Want to get rid of your Bass Drum bracket???

[drumwerker]

Wouldn't it be great if Pearl made a replacement piece so that anyone who no longer wanted their BB-3 bracket on their bass drum could remove it and replace it with a nice flush-fitting chrome plate (maybe with a Pearl logo on it?). Something classy and elegant. How many out there think so????

Lots of people use racks and would love to get this tall hunk o' metal out of their way.

So should Pearl make a replacement part for the Bass drum bracket....?

[pearlplayer16]

yeah i think pearl should sell one .... it would be a hot item and being that you can take them on and off you can put the bb-3 bracket back on if you need to mount your tomes on the bass drum..... id buy one

[TLMdrummer]

Yeah it sounds like an awesome idea, i think i asked Gene about it in another thread, cos i have found u can reduce sympathetic vibrations by mounting toms on a rack or cymbal stand, giving u a much punchier kick.
C'mon pearl, the people have spoken! :D

[drummerchick]

I'd buy it!

[Dman]

yeah, I'd have to get one myself.

Dman
:cool:

[Bonzo]

Yup,

I too have asked Gene about this and he said that Taiwan was considering it.

I'd buy more than one!

[drumwerker]

Bonzo - that's encouraging that they are at least considering it.

The rather lame BT-3 tom hole cover is one ugly looking mother, I just hope they don't make a version of that for the BB-3, becase there's no way I'd put an object like that on my bass drum


C'mon Taiwan - make a nice chrome badge to replace the BB-3!!

[weps]

Check out the HARDWARE section of the forum. See"How about a BB-3 Replacement cover?" poll.

26/39 (67%) voted "I'd buy one NOW". Might be helping our friends at Pearl to reintroduce the subject to headquarters ;>)

weps

[Jookbox]

lol, another one of these polls

[Virulence]

no! thats how i mount my toms!

[drummerboy223]

no if they put another small piece of metal on there it will jst look stupid. but if you want a rack in the first place you should have jst bought the bass drum with out the tom arm crap.

[drumwerker]

Originally posted by drummerboy223
no if they put another small piece of metal on there it will jst look stupid. but if you want a rack in the first place you should have jst bought the bass drum with out the tom arm crap.

Sessions, Exports, Forums were never produced by Pearl without a bassdrum mount. I don't think a bass drum cover would look stupid if it is made to fit the opening. What would look stupid would be a large exposed hole on top of the bassdrum, where the bracket used to be.

[Bonzo]

Dummerboy,

All SRX BD's come from the factory with the BB-3. You can special
order one w/o it but the lead time is approx. 6 mos. I've had this
kit for close to 6 yrs and just recently went with the DR503 to
end the tripod stand proliferation dilemma.

Since we are in suspense awaiting word from Pearl headquarters
regarding this matter and I don't have a fabrication facility at my immediate disposal, I have put my BB3 to use for something that it wasn't originally intended:

I have ping-pong balls hanging from the rack over the tom holder
holes and they get a periodic jet of evacuating air that sends them a dancin'. It's particularly lively when you don't have a mike hole in your resonant.

Well, enough said about my swinging balls. I still would prefer a nice Pearl logo badge of the proper radius....

[Drumhead7]

At this point in time I still use the mount to hold a tom and a cymbal boom arm. Although sometime in the future I'll be up-grading to a rack. And aside from getting another cymbal boom arm, I'd rather get a nice cover for it. Something like the exisiting badge logo that's on the toms but bigger. It would look incredible, IMO, with a BIG Sessions logo badge that matched the other logo badges that's on the toms but fit into the bb-3's existing screw holes.

What would you be willing to pay for one?
$40 - $50? More?

I'm curious.

[drumwerker]

I think somewhere in the $15-20 range would be about right. The BB-3 only goes for around $30.00.

Waddell's Drums (http://www.waddellsdrums.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page32.html)

Musician's Friend (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030217185541065030101242603651/search/g=home/detail/base_id/59640)

Brook Mays (http://www.brookmays.com/prod_disp.asp?itemnum=BB3BRACKET)

[ellioman]

I Voted no since I ordered ´em specially on my two kicks.. :D
I´m gonna use ´em to hold two cymbals!

[MMBosstonesDA]

I've got a forum and recently have started to put a rack together. The first thing I'm gonna do when I've got it assembled is rip off that damn bracket. It's not only the ugliest thing alive, it rattles. The tom hole cover they have out now is okay only because it goes with my set very well. If Pearl made a couple different covers, I think people would buy them.

Mike

[drumwerker]

Originally posted by MMBosstonesDA
I've got a forum and recently have started to put a rack together. The first thing I'm gonna do when I've got it assembled is rip off that damn bracket. It's not only the ugliest thing alive, it rattles. The tom hole cover they have out now is okay only because it goes with my set very well. If Pearl made a couple different covers, I think people would buy them.

Mike
What are you planning to use to cover the bass drum hole with once you pull out the bracket?

[luvmydrumz]

I would buy a cover. I put covers on my toms that Pearl makes, and I'd love to do the same with the bass drum.

[pearludrum]

Its a fandamntastic idea!! Maybe they could make a couple different models (logos) for the different lines of drums.

[MatthewWD]

I would get it today on my lunch break! I have never once had anything mounted in there. I tried it once but it was just a skosh too far forward for me. Great idea!!

[MFDFdrums]

i was just thinking about how nice that would be a couple days ago, id get one too.

[Jookbox]

in summary, the shops that can help you out:

http://www.drumdoctors.com/
http://www.stanbridgedrums.com/

and i'm assuming:
http://www.ocdrum.com/

Mr. Okamoto has said that you can probably take your drum to a trophy shop and they can make a metal plate to screw onto the hole.

Personally, 6 years ago, i took off the plate on my Exports and put a Pearl sticker over the hole. it had the Pearl logo with 'The Best Reason To Play Drums' on it. not very sturdy, but it worked for me.

it's so funny, you younger drummers have the internet to show your concerns, but as little as 5-10 years ago we had to use postal mail.

[drummerboy223]

that would be so ugly. plus if it was because the pieces were ratteling the you could just titen the braket up or you could (again) buy a bass drum with no braket, but with just solid wood.

[weps]

Drummerboy223,

Did you read why is was desired by others in this thread?

"that would be so ugly. plus if it was because the pieces were ratteling the you could just titen the braket up or you could (again) buy a bass drum with no braket, but with just solid wood."

Rattling was never a problem mentioned. IF I could afford a brand new drum set, masters level, AND had the time to wait the 6-9 months for it, I WOULD get the bass WITHOUT a BB3. The point is a big, unused, in the way, bracket on an existing kit. MOST Pearl kit's stocked at dealers all have the BB3 mounted on the bass. It requires a SPECIAL order to get one without, even a Masters set.

Pearl already makes a BT3 cover for those with older kits that remove the tom mount to add suspension mounts. They even make this nifty conversion kit to convert a floor tom to a small bass drum. Following your logic above, why can't everybody just buy a 18" or 16" bass drum instead of converting one from a tom?

It's about options desired by those who are otherwise happy with what they have and/or can't afford the top of the line kits. I already have my BB3 replaced with a flat black plastic piece.

weps

Boomer

[ellioman]

Weps !! Can you post a pic of it ??

I´m kinda interested to see how it looks....

[jamezzz122]

i'd def be in on this one.....i have the forum.....would the thingy even come off?

[drumwerker]

The BB-3 is attached inside the bassdrum with nuts. You can remove the entire bracket, but are left with the holes in the bass drum. A cover plate that is low profile height would be great. From the looks of the this poll, other similar polls and the overwhelming responses, this is something a lot of drummers would want to use.

Hopefully, Pearl will introduce something that is both classy and affordable.

[calumc]

I've got my toms on a rack so this is something that annoys me aswell - a big lump of useless metal stuck to the top of my bass!

[weps]

Sorry, no digital camera as yet. I was going to get one next month for my birthday but my computer fan decided NOT to work & fried the power supply & motherboard. Right now I have an older loaner from my daughter's boyfriend.

I just took the BB3 off and used the plastic inner liner and gasket as a pattern. I had some old clear acrylic about 1/8" (or a tiny bit thicker) to cut up. Since the holes would show through I painted it flat black so it wouldn't reflect much, including the edges. I use the normal BB3 screw holes but much smaller screws with the heads touched up in black. It's somewhat hidden under the rack bar which I keep as low as possible. The low bar is part of what prompted me to take the BB3 off.

weps

[Monday317]

I agree about having a saimple, elegant cover. Not sure if I'd prefer brass or chrome or satin, but surely something nice can be done, that won't cost an arm/leg/genital.

FYI: my BRX kit came with a BB-3, and at the time I ordered it, it wasn't mentioned one way or another (it's a B-stock kit). No complaint there, but I'd prefer to hang my toms from stands (which I've bought) instead of off the bass drum itself.

Each to his/her own, yes?

[Traps]

it would'nt be hard to fabricate your own plate. go to your local hardware store and buy a piece of sheet brass and cut it to size to cover holes and mounting screws. sheet brass is pretty cheap and its plyable so you can form it to the shape of the drum. Then look see if there is a plating company in your area and have it chromed. or take it to a local body shop for some paint. Most body shops have extra paint lying around that they would gladly give you and just charge labor for the spraying. Then you could put a Pearl sticker or some other logo on the plate. Such as "This kit made especially for (insert name here)":D

[Jookbox]

Originally posted by drummerboy223
that would be so ugly. plus if it was because the pieces were ratteling the you could just titen the braket up or you could (again) buy a bass drum with no braket, but with just solid wood.

huh?

[pj's studio]

Absolutely LOVE my bb-3

Will not go to a rack because. . .

IT IS ONE MORE THING I HAVE TO CARRY TO A GIG!!

No way will I switch ever, ever, ever... unless I get roadies and a big contract, tech guy's. . . etc.

...and since that's not going to happen - I will always find it easier to mount a tom or two off the bass PLUS I use a 14 or 16 inch crash right between my two ride toms (although I'm just using one ride tom currently.) directly above my bass w/a ch-88.

If I didn't use a BB-3 I WOULD Have to use a rack. No extra stuff to carry to the gig for me, no way. . . BUT

(you'll like this)

If so many of you rack guys want a plate to cover your bb-3 hole I would say Pearl should definitely offer it; "You want it you got it?"
A rack user that I know says he think's he should have a bb-3 in case he forgets a piece to his rack and can't set it up? I Never used a rack so I have no clue If that's an easy mistake to make... but this way he could set up without his rack. How's about you guy's 'Any contingency plans like that?'

To all of you rack guys; Good luck and dont throw your back out carrying that extra steel. I'll stick with my simple and lightweight mount.

Peace

[weps]

Hey PJ, are you the infamous PJW from drumset.com and elsewhere? If you are, it's boomer (elsewhere, but that was taken here).

I am BIG on take what you need and not a bunch of strength sapping extras. BUT since I use a rack getting rid of the BB3 IS getting rid of extra weight. Using the rack got rid of a lot of stand weight, I even mount my mics off it.

I think, that unless you are a very disorganized person (READ: fool) it's hard to leave parts of your rack behind. And IF you did ONCE, you'd NEVER do it again. Once my toms & cymbals are removed from my rack, I break it into two parts and slide it into the trailer. The ONLY alteration I make is tilting up my cowbell arm vertically at the multiclamp. A couple extra trips at the gig, true, but a huge time saver overall. Which is just as important.

weps

[Moonchild]

That would be amazing!!!

[satan40oz]

Make a cover plate I could use that little extra space under my rack

[pj's studio]

No, I'm the PJ with the awesome Joe Lowry Blues Band. I am Soooo lucky to have this gig. Disclaimer - Joe Lowry is the awesome one then there's one good bass player and me (+/-) - I may have 25 years behind the kit, tons of private study, Berkelee in Boston, recording sessions, references,. . . but I would tell anyone I still suck - and why not? I've seen Dennis Chambers, Vinnie Coluatia, Steve Smith, Weckl, Copland, and my newer favorite Carter Buford. Madman!

I digress;

I did realize multiple months ago that NO ONE cares about your drum sound (other than you and your band) and NO ONE cares how many drums you have or how cool your set up is (including your band) unless they are a kit player. That goes for everyone here. I'm not picking, just being honest.

I actually think people think more of your playing (other than being a great pocket player...) if you play good or great with less stuff. Currently I dont even have a cowbell on my current set up because I dont REALLY need it and it's one more darn thing to carry. I have lots of equipment but I only bring what is necessary.

I have a beautiful 18" Zildjian A. that I don't bring to gigs because it's too loud (not kidding) and I leave out PLENTY of other goodies - because, again, 'No one gives a dmn':(

I use one snare, one tom, one mounted floor. two crashes one splash, one ride and an inauspicious double pedal (hehehe... adds plenty of devil to my playing w/o anyone noticing it.) - It's just to much not to have a simple extra pedal in the set up. I have become a minimalist and my bb-3 IS A BIG part of the minimalist theory. Bonham instead of Peart I guess. Although I love Neil to death from when I first started playing.

I WOULD NEVER Disagree that a kick with a bb3 should be (IS) even more resonant / screaming without a vibration killing bb-3. But hey, I already play without a pillow, see my other posts about guys buying DW or starclassics and THEN putting tape on the heads (AHHHHH!!!!!!) 'Just buy a 400 kit and be done with it!'

God Bless you guys and enjoy the best Drums money can buy. My Pearls are going to be with me for a LOOOONNNNNNNNNNG time.

PEACE!

PJ

[satan40oz]

My opion probaly won't matter to you . Just enjoy playing screw what everyone else thinks

[weps]

I'm big on not hauling extras for just one or 2 songs myself. I only use my racked kit, 10,12,14,16 with 22 bass and 5x14 snare with my main band and it gets hauled in a trailer with the rack only pulled in half, no moving of parts. Just yank the toms off the TH98s and the cymbals off their booms and set the rack in the trailer last. I did cut down to just 2 percussion items, a cowbell and jamblock, and 3 crashes for that set.

My other kit is the one I use for everything else. 13 front on a snare stand, 15 floor tom, 22 bass (that was reveneered without a tom mount), snare varies, 2 crashes (one has a great piercing bell). I have a matching 18" floor tom for this kit that I sometime use as a bass. SO depending on a BB3 isn't in the cards for me anyways for my simpler drum set.

Of course, I also have hihats and a ride cymbal with each kit, but sometimes I use my 18" crash as the ride on the smaller kit.

weps

[pj's studio]

Cool. Your a minimalist in my book too.

I am VERY DISADVANTAGED in the 'moving of my kit' scenerio. I drive a medium / small car... If I had a trailer or pickup; a rack with all of the tom and cymbal mounts unmoved for a gig would be a great time saver! - Lugging the two extra pieces of steel is worth the set up time savings? I think so also.

That might go for me too - - - my gig bag is damn heavy with 855b's. ALTHOUGH it fits in my car better than a rack.

Actually, the moving your equipment part of drumming is better for me than for most non-minimalist players BUT IT IS still a sucky topic. I never hated moving my stuff that much, but it's a very part time job for me. Full time players who do this stuff without roadies...? Damn hard work.

Peace
PJ

p.s. - More comments/compliments this past weekend; A guy said, "You only use four cymbals and four drums... and a hi-hat of course" and after I thought about it I kind of laughed and said, "Hey, Your right." - not a drummer but he noticed the minimalist theory. kindacool

[As Sam Ojo]

yea. i think pearl needs to offer some sort of option to get rid of that mountiing thing. i hate it. i would buy one of those plate thingys. or a drum without a mounting thing. (sorry about not knowing the name of that off the top of my head)

[Moonchild]

I use my SRX with rack and that BB3 thing is completely useless! I think Pearl should make some kind of plate to cover it... I would buy it. DEFINITELY!

[Carl Peterson]

Sometimes it's not useless..I ran a cymbal boom arm,(CH88), through a PC50 off the rack, down into the BB-3 on the kick..It served as an anchor for the kick,and never moved while playing!!:D

Carl Peterson

[weps]

I thought you were going to report a replacement cover was in the works! Severe disappointment!

I've seen others anchor their bass drums to racks in the same and similar manners. USUALLY it was an older bass with boken/messed up spurs. They pull the spurs off and just hook the bass to the rack.

Before the JG16 came out, I hung my bass converted from 18" tom from my rack and used a homemade pedal adapter for the triple flanged rim, made using angle iron and an LP Claw. The set looked cute, 10x10 front, 11x13 side, 16x18 bass, all on a cut down tiny rack.

weps

[drumwerker]

Originally posted by Carl Peterson
Sometimes it's not useless..I ran a cymbal boom arm,(CH88), through a PC50 off the rack, down into the BB-3 on the kick..It served as an anchor for the kick,and never moved while playing!!:D

Carl Peterson
Carl,
I too was hoping that you read this thread and saw the overwhelming number of people who really want Pearl to offer a cover to replace the BB-3. Judging by this, and other similar threads on the the topics, this seems like a sure-fire winner for Pearl. My hope is that Pearl will really use the feedback in this forum to drive their Product Development. I know, this is just another boring metal assembly piece, not some awesome, decked-out, custom snare drum. But the people have spoken :)

Thanks

[drumwerker]

I looked at the trophy shop option, they didn't want to be bothered with something like this.

[satan40oz]

MAKE THE PLATE , COME ON MAKE THE PLATE . MAKE THE PLATE OR WE'LL ALL GANG UP AND BEAT SOME ONE WITH the BRACKET. I CAN SEE IT NOW CNN: FORTY PEOPLE BEAT UP AT THE LOCAL MUSIC STORE TODAY WITH A BASS DRUM Bracket made by Pearl . The angry mob was shouting we want the plate

[pj's studio]

You GUYS are TOO funny!!!
Just cause I like my bb-3 doesn't mean the plate shouldn't be made BUT...

Just remember having one fabricated with a rubber edge and/or engraving w/ "J. Bonham. . ." IS EASY and CHEAP.

... maybe now you guys'll stop picking on Carl...:p

Peace
PJ

[MrDrummer]

if u search for it i thinks its under first aid drumboo tells u how to make 1 set by set

[rimshot354]

Originally posted by drumwerker


Sessions, Exports, Forums were never produced by Pearl without a bassdrum mount. I don't think a bass drum cover would look stupid if it is made to fit the opening. What would look stupid would be a large exposed hole on top of the bassdrum, where the bracket used to be.
yes they do I have personally talked to someone at pearl about it and you can get the session series with out the bb3.....but it is a special order thing and you have to wait for it

[keyboarder8]

thats a really good idea, except, it wouldbe cool if pearl set up a program to send the bass drum and cover the hole with a piece of drum shell to match the drum...i don't know how that would work.

[satan40oz]

Make the plate

[Eliminator]

Pearl better get on this before someone else does to make a quick buck.....

c'mon pearl get on to this. How bout you guys make a prototype and send two of them to me and I'll write a review....

it's a win-win situation

elim

[GaP13]

YEAH!! make the plate! and remember... 2 bass drums means 2 plates! just don't make it too expensive... make something nice!

[higgz]

holy crap . . did i just read all of those posts?? i am now writing to the pearl drummers forum to kindly ask for the last 15 minutes of my life back :-) hehehheheh . .

i think it's clear that wherever you stand on this issue, there is enough interest in the product that pearl would probalbly sell a few of 'em . . certainly enough to justify the cost of getting it to market . .

personally (since i couldnt possibly NOT add my $.02 ;-) . . i would love the luxury of hauling a rack around . . unfortunaltely i have no room left car (i have to sit on the roof and steer with a rope that i wound around the steering wheel)

all joking aside . . i do think that whether you are a minimalist or you have every friggin gadget ever made, you need to feel comfortable when you sit down at your kit. if you look down during a gig and see your bracket and wish it wasnt there, then thats not good. for the sake of any of you guys in that boat, i hope pearl makes the dang piece asap.

i love my kit and i like how it looks and sounds and how the cymbals are set up and the color and the sizes, etc. . . . i'm happy when im playing it and i probalbly play better because im happy. kinda like the way you feel when you are wearing your favorite shirt or something . . . on the other hand, if i had a big ding in a drum, or had a tear in the front kick head, it'd bug me. it might not affect the sound, and maybe no one in the crowd would even notice . . but I'D KNOW it was there and it would bug me till i fixed it . . . i imagine that's kinda what you guys feel when you look down and see that big honkin' unused bracket . .

so . . . uhh . . . i forget what my point was. stay in school. don't do drugs.

[Xplora]

I'm absolutely ****ing amazed...

The BB3 replacement plate would be an OPTION to replace the BB3 with something more attractive. An AFTERMARKET option I'm sure!

The plate isn't going to stop BB3s being standard equipment on the lower end kits... Why Would You Oppose the Production of These?

R U CRAZY?!

:confused:

Carl, Gene, Anyone else who can do these things... We Want The Plate. Make it cheaper than a PC50 clamp and I think many rack users will jump at the idea.

[Eliminator]

I was hoping that at NAMM the would has suprised us all with a bracket cover. Too bad...there's always NAMM 2004.


elim

[pj's studio]

Hey I need a black bb3 for my small gigging masters kit. Black finish though... let me know! THANKS!
PJ

[.:On The Rock:.]

Hey I need a black bb3 for my small gigging masters kit. Black finish though... let me know! THANKS!
PJ
Do you want the cover or the bracket? The cover only comes in the natural finish of the aluminium (?) but the bracket comes in all the finishes.

[pj's studio]

Do you want the cover or the bracket? The cover only comes in the natural finish of the aluminium (?) but the bracket comes in all the finishes.

Yes, I want the black finish bb-3 tom mount. It mounts onto the bass drum and has holes for and holds up two toms. I know no one likes these except for old school guys like myself. . . one last stand that may be the stand that blows a disc in my back.

Thanks. Im just looking for one and I don't think Pearl Tenn or CA warehouse has any Maybe they do. Anybody know? :o

Regards
PJ