View Full Version : What about the Bearing-edges??
AnimalGLX
02-04-2005, 04:09 AM
If I compare the pictures from the bearings-edges on the Pearl website with the pics from Namm, the bearings-edges on the pic's from namm seem to be less round. Is there anybody who can tell me the exact specs of the new Bearing-Edges??
H.T.E.B
02-04-2005, 05:49 AM
Animal... one thing also is not clear - all written infos about 16" floor are that it is 8 ply thick... and other that only 18" floor is 8ply...
I'd like to get exact specs... on the photo which you have attached clearly states that 16x16 is 8ply thick... Hook reviev and Pearl web say different...
Also kicks 18" and 20" would be 6 ply (2 maple and 4 mahogany) and 22" 8ply...
I'm planning new set and those things are quite not clear for me...
cheers
Blind Willie Watson
02-04-2005, 06:44 AM
If I compare the pictures from the bearings-edges on the Pearl website with the pics from Namm, the bearings-edges on the pic's from namm seem to be less round. Is there anybody who can tell me the exact specs of the new Bearing-Edges??
That's because some are "Fully Rounded" and some are "Rounded 45" they are different shape bearing edges.
Not all drums will have the same bearing edge. It depends on the size of the shell as to what type of bearing edge it will have.
:D
DeepThought
02-04-2005, 09:07 AM
Looking at the drum perpendicular to the edge will make it look slightly different than the cross-section views in the 3D drawings. Obviously, go by what you see on actual shells over computer drawn images.
But they are probably closer than they look. Look at the drawings the same way the view on the whole shells is and they look spot-on.
AnimalGLX
02-04-2005, 04:29 PM
What I'm trying to say is that the "rounded 45" bearing-edges (8", 10", 12" tom) on the NAMM pics looks like this.
AnimalGLX
02-04-2005, 04:30 PM
Instead of this.
Akahito
02-04-2005, 04:48 PM
For so much that it matters, that's the only difference. The area the head will be touching is the outer part of the edge that is rounded in both versions.
AnimalGLX
02-04-2005, 05:08 PM
You're are absolutely right about that.
Bigdave
02-04-2005, 05:34 PM
As far as I have seen, it goes like this:
Toms ~ 8",10",12",14"
- 6 plys thick
-45' "Rounded" bearing edge
Toms ~ 16",18",
- 8 plys thick
- "Full Rounded" bearng edge
Kick Drum ~ 22"
- 8 plys thick
- "Full Rounded" Bearing edge
H.T.E.B
02-04-2005, 10:04 PM
As far as I have seen, it goes like this:
Toms ~ 8",10",12",14"
- 6 plys thick
-45' "Rounded" bearing edge
Toms ~ 16",18",
- 8 plys thick
- "Full Rounded" bearng edge
Kick Drum ~ 22"
- 8 plys thick
- "Full Rounded" Bearing edge
Bigdave - are you sure that 16x13 and 16x16 are the same thickness and own same type of bearing edge ?
It is very important for me... as I'm going to place order in next week... :)
I wish to have 8ply 16" drum and thought it is available only as floor tom... of course I can order floor and hang it as flying-tom but it would be quite heavy :(
I'm still not sure...
thanks
:)
SpugIsGod
02-05-2005, 12:28 AM
As long as the drums sound good,who gives a **** about the bearing edge.
Are you gonna drool over your beautiful bearing edges all day or are you gonna play the damn things?
From David Silveria I quote "**** It,Just Play!"
Cheers,Spug
ADman2B
02-05-2005, 06:18 AM
Bigdave - are you sure that 16x13 and 16x16 are the same thickness and own same type of bearing edge ?
It is very important for me... as I'm going to place order in next week... :)
I wish to have 8ply 16" drum and thought it is available only as floor tom... of course I can order floor and hang it as flying-tom but it would be quite heavy :(
I'm still not sure...
thanks
:)
16x13 would be 6 ply
16x16 would be 8 ply
Fixxxer
02-07-2005, 08:00 PM
dude, its just a funny angle, they are rounded
joshalberg
02-07-2005, 08:28 PM
Ok here guys.. from the Pearl Reference website.. all shell thicknesses/edge types.
16" x 13" tom
4 inner plies Mahogany
2 outer plies Maple
Rounded 45° Bearing Edge
14" x 11" tom
2 inner plies Mahogany
4 outer plies Maple
Rounded 45° Bearing Edge
10" x 8" tom
2 inner plies Birch
4 outer plies Maple
Rounded 45° Bearing Edge
12" x 9" tom
6 plies Maple
Rounded 45° Bearing Edge
13" x 10" tom
2 inner plies Mahogany
4 outer plies Maple
Rounded 45° Bearing Edge
14" x 14" tom
2 inner plies Mahogany
4 outer plies Maple
Fully Rounded Bearing Edge
16" x 16" tom
2 inner plies Mahogany
4 outer plies Maple
Fully Rounded Bearing Edge
18" x 16" tom
6 inner plies Mahogany
2 outer plies Maple
Fully Rounded Bearing Edge
14" x 5" Snare drum
6 inner plies Birch
14 outer plies Maple
45° Bearing Edge
22" x 18" Bass Drums
6 inner plies Mahogany
2 outer plies Maple
Fully Rounded Bearing Edge
Xplora
02-07-2005, 10:53 PM
Abandon all this specification silliness.
Check out the latest 2005 combo.pdf pricelist. All the info is there in the Reference area. Plys and edges vary quite a lot, and its well worth your time to check them all out if you are interested in such things.
I discovered that only the 22" kick is coming in a 20" depth this year... :eek: the catalogue knows all! ;)
What I'm trying to say is that the "rounded 45" bearing-edges (8", 10", 12" tom) on the NAMM pics looks like this.
Hi,
they also look like the bearing edges of my 80's BLX kit.
Nils
Tabla_Man
02-22-2005, 12:59 PM
For so much that it matters, that's the only difference. The area the head will be touching is the outer part of the edge that is rounded in both versions.
Not sure I fully understand what you're saying. The differnece is a rounded 45 has less contact with the head than a fully rounded. The fully rounded "edge", is used for the larger drums to provide for a more focused sound with less overtones.
Alot of people now who use the common place 90 degree cut (or double 45 degree as Pearl referrs to it), use different drum heads on their floor toms and larger toms to cut down on overtones (i.e. coated ambassadors on the smaller toms and powerstroke 3's on the floor toms).
By using the rounded edges on the larger drums you eliminate alot of the problems people have with this, without the need to use tone controll rings, etc.
It's a fairly simple concept, but really this is the biggest breakthrough of this series to me, and not the various wood types.
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