Is this a screw up or what?

[Fixxxer]

Whats the deal with the two front toms on this mamma-jamma here?

[drummer111]

nothing is wrong is just the angle of the pic and the bass drum is pushed out farther and the toms closer thats it

[pappyhyde]

Yep - the only thing wrong with that kit is it's not in my jam room!

[pappyhyde]

Oh wait! The fade is backwards! Duh...

[StuckMojo]

yeah but the snare?......

hmmmm... dunno

[Fixxxer]

yeah...the FADE is backwards?!? whats the deal!

[Chris309]

Nah...Hook explained that a while ago...it's the lighting and shadows. I looked at it for quite a while and it made sense. That kit was up in the Pearl lounge at NAMM and they must've had track lighting. The shadow on the second tom looks like it's from a cymbal.

EDIT: I don't even think Epiarch could screw something up THAT bad, nevermind Pearl. ;)

[Fixxxer]

Nah...Hook explained that a while ago...it's the lighting and shadows. I looked at it for quite a while and it made sense. That kit was up in the Pearl lounge at NAMM and they must've had track lighting. The shadow on the second tom looks like it's from a cymbal.

EDIT: I don't even think Epiarch could screw something up THAT bad, nevermind Pearl. ;)


ohhh, ouch, cheapshot! :eek:

i guess the funny lighting would be an explination, but its so perfectly upside-down, that it caught my eye

[drummerbryan]

That's too bad that fade is messed up

gonna replace it?

[Fixxxer]

oh, i already sent it back to pearl, they're great about stuff like that... Best guys in the buisness



(just joking, its not mine, thats from NAMM)

[drumstickweaponry]

Well, I'd like to believe that was shadows. But even if it was, that wouldn't make the top of the tom lighter...its the same colour as the bottom of the fade on the other tom.
Or maybe its the other tom that is upside down....whatever the case, the tops and the bottoms are still opposite shades...

[punkrockdrummer]

It's just angles and lighting.

[Chris309]

Well, I'd like to believe that was shadows. But even if it was, that wouldn't make the top of the tom lighter...its the same colour as the bottom of the fade on the other tom.
Or maybe its the other tom that is upside down....whatever the case, the tops and the bottoms are still opposite shades...
I'm just curious, what makes you think that Pearl would be STUPID enough to:

1. Make a kit that screwed up

and

2. Bring it to NAMM of ALL places

Seriously, think about that for a minute.

And one CAN'T be upside down, look at the badges.

00**

[Dibs]

Well, I'd like to believe that was shadows. But even if it was, that wouldn't make the top of the tom lighter...its the same colour as the bottom of the fade on the other tom.
Or maybe its the other tom that is upside down....whatever the case, the tops and the bottoms are still opposite shades...
I didn't know you couldn't read.

[SpugIsGod]

That tom is upside down from what I can see but if you say so,I guess its not,dont see how not,but ok?

[russb66]

That tom is upside down from what I can see but if you say so,I guess its not,dont see how not,but ok?Take a close look at the bass drum - it doesn't look like this color is a fade.If it's not a fade, then it is the lighting.[Then again, I could be wrong.]

[Chris309]

OK, once again. If the tom were upside down, THE BADGE WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM LUGS.

[drumstickweaponry]

I didn't know you couldn't read.

*falls down dead*

[AL PERCIVAL]

Take a close look at the bass drum - it doesn't look like this color is a fade.If it's not a fade, then it is the lighting.[Then again, I could be wrong.]

Its just the lighting as both Chris and HOOK explained last week in another thread. That color is #142 Root Beer Fade.

[russb66]

Its just the lighting as both Chris and HOOK explained last week in another thread. That color is #142 Root Beer Fade.Thanks Al. It looks terrible either way since it is a false representation of the color.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Thanks Al. It looks terrible either way since it is a false representation of the color.

Yeah it did huh?

[russb66]

Yeah it did huh?Well, not terrible,but awkward.

[DVCSPL]

ive never seen a couch at any of the NAMM's ive been too.. must be a new addition...


(its in the background)

[Chris309]

Pearl had a lounge upstairs at the convention center.

I'm curious, if Hook already explained all of this, WHY do some people insist on beating it to DEATH?

[Tallica/Sevendust Freak]

I've never seen such a group of guys spin their wheels and get nowhere quicker. :) you made my night worth working with a flu. rep to you all lol :)

[doublebass263]

if that is supposed to be a fade, then the finish on the second tom is totally ****ed. the bottom is the same color as the middle. how can shadows make the bottom look light?

[pd_vf_z_10]

its obvious the skin is upside down, the tom isnt u can see the badge in the right place and everything

[xpearldrummer24/7]

I, personally, could give a **** what you have to say to justify it. In the picture, it looks like a mistake. Flame me if you want, that's just what I believe it looks like. :cool:

[Chris309]

I, personally, could give a **** what you have to say to justify it.
Good to know, thanks! And way to be mature about it too. :rolleyes:

...and the Reference shot where it looks like the fade is coming from opposite ends...that was a flash weird photo thingy doodad. I can find another picture of that kit...it was set up in the lounge upstairs.

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showpost.php?p=1846048957&postcount=22

Once again, anyone here who is REALLY naive enough to think that Pearl would bring a screwed up Reference Series kit to NAMM for its world debut just has no clue. Really. I've never seen an EXPORT screwed up like that. So what would make ANYONE think they'd screw up a Reference Series like that? It would never have left the factory first off, and even if it DID it CERTAINLY wouldn't have left Nashville with them for the show.

[xpearldrummer24/7]

Yea, but the fade's the same color on both toms, just reversed... I don't know, I just see something wrong it. I would like to see more pictures of that drum set, if anyone has them.

By the way, sorry for my assh0le statement, I went without sex last night, and so I had a ****ty morning :(

[Chris309]

By the way, sorry for my assh0le statement, I went without sex last night, and so I had a ****ty morning :(
http://chris309.com/emotes/laugh.gif OK, fair enough. I'll reverse the rep next time around. ;)

Actually Hook said he'd post a better pic of the same kit. That would be nice in this thread to clear this all up for us once and for all.

[Chris309]

its obvious the skin is upside down, the tom isnt u can see the badge in the right place and everything
Actually, there is no "skin". The Reference Series are stained and lacquered, not covered. ;)

[xpearldrummer24/7]

http://chris309.com/emotes/laugh.gif OK, fair enough. I'll reverse the rep next time around. ;)

Actually Hook said he'd post a better pic of the same kit. That would be nice in this thread to clear this all up for us once and for all.

Haha, you're the only one around here that actually signs negative rep. I admire your honesty.:p

And thanks bro:cool:

[Fixxxer]

Pearl had a lounge upstairs at the convention center.

I'm curious, if Hook already explained all of this, WHY do some people insist on beating it to DEATH?


My bad Chris, i missed that thread

i just found it an felt like i needed to bring it up

[Chris309]

My bad Chris, i missed that thread

i just found it an felt like i needed to bring it up
Oh I wasn't referring to you at ALL. Some others came in here and felt the need to keep arguing. You were just curious. To be honest, so was I when I first saw the pic.

[Tallica/Sevendust Freak]

What the hell is there to clear up???? You're all spinning your ******* wheels over what is probably a lighting issue regardless of who says what.....Accept it that humans err and even if I'm wrong and it was upside down, it's nothing to fret about. It doesn't change the quality of PEARL. It just means that humans actually do put the drums together themselves and not machines! lol

/wankers jk

[Tallica/Sevendust Freak]

p.s. The kit looks great. I can't wait to order mine...

[Slickleg]

explain to me that if it's a fade mistake, why is theyr no fade on the bass drum?

[IgiDrum]

Shadow would not do that. Ithink the fade is reverse by mistake.You can see mistake in MW catalog PG 3. It is a Silver to blue opaque finish.Fade on toms go silver on batter side an blue on reso side of the drum but on bass drum blue on batter and silver on reso side of the drum. When I order Mw I will make sure write down order of fade. :eek:

[Frederik W]

Whats the deal with the two front toms on this mamma-jamma here?

The fade is backwards... saw it right away...

[Dibs]

The fade is backwards... saw it right away...
I really hope to God you're joking.

[samy81]

It can't be only the lights! It is backward fades. I think this is just a "custom-options" kit.

[skowwer]

I took the image into photoshop to show you guys where the shadow is, the kit has zero fade. Just look at the image attached.

[Dibs]

I took the image into photoshop to show you guys where the shadow is, the kit has zero fade. Just look at the image attached.
Can't thank you enough.

[nastynorski]

I thinks its just beuuutiiiifulll!!!!!!!!
Besides: "THE ANGLE OF THE DANGLE IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONATE TO THE HEAT OF THE MEAT"

Reps to Chris309, Vince Lombardi said it all!!!!!!

[Tallica/Sevendust Freak]

Good god, let this fricken thread die! who cares if it was the lighting or if it was a screw up......Pearl doesn't come into your homes and tell you how crappy your kits look or how well you take care of them...lol.....Shouldn't some of you guys be playing your drums or off fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan? Whichever you think is more productive.
Accept the things you cannot change :P

[fast2ghl]

Good god, let this fricken thread die! who cares if it was the lighting or if it was a screw up......Pearl doesn't come into your homes and tell you how crappy your kits look or how well you take care of them...lol.....Shouldn't some of you guys be playing your drums or off fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan? Whichever you think is more productive.
Accept the things you cannot change :P

Take it easy man, chill out.... :rolleyes:

[antijezierski]

HOLY CRAP PEARL MESSED THAT TOM UP!!!
just kidding

[Tallica/Sevendust Freak]

lol