" set-up alone on the side and maybe not use a side snare. Thanks again, Rich. :cool:

[Ray]

The standard size for timbales is either a combo of 13 and 14 drums or a 14 and 15. Anything smaller will not have the same sound...

[MusicMan]

Rich -

Yeah, based upon your intent to "switch" drums, I would go with the 13" timable and 13" auxiliary snare. This combo also gives you the most popular choice for both the timbale and the secondary snare.

It's a lot easier (and less costly) to just switch the two drums off of a loose snare stand than to try to rig up a heavy combination of hardware to have both drums mounted on the same stand.

[Rich]

Thanks again for your input. I don't know what a 13"Timbale sounds like. Would it have enough volume on its own without being miced? Some day I might even get a set of congas and
bongo's along with the timbales and have a nice percussion setup. I could use it for small venues where a drum set is not required. Well thanks again for your input. Rich.

[Glen Caruba]

Also Pearl now offers a new I.S.S. style mount for our regular Elite timbales. You can then mount our full size timbales (sold indivdually) using this part: PSP1345, and you'll need to add on a BT-3 Tom Mount. It also works on Djembes off our rack system. Go to this link and scroll to the bottom of the page:http://www.pearldrum.com/03_wnamm2.asp

Regards,

Glen

[powermatt99]

I wish I would have seen those djembe ISS mounts before. Will they work with congas? They appear to have the same dual-bolt mount as congas do. Would the gear equiped tom arm as opposed to the Unilock, be better equipped to handle the load of a large hand drum?

Thanks

[Glen Caruba]

The deal is that these ISS plates were designed solely for Timbale adaption to racks or 7/8" tom arms, but last minute I threw some djembes up there and everybody flipped out over the idea.

To make it work (rack only), you need to have a lower cross bar for the base of the drum to rest on. You can't have just the tom arm supporting it. I suppose it will work with congas (yes the mounting bracket is the same), but you need that lower bar for sure.

Uni-lock, gear - it doesn't matter in this case.


Regards,

Glen