CARL PETERSON HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!! NEED YOUR EXPERTISE RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!

[POOKY]

I don't know if this thread even fits here but I know you're inOkay, a couple of days ago I went out to a lot of music store to buy a wooden snare to make vents in the shell. Exactly like OCDP. A lot of people have done it on here and I thought I would do it too. So I went a store by my hometown and I saw my dream snare drum. It's the Limited Edition Master's Mahogony snare drum with the gold hardware for $250!!!. I couldn't pass that up and it's in mint condition. It's 14x6.5, I'm positive you know what I'm talking about. I'm going to vent it, is there any problem with that? Too thin of shell, type of wood etc. . .? This is my dream snare and I'm sick of practicing Ghost notes and people not hearing them at clubs and such. I want to play this snare at every show because it looks beautiful but I want every little ghost note to be heard. I'm huge into paradiddle beats and I want to be Vinny C. Plus, I think it would be cool to add my own flavor to my dream snare. Just wanted to know your expertise Carl thanks. I tried to email you but your webbox is full. Also, I don't have the money to go out and buy another snare and still keep this one. Pearl sure did an awesome job making this one. Basically, I wouldn't want to have any other snare else, except having vents in it.

Take care.

[POOKY]

Another off note, today I was tuning it with a drum key, do you know if that will scratch the lug nuts? How durable is the gold finish on the hardware?

[TLD]

If you are going to be miced up at the clubs, you don't need the vents really. With some proper EQ, they (ghosts) will bring themselves out. In my eyes, after I have played TONS of vented snares at NAMM, the only reason for vents is increased volume in non-mic situations. And if you have a high powered snare and then mic it, the ghost notes will come out, but you may be excessively loud. I heard a live recording of Travis Barker with his vented snare, and it was just rude (musically). It was too loud. If you can get some high-sensitivity expensive snare mics for top and bottom heads for live shows, then it should work out. But whatever you do is your own choice. I know I'm not Carl, but I just felt like replying, because I used to be interested in vents until I actually played some of them. Hope you like it!

[Blank]

NO, TLD, NO. I went to the warped tour and stood 10 feet away back stage at tons of band's gigs there (and since it's all punk, they all used vented snares) and the snare blended perfectly. But that was outdoors too...

Obviously if you do that, you won't need a mic. BUT, the sound does change, besides getting louder. It gets a little bit dryer, and has this SWEET hollow crack. VERY appealing.

Good luck!

[SLIPKNOT1]

Blank, you still need a mic, vented or not, the snare is not going to overpower a wall of speakers. You just wont need to have the snare volume in the mixer up as high.

[Butnutz]

It's the Limited Edition Master's Mahogony snare

YOUR GOING TO VENT A LIMITED EDITION MASTERS MAHOGANY CLASSIC!!! AAHGHHH!!(no offense, but i would NEVER EVER vent a drum like this, you can prolly sell it on ebay for twice what you paid and buy an OCDP sane if you want one so bad)

[Lost At... SRX]

FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T GO ANYWHERE NEAR THAT DRUM WITH ANYTHING TO CUT IT UP OR VENT IT!!

Pick up a cheap wood snare and have a go at venting it, and see how it goes. Just leave that MHX snare as it is!!

[TLD]

Originally posted by Lost At... SRX
FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T GO ANYWHERE NEAR THAT DRUM WITH ANYTHING TO CUT IT UP OR VENT IT!!

Pick up a cheap wood snare and have a go at venting it, and see how it goes. Just leave that MHX snare as it is!!

Yeah seriously that was my first reaction.:rolleyes:

AND blank, I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. What was the ALL CAPS scolding for?

[drummerman765]

yea i don't know i've been to a show just recently were the guy used a ocpd vented snare and the mixer guy isn't even that good at mixing i should know because i had played with my band 2 weeks before hand at the same place, anytways yea the vented snare is great but i would have to argee thogh with that one guy i don't rember who but he said just buy a ocpd and have them put the vents in there own snare because i wouldn't trust my self with that nice of snare next to a sharp object because u don't want to have the snare turn out to sound crapy mabe if u have the money save the pearl and use it now but then also try some more vented snare and after a little bit if u stil like the sound then buy the ocpd and use it as a second snare

[drumwerker]

Pooky,
Put the power tool down and step away from the snare... :eek:

I would have to agree with what some others have already said. If you want a vented shell, buy one that has already been designed and built that way from the start. I wouldn't be "experimenting" with drilling holes in a snare drum shell. The OCDP and other vented drums have undergone significant tweaking and experimenting by experts before they achieved the sound that they wanted. You risk ruining the drum sonically or cosmetically.

This reminds of putting a lift kit on a Porsche 911.

[AntiConformist]

if you feel the absolute need to vent your own snare, try it on a keller shell... not that beautiful piece of wood.

[Blank]

Originally posted by TLD


Yeah seriously that was my first reaction.:rolleyes:

AND blank, I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. What was the ALL CAPS scolding for?

I think I was trying to stress that you need to hear these snares in a lot of situtions before saying such things.

[ab]

would you buy ferrari and purposely crash it?????

[POOKY]

Well, I did it tonight. This is my dream snare guys, and the only thing that it didnt' have, was the ability in clubs to hear my ghost notes, so I went ahead and did it. Sure, it's a beautiful drum but it's something I felt needed to be done. Now, I have NOT ONLY have my dream snare, I have my dream sound as well. Pearl did an awesome job making this snare, that's why I bought it, I just added my OWN sound to it, I didn't ruin it or trash it. It sounds beautiful guys. You'd love it. I'm not into punk or anything, I love Vinny C. and are mostly into Jazz. And It sounds amazing. I'm going to play in at a show tomorrow, I let you all know how it works out with the full band. But no, I would NEVER buy a ferrari and crash it, I would put a better free flowing exhaust and a new performance chip in it and put some new rims on it, TO make it unique and my own.

[teamsleepie]

i hope you atleast had the decensy to vent it correctly. Make sure it centered, use pilot holes, beveled the hole edges, laquered the hole.....right?

[drumwerker]

Nay! He'll probably put a "better free flowing exhaust pipe" on it and a turbocharged batter head. Sorry Pooky!

Pooky, I'm glad you are happy with the results. It took a lot of guts to cut a hole in a rare drum and risk having it sound like you were beating a Kleenex box. You're a braver soul than me.

[POOKY]

Hey, back from the show! The snare sounds AMAZING, even my girlfriend who never listens to the drums noticed a difference, She was like, you were playing like crazy today, when I was playing how I always do! She could hear the ghost notes! The snare has a lot of warmth yet has a lot of crack when I really lay into it and rim shot on it. And the thing that gets me is, even with the four holes, it still rings a lot. I'm very pleased with the drum. It'll be on our new CD. Here's my band's website, triedbyfire.net
Yeah, I know how you feel, personally, I only like the snare because of the size and the gold die cast rims and hardware, not to mention the beautiful finish. I'm not a big fan on mahogony personally. So I thought, "Well, if it sounds bad, I'll just buy a keller maple shell and build my own, plus I'll still have the diecast hoops and all the gold hardware (not to mention the pearl badges). I mean, I can't stand it when people buy corvettes and never drive them, so I wasn't going to put this snare in it's case and just collect, I'm going to play it, and it needed something more. and now it does. And no, I didn't even think of laquering the hole, I was thinking about having Gold Inserts made, or going to Lowes and buying some stripping I can put around the holes. Kind of the like the bass drum hole protectors, but that'll probablly look ugly.

[Joey]

Damn, I would have really loved to see that end badly. Something about people doing stupid things (no offence) makes me laugh. Oh well...I guess the second best thing that could happen is a happy ending.

[drumwerker]

Originally posted by Joey
Damn, I would have really loved to see that end badly. Something about people doing stupid things (no offence) makes me laugh. Oh well...I guess the second best thing that could happen is a happy ending.

Hey, it could still happen!?! I just hope we don't see a post a few weeks from now saying "Help - my snare drum is going out of round!!!" or "Stress cracks - what could this be from???"

[AntiConformist]

lets all have a moment of silence for this once beautiful snare drum...

[newbeat]

pictures?

[POOKY]

Yeah, you all are just jealous. I think I might etch my signature under the badge and call it my signature model. just joking. Nothing's going to happen, if I does, oh well, at least I lived and strived for something unique. The sound guy even complimented me on it. Geez, it's a drum, why don't I build a shrine and worship it?

[drumwerker]

I don't think anyone ever suggested enshrining the snare or putting it in a case, or worshipping it. Some of us actually use them for precisely the reason we bought them - because they are already unique.

I've never bought a rare drum so I could scavenge parts. Based on what you stated in this thread, the only compelling things you liked about it were the superhoops and gold hardware, and I think some others like myself were encouraging you to not risk devaluing it or risk damaging it.

I'm glad you are satisfied with the sound you've created, hope the shell holds up. LOL

[POOKY]

Thanks. I understand where you're coming from and I didn't mean to sound pushy or mean. I apologize. It's my snare, and not yours, thanks for your input. I'm sure it won't crack but I've though about all these thing and were willing to take that risk.

[Dex]

YOU DRILLED INTO IT!!!!!!!!!! AGHHHH MY @#$% HEART!!!!!

Seriously, if it worked out for you then best wishes.

[Fixxxer]

yeah, no offense, but that was f***ing stupid


but lets see some pics anyway

[fatboy46]

pooky.. hey, it IS your drum!!.. just dont start buying any of the collectors stuf.. like Wood Dyansonics, Radio Kings... etc :D

[Carl Peterson]

Sorry POOKY..didnt see this post til it was too late..I hope you dig it...It is after all.."your drum"...

Thanks,Carl

[AntiConformist]

until it was "too late"... haha, Carl seems to be on the same page as most of us. Good thing you didn't do it to a MW snare, you might have sent Carl into shock.

[Carl Peterson]

Naw...I throw my MW kits around like rags....They are so durable..Im happy for him if he digs the drum...

[Phiznat]

I think you guys are hilarious! Build a shrine and worship it lol...But really if the guy wants to take fire to a 1000 dollar bill, theres probably not a whole lot you can do, especially if you've tried giving your input. I wouldnt personally drill a hole myself, if I did id have a pro do it. But hey if the shoe fits.........it fits. hmmm..