What should I add

[dbdrummersf]

Hi guys...I want to add to my cymbals.....I like to play jazz ...I already have: Zildjian K 20" ride, Zildjian A custom 15" crash, Zildjian K high hats....what should I add
Thanks!

[Sloouh]

As I see it you have two options, (Both any series, whatever compliments your current setup)

1) A larger crash, 16"/18"

2) A 10"/12" splash

Thats probably not a great lot of help to you but thats my view on it.

[cibersurfer]

i don't think that the splashes would be a good choice.
maybe the best thing to do would be to add another ride because it's the most important thing in jazz

[Ambion]

add a thin ride or a thin large crash. something dark to balance the 15" a.

[fartsinajar]

really, you dont need more than a hh, crash and ride for jazz as far as im concerned, but i suppose there are always upgrades to buy...

[dbdrummersf]

Thanks for the ideas.......I do like to play other types of music also....I only started drumming 5 months ago so I'm still experimenting with different sounds...I was thinking a small splash...and maybe a China Hat???? and now maybe a thin large crash!!!!!

[Blank]

You could get a swish, or large china to ride on. those always sound cool in jazz..a nice transition from the cleaner sounding ride.

[Blank]

Also, try out some rides with rivets also known as "sissles".

[Beattimyer]

Rivets seem to sound better in drier rides though. Just a thought. Anyways yah i play a lot of jazz. I have a K Custom Dry Light Ride...its sweet! Great alternative ride from my normal K Custom Dark. I used to have a bunch of ride cymbals and have them all up, 5 to be exact but needed to get rid of some as i move out of the traditional jazz into more a contemporary jazz. A flat ride is also a great option, i had a K Custom Flat, with a rattler attached(the rattler sits on my Dry light currently), i also had a K Constantinople Light ride, which is just a thunderingly low pitched, washy, and dark cymbal also good alternative ride or main ride for jazz. I have a K Custom Medium that i like to put on the far right, when i need something with a little more punch. I'm using 2 sets of hats now, and i was even before but had to get rid of the K/Z dynos when the mastersounds came out, that way i have something washier and loose at the main hat point for some direct playing and that killer chick sound on a remote pedal with the A Mastersounds. I would however like to get a set of K mastersounds instead for jazz, the A`s are really because my k custom dark`s don`t cut as well when i play rock or funk. I don`t set splashes up for traditional jazz, bebop, swing, etc. you don`t really need them as when you have the control of opening and closing your hats to get the quick sounds that you don`t really need often. Crashes i use a 15``and 18`` K Custom crashes, with a soft touch, i don`t touch them too often...the 18 more so than the 15, the 15 is splash like enough too, which is another reason i don`t use splashes. I stole this from dave weckl though, and it works very well as a funkier ride in jazz, even traditional...stack a 14`` mini-china on an 18`` thin crash, or like a 16`` china on a thin 20``crash, try different combination in a shop near you, and see what you like, i opted for what Dave used, which was a 14`` Mini-K China over an 18`` K Dark Thin Crash, only i got traditional finish as opposed to the brilliant finish he uses. A swish would be nice one of these days, i have my eyes set on the new Bosphorus Jeff Hamilton 22`` china. Typically though, 2 rides and a crash with a nice chick pair of hats, is more than enough to do anything within jazz. But i`m a cymbal slut.

[Blank]

How do you mount the china-crash combo? Wouldn't there be too much space between the hole of the china and the hole of the crash?

Thanks!

[pdawg]

Man, you gots to get a 22" K Custom Medium Ride cymbal--- so sweet for jazz, sweet for everything as a matter of fact.

[Beattimyer]

Originally posted by Blank
How do you mount the china-crash combo? Wouldn't there be too much space between the hole of the china and the hole of the crash?

Thanks!

Nope, they stack pretty much flush, there is a little gap between the bells, but not enough to make mounting them difficult, and it adds to that trashy, funky ride sound. If it were a 16" china, i would probably have some problems but 14" seems to be about right for an 18" cymbal. The K crash doesn't have that large a bell either, you have to really try out combinations in store to find what's right for you. The new Weckl stack looks interesting too, i just don't think brilliant finish cymbals work for me, 14" HHX Evolution Extra Thin China on an 18" Evolution Crash. I kind of want to try a 14" HHX Chinese on an 18" HHXtreme Crash too, that would be pretty trashy.

[Henster3000]

id say get ride of all the dark custom k and buy some nice and clear A customs because youll sound like a rocker playing jazz, get it?

[DrummerDave]

i would have to say a zildjian flat ride. they have a nice soft, layed back feel and sound great for jazz. Also i would suggest instead of getting a sizzle cymbal, you get a chain of small ball bearings and put that on top of the cymbal. That way you get he sizzle sound without drilling your cymbal!