Pearl Export 1980

[Ingo Schwartz]

Hi there new member 00**

Im a 22 years old drummer from Iceland. I have been playing for almost 9 years now and loving every second of playing. I have´nt been playing much for the last 7 months or so due to a broken foot, but now im back on the saddle.

I bought these yesterday.

1980 Pearl Export

it needs a lot of work witch include...

Re-wrap
Paint lugs & hoops
skins ( duh )
Rack

and so much more :)

so here are 3 pics of the set as it is now

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_170846266428_626536428_3083588_714797_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_170846276428_626536428_3083589_2266409_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_170846281428_626536428_3083590_4879469_n.jpg

I know the pics are BAD but I really just wanted to say hello :o

sorry for the bad english :p

[masonx7]

Can't wait to see the outcome. I'm a fan of the hoops on your snare :)

[nova]

Wellcome to the PDF and the Zone!! Dust and polish and you'll have a great kit!

[Dudders]

What colour wrap are you gonna put on it?:D

[Ingo Schwartz]

thx

do you know if i can get another 22X18 bass drum and 18x16 floor for this set ?

and what wood is it made of ? it is single ply ( i think, just see one type of wood, and its kind of dark, can´t get the heads of to check it out better at the moment due to a lost drumkey :( )

thanks in advance :D

[Ingo Schwartz]

What colour wrap are you gonna put on it?:D

curious much ? :p

i have so many colors in mind i cant even put them all on the page, but some of the colors i might go for are...

NeonGreen
Gold Mirror ( would be the only one in iceland )
Chrome Mirror
Candy apple red
DarkDarkDark blue
blood red
green sparkle
White with white hardware
black with white Hardware
White with red hardware ( don´t think i´ll do that one heh! )

and so many more :o

[Dudders]

http://www.jamminsam.com/deepblue_glass_on_drums_1.htm

[Ingo Schwartz]

http://www.jamminsam.com/deepblue_glass_on_drums_1.htm

way to "normal" for me. I want a drumset that will stand out from all the other Exports, but since it is a "vintage" drumset maybe I should put "normal" color on it and freak out with a younger kit ? :p

[pearlygates]

Wellcome to the PDF and the Zone!! Dust and polish and you'll have a great kit!
I would almost have to agree.
1980 was the first "EXPORT" Export series kits, that is post 1970s President exports (?)
Anyway, to me and alot of vintage drum guys, you may be doing this 30 year old vintage Export a grave injustice by painting or replacing unbroken hoops or hardware with some neon flashy aftermarket stuff.
If it were mine, I would strip the shells of all HW and bust out the elbow grease, actually chrome polish... to polish the lugs and other shiny bits.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/X7drums/PearlExport1980.jpg

For the shells you can use a multi surface "windex" type cleaner. Avoid harsh solvents that can dull and ruin any shine left on the wrap finish. If you can get this stuff where you are located on the globe..GET IT! It works on chrome, wrap finishes, lacquer finishes..even GLASS! It cleans, polishes and protects,. The best stuff on the market here in the USA. WINZER Reflection surface enhancer.. Formerly called POWER CHORD Guitar de gunker.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/X7drums/Decorated%20images/winzerjoose004.jpg

[pearlygates]

and what wood is it made of ? it is single ply ( i think, just see one type of wood, and its kind of dark, can´t get the heads of to check it out better at the moment due to a lost drumkey :( )

thanks in advance :D

A drummer with only 1 tuning key?!?!?! Unheard of!;)

Anyway I believe that your EX is made from multiple ply open grain Asian Luan mahogany wood.

[Ingo Schwartz]

A drummer with only 1 tuning key?!?!?! Unheard of!;)

Anyway I believe that your EX is made from multiple ply open grain Asian Luan mahogany wood.

I sold EVERYTHING when I broke my leg. :(

I would almost have to agree.
1980 was the first "EXPORT" Export series kits, that is post 1970s President exports (?)
Anyway, to me and alot of vintage drum guys, you may be doing this 30 year old vintage Export a grave injustice by painting or replacing unbroken hoops or hardware with some neon flashy aftermarket stuff.
If it were mine, I would strip the shells of all HW and bust out the elbow grease, actually chrome polish... to polish the lugs and other shiny bits.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/X7drums/PearlExport1980.jpg

For the shells you can use a multi surface "windex" type cleaner. Avoid harsh solvents that can dull and ruin any shine left on the wrap finish. If you can get this stuff where you are located on the globe..GET IT! It works on chrome, wrap finishes, lacquer finishes..even GLASS! It cleans, polishes and protects,. The best stuff on the market here in the USA. WINZER Reflection surface enhancer.. Formerly called POWER CHORD Guitar de gunker.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/X7drums/Decorated%20images/winzerjoose004.jpg

well...

the wrap is ruin, all covered in swirls and dings ( banged up ) must have got a terrible treatment from the previous owner :(

but yes you are true about the unjustice, I have actually been thinking about this all day, first I thought off White with blue "true flames" LOL

but im thinking about just new black wrap on it and put a little shine to the hardware ( done that before )

or maybe plain white with the original hardware.

But to be truly honest I did NOT know that 1980´s Export was the first Export :eek: so that got me thinking a bit now...

will keep you updated :cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

Well I took the 10" apart and took a look inside, I´ll let the pictures do all the talking...

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_172302381428_626536428_3100183_8326176_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302391428_626536428_3100184_461772_n.jpg
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http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302406428_626536428_3100187_620516_n.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_172302846428_626536428_3100189_806688_n.jpg

[HumppaInferno]

thx

do you know if i can get another 22X18 bass drum and 18x16 floor for this set ?

and what wood is it made of ? it is single ply ( i think, just see one type of wood, and its kind of dark, can´t get the heads of to check it out better at the moment due to a lost drumkey :( )

thanks in advance :D


I don´t think that you´ll find these drums....

As far as I know the only sizes that were produced in the export series at this time were 8´´,10´´,12´´,13´´,14´´ racktoms , a 16´´floortom and a 22´´ bassdrum.

The only choice were different depths of the shells (for example 22x16 or 22x14 for the bassdrum or 13x11 or 13x9 for the racktoms).

I desperately want a second floortom for my kit. The only thing I can do is waiting until a second 16´´ comes along my way or to snag a DLX floor in wine red which comes closest to the finish of my drums.

I own a 1983 ELX. Finding single drums of these ones is even more difficult.
6 years ago I found an 8´´ tom. That was all I found so far.....

[Ingo Schwartz]

I don´t think that you´ll find these drums....

As fas as I know the only sizes that were produced in the export series at this time were 8´´,10´´,12´´,13´´,14´´ racktoms , a 16´´floortom and a 22´´ bassdrum.

The only choice were different depths of the shells (for example 22x16 or 22x14 for the bassdrum or 13x11 or 13x19 for the racktoms).

I desperately want a second floortom for my kit. The only thing I can do is waiting until a second 16´´ comes along my way or to snag a DLX floor in wine red which comes closest to the finish of my drums.

I own a 1983 ELX. Finding single drums of these ones is even more difficult.
6 years ago I found an 8´´ tom. That was all I found so far.....

well the setup I have is...

10tom
12tom
13tom
15floor (w/tomtom mount(this one has different logos then the other drums, so not from the same original kit ? ))
16floor
22bass
14 Snare

but if I cant get other drums for this kit then it will just have to stay the same :)

[Paint Shaker]

If I recall correctly, Pearl offered a 9 piece Export kit in the mid-late 80s that had a 16x18 or 18x18 floor tom. I always wanted one, but never had the jingle.

So I bought a 5 piece Export and it came with a World series snare and tom holders. The sizes are the deeper shells; 12x10 & 13x11 racks, 16x16floor and 16x22 bass. I later found an Export expansion pack consisting of an 8x10and a 14x12 with two 3-hole adapters and World series tom holders. Lastly I found another Export 16x22 bass. Never did get an 18x18 floor tom.

[nova]

Well I took the 10" apart and took a look inside, I´ll let the pictures do all the talking...

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_172302381428_626536428_3100183_8326176_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302391428_626536428_3100184_461772_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302396428_626536428_3100185_140995_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302401428_626536428_3100186_6999363_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs106.snc3/15337_172302406428_626536428_3100187_620516_n.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15337_172302846428_626536428_3100189_806688_n.jpg

I believe that Luan; also called Philipine Mohogany is the wood that your kit was made with! Good luck on the refurbrish! :p:D:cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

I believe that Luan; also called Philipine Mohogany is the wood that your kit was made with! Good luck on the refurbrish! :p:D:cool:

thanks ;)

cleaning up my drum room (garage) so I can work on them in there :)

[nova]

thanks ;)

cleaning up my drum room (garage) so I can work on them in there :)

You know; my 88 Export bass was 22" x 16" too instead of 22" x 18".

[Ingo Schwartz]

can you post more pics of your kit ?

but i´m having a bit of a delema and dont want to make another thread in the cymbal section...

I´m not in a band and not recording, I dont have much cash to spend on cymbals. After finishing the kit I want to buy cymbals ( since I sold all the Paiste I had ).

How is the sound from PST5 ? is it ok for their price ? better then dream cymbals ???

thanks in advance :)

[nova]

can you post more pics of your kit ?

but i´m having a bit of a delema and dont want to make another thread in the cymbal section...

I´m not in a band and not recording, I dont have much cash to spend on cymbals. After finishing the kit I want to buy cymbals ( since I sold all the Paiste I had ).

How is the sound from PST5 ? is it ok for their price ? better then dream cymbals ???

thanks in advance :)

Those picts were photographs that I had e mailed to me (not digital); hence the long blank following each pict. If Paistes are so high in Iceland; do they have Sabians AA series? Sabians rock and it would be insane to pay that much!

[Ingo Schwartz]

Those picts were photographs that I had e mailed to me (not digital); hence the long blank following each pict. If Paistes are so high in Iceland; do they have Sabians AA series? Sabians rock and it would be insane to pay that much!

allrightythen

but yes there is a store with Sabian AA but all cymbals are hugely expencive now cuz of the dollar, 1 dollar = 125isk.

and the pay is low also cuz of taxes and the financial crisis.

[nova]

allrightythen

but yes there is a store with Sabian AA but all cymbals are hugely expencive now cuz of the dollar, 1 dollar = 125isk.

and the pay is low also cuz of taxes and the financial crisis.

I would shop around! At musiciansfriend.com; this pack is $349.00 + shipping to Iceland. My Sabians are old but they still rock!!!

[Ingo Schwartz]

I would shop around! At musiciansfriend.com; this pack is $349.00 + shipping to Iceland. My Sabians are old but they still rock!!!

I will check it out thank you :D

dont think they ship to iceland though :/

[nova]

I will check it out thank you :D

dont think they ship to iceland though :/

Call them!!

[nova]

Did you take a peak at my EXR's? They're comming up on their 3rd birthday and I've trimmed them to a 7pc w/ 2/3's of the Rack.:D:cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

yes I love your EXR complete pron !!!

but I checked out the prizes on musiciansfriend and it is cheaper to buy here in Iceland ;)

[nova]

yes I love your EXR complete pron !!!

but I checked out the prizes on musiciansfriend and it is cheaper to buy here in Iceland ;)

That's crazy high! Denmark used to be the trading capital of the world. Maybe you could buy there for less and they wouldn't have so far to ship?

[Ingo Schwartz]

That's crazy high! Denmark used to be the trading capital of the world. Maybe you could buy there for less and they wouldn't have so far to ship?

I will check that out, I can have it shipped as a gift so it has no taxes cuz my cousin lives in denmark :)

[nova]

I will check that out, I can have it shipped as a gift so it has no taxes cuz my cousin lives in denmark :)

Well worth a try my friend!! Let me know how it turns out!!!:D:cool:

[nova]

Sabian now makes;" SR2's" which are good Sabians totally reconditioned. They sell for less than AA's!

[spx118]

Nice buy.:) If it were me, I would get some new black wrap, clean the hardware and get some heads and then call it good.:) Congrats on getting back into it.:)

[Ingo Schwartz]

Nice buy.:) If it were me, I would get some new black wrap, clean the hardware and get some heads and then call it good.:) Congrats on getting back into it.:)

thats my plan bud, and think you :)

I´m going to finish the garage next weekend, paint one tractor and THEN finally I can get on the drum restoration :)

this is my latest thinking on set-up ( cymbals are just to see how the Ride and HH would be on those setups )

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs058.snc3/14566_177301841428_626536428_3142003_6364465_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs078.snc3/14566_177301861428_626536428_3142004_2179683_n.jpg


can´t deside :(

I HATE having the "traditional" set-up with 10" 12" 13" RT and 15" 16" FT becouse the 13" is so hard to reach for me and the Ride is in the middle of nowhere ( I use it alot in my music ), and I fear the 3FT setup cus the 16" would be to hard to reach, so one of those 2 setups will be the finished setups :)

tell me what you think :)

[3pearlkits]

I've come in a bit late, so welcome to the PDF from me!

I am really intrigued, how did you work out your Exports are from 1980?
The export time line suggests Exports started in 1982.

And Pearlygates, nah the Presidents exports were not the forerunner to these drums, any variant of the Presidents was "high end"...

Good luck with your resto

[Ingo Schwartz]

I never knew for shure, the previous owner told me they were 1980 and I belived him.

[Ingo Schwartz]

I might be getting another bassdrum :)

it actually is my old bassdrum 2003 EX, will not be using it with the otherone due to different sounds from the drums, thinking about quattro kick ( right handed on the right one and left handed for the left one, if they fit )

that actually changes the setup ideas completely if I get it :o

funfunfun
:D

[pearlygates]

And Pearlygates, nah the Presidents exports were not the forerunner to these drums, any variant of the Presidents was "high end"...

Good luck with your resto
I was more implying the name reference as not to be confused with...

I am learning. ... sorta:o

[3pearlkits]

I never knew for shure, the previous owner told me they were 1980 and I belived him.

Right then :)

So have you worked out when the kit is from yet?

[Ingo Schwartz]

Right then :)

So have you worked out when the kit is from yet?

no I have not, there are serial numbers on the badges on each drum, will that give anyone a clue ?

I really want to know when this kit was made :)

[pearlygates]

no I have not, there are serial numbers on the badges on each drum, will that give anyone a clue ?

I really want to know when this kit was made :)
I would send Al Percival a PM. He can check with Gene Okamoto. I have heard that Gene O is the guy with access to archive serial #s.

[3pearlkits]

I would send Al Percival a PM. He can check with Gene Okamoto. I have heard that Gene O is the guy with access to archive serial #s.

Oh that's interesting...
I thought, nope I'm sure, that serial numbers have only been recorded against manufacture date and year recently, only for high end Pearl drums like Ref and MW.

For the rest of us, serial numbers help with insurance and that's it!

[pearlygates]

Oh that's interesting...
I thought, nope I'm sure, that serial numbers have only been recorded against manufacture date and year recently, only for high end Pearl drums like Ref and MW.

For the rest of us, serial numbers help with insurance and that's it!

I'm going purely on heresay..:rolleyes:

I have also seen in browsing the 'Pearl History' tab, that Pearl did release the Export in 1980
http://www.pearldrum.com/About-Pearl/Pearl-Drum-History.aspx

[3pearlkits]

I'm going purely on heresay..:rolleyes:

I have also seen in browsing the 'Pearl History' tab, that Pearl did release the Export in 1980
http://www.pearldrum.com/About-Pearl/Pearl-Drum-History.aspx

Hey Pearlygates,
No worries mate...
I was just looking at the timeline in history as well and yes I can see a 1980 export flyer. I thought a flyer was a pre release thingy, like a promo to drum up business so to speak.
Sometimes it's all a bit hazy, the Export timeline that came from Gene O (I think) that was listed in the Zone suggested Exports started in '82, was all.
So I just wondered where the OP got their info...
Sorry if I appear to be being picky, thats certainly not my intention.

[Ingo Schwartz]

well I will just claim them as 80's Export :)

but I have one question, I am getting another bassdrum from a fellow drummer, they are 2003 EX´s with black hardware, If I take the black of the hardware are they chrome underneath the black ? :p

and also, i´m thinking about buying new hardware on all the drums in chrome if the 2003 is not chrome underneath the black, will newer hardware fit in the holes ? :)

thanks ;)

[3pearlkits]

well I will just claim them as 80's Export :)

but I have one question, I am getting another bassdrum from a fellow drummer, they are 2003 EX´s with black hardware, If I take the black of the hardware are they chrome underneath the black ? :p

and also, i´m thinking about buying new hardware on all the drums in chrome if the 2003 is not chrome underneath the black, will newer hardware fit in the holes ? :)

thanks ;)

I believe the black hardware is black chromed, not a colour put on, so you can't take off the black and have silver underneath.
You would need to find replacement lugs etc.

I can't recall off the top of my head the specs for hole distances sorry

[Ingo Schwartz]

allright thanks, I´ll just go to my pearl dealer and check out if they have anything :)

[pearlygates]

allright thanks, I´ll just go to my pearl dealer and check out if they have anything :)
You can also check online. Cannon makes Pearl style coffin lugs for your Export.

http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3154.HD

[pearlygates]

Hey Pearlygates,
No worries mate...
I was just looking at the timeline in history as well and yes I can see a 1980 export flyer. I thought a flyer was a pre release thingy, like a promo to drum up business so to speak.
Sometimes it's all a bit hazy, the Export timeline that came from Gene O (I think) that was listed in the Zone suggested Exports started in '82, was all.
So I just wondered where the OP got their info...
Sorry if I appear to be being picky, thats certainly not my intention.
No worries 3PK.

I just go by what I see in print.. you could be spot on with your observation regarding pre-release press.

[Ingo Schwartz]

You can also check online. Cannon makes Pearl style coffin lugs for your Export.

http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3154.HD

thank you my good sir :D

[pearlygates]

thank you my good sir :D
Much obliged! (tips hat):D

[pearlygates]

Hi there

I finally finished my drum room (garage) and started working on my drums, I have taken all hardware and wrap of all the drums exept 16FT and 22BD.

I feel quite bad about the condition of the drums, some of them are chipped and look bad. But I was really surprized to find out that the 15"FT is Fiberglass and had Chrome underneath the Black vinyl :eek:

but I´ll let the pictures talk.

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yes this is DUST and dirt!
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I did not know that the wrap had paper underneath the black 00**

but is it ok to use woodfiller to fill the gap in the drums were the joints meet ?

this is it for now maybe more in a few days :)

There may be an error with your pic posts.. Could you try to repost your pix bro?

[Ingo Schwartz]

There may be an error with your pic posts.. Could you try to repost your pix bro?

I see them :confused:

I will upload them again in a few minutes :)

[Ingo Schwartz]

here we go again :)

here is the 15" FT Fiberglass
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293031428_626536428_3208578_4187537_n.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293036428_626536428_3208579_1580354_n.jpg
interesting chrome underneath the black vinyl wrap
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186293046428_626536428_3208580_6044752_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186293051428_626536428_3208581_4919342_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186293056428_626536428_3208582_6815341_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186293621428_626536428_3208583_7637193_n.jpg
most of the drums have cracks in the wood and also a gap where the joints meet :(
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293626428_626536428_3208584_675811_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293631428_626536428_3208585_408750_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293646428_626536428_3208586_4844692_n.jpg
dust and crap seemed to dominate all the drums in the inside.
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186293651428_626536428_3208587_3991981_n.jpg
Don´t know if this was done at the pearl factory but there are obvious marks of rough sandpaper, does´nt really matter since they will all be sanded for smooth finish on the wood before wrap.
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186294476428_626536428_3208591_1826747_n.jpg
more dust and crap
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186294481428_626536428_3208592_4817722_n.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186294486428_626536428_3208593_1503888_n.jpg
Glue leftovers (removed)
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186294491428_626536428_3208594_2322639_n.jpg
Do not know or did know that the wrap was made mostly out of brown paper with a really thin layer of black plastic.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186294496428_626536428_3208595_42432_n.jpg

[Ingo Schwartz]

Hoops waiting to be cleaned and polished
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186295286428_626536428_3208597_7728331_n.jpg
The biggest gap where the joints meet is on the bassdrum 2mm wide!
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295291428_626536428_3208598_1955687_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295296428_626536428_3208599_7560995_n.jpg
Dust from the 16"FT compared to Pearl drumkey
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295311428_626536428_3208600_1595584_n.jpg
Crack inside the bassdrum !
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295321428_626536428_3208601_2025604_n.jpg

hope they work now :)

and I have asked this twice so I will ask again since I will be deleting the 2 error´d posts :)

can I use wood filler on the drums ?

[nova]

Hoops waiting to be cleaned and polished
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_186295286428_626536428_3208597_7728331_n.jpg
The biggest gap where the joints meet is on the bassdrum 2mm wide!
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295291428_626536428_3208598_1955687_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295296428_626536428_3208599_7560995_n.jpg
Dust from the 16"FT compared to Pearl drumkey
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295311428_626536428_3208600_1595584_n.jpg
Crack inside the bassdrum !
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs095.snc3/16254_186295321428_626536428_3208601_2025604_n.jpg

hope they work now :)

and I have asked this twice so I will ask again since I will be deleting the 2 error´d posts :)

can I use wood filler on the drums ?

I think you'll have to but I'll pm THW and 3pearlkits for you; expert advise!

[Ingo Schwartz]

I think you'll have to but I'll pm THW and 3pearlkits for you; expert advise!

thank you so much :)

but I was more wandering if wood filler would damage the sound of the drums :)

[nova]

thank you so much :)

but I was more wandering if wood filler would damage the sound of the drums :)

I just play drums and am mechanically challanged; (5 thumbs on each hand)!:p:D:cool: What color is the new wrap going to be? The Chrome from Jammin Sam is outstanding! Look at Pearly James MX refurb thread and check out the Chrome Wrap!!:p:D:cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

eek

I don´t know what color it is going to be, chrome og gold mirror´s would be awesome ! but the dollar vs. ISK is so extremely bad that just wrap without shipping cost is about 2months sallary :(

I was thinking either black or white wrap or paint, but not shure ATM :)

I´m trying to find someone who can do this in iceland but everyone just laughs and tells me to do something else with my life :(

[nova]

eek

I don´t know what color it is going to be, chrome og gold mirror´s would be awesome ! but the dollar vs. ISK is so extremely bad that just wrap without shipping cost is about 2months sallary :(

I was thinking either black or white wrap or paint, but not shure ATM :)

I´m trying to find someone who can do this in iceland but everyone just laughs and tells me to do something else with my life :( They don't understand! This guy from Norway redid his Exports in cabinet covering; Canary Yellow and they came out excellant!! Check this out from jamminsam.com!:p:D:cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

oh my :o

I MUST HAVE THIS !

ok now you know ! it will be chrome !!!!!! :D

[Ingo Schwartz]

actually I just found out in a conversation via MSN with my friend that there is a company in iceland that has material similar to wrap! it is actually vinyl film with glue but his friend just took the paper from underneath the vinyl film to glue then together but not glueing all the drum with the vinyl, so im going to check out if they have chrome :)

does this make any sence to you ? :p

[nova]

actually I just found out in a conversation via MSN with my friend that there is a company in iceland that has material similar to wrap! it is actually vinyl film with glue but his friend just took the paper from underneath the vinyl film to glue then together but not glueing all the drum with the vinyl, so im going to check out if they have chrome :)

does this make any sence to you ? :p

Yes; but I think Pearl just puts glue at the corners to avoid bubbles.

[nova]

Check out Hotrod Ex by TWH!

[Ingo Schwartz]

Yes; but I think Pearl just puts glue at the corners to avoid bubbles.

actually there was glue on each end of the wrap and a little nail on each corner

[nova]

actually there was glue on each end of the wrap and a little nail on each corner

Pearl did not do that. You can bank on that; a nail in a drum? I had a slip shod company put a wrap on a hybrid drumkit back in the 80's; and they lined one of the bassdrums with nails at the wrap seam. Made the drum loose all of its value!

[3pearlkits]

Hey Pearl export 80!

Nova PM'ed me to offer you some advice about refinishing (I don't know why though lol)

So it sounds like your going to wrap your kit.
All good. Your preparation for wrapping is less than that required for staining/clear coat.

I assume you have some basic woodworking skills, but it's not rocket science if you're patient and take your time.

While you are working, the most critical thing to preserve is the all important bearing edge.
That's irrelevant if you think the bearing edges are shot and you are going to get them recut.

You asked can you use woodfiller...
Of course you can. I believe it improves tone as the shells are even thickness once finished.
You can use an epoxy based woodfiller to fill that 2mm gap in the BD and any other dents/scratch marks on the outer part of the shells.
Epoxy based woodfillers are better for repairs as they adhere better than water based ones. And perhaps you can use the same filler on the fibreglass shell too.
And you can use a water based woodfiller to fix internal shell scratches and scrapes and fill the grain.

There is a tendency to over smooth/sand some say. They say if you sand too fine, then you lose warmth from shells and have a brighter more projecting drums, possibly with overtones.
I think you can throw all that out the window because of the fibreglass shell, which is already brighter etc than the wood shells.

So, use a 2" wide scraper to apply the epoxy to the gaps and ply chips, overfilling to leave the woodfiller "proud". Let it dry for a good while, knock off the majority of the proud bit with say 100 grit sandpaper and smooth down in increments, with 150, 200, finishing with 240 grit. Do larger holes in 2 stages. Just be extra careful sanding near your bearing edges

For the inner side, mix a fair chunk of water based filler with about 10% by volume water, and mix together to form a paste like mud in consistency. Working quickly, apply in a circular motion to the entire inner shell with a soft open weave cotton rag. Let dry. Sand with 150 grit. Repeat if needs be, but this is not often the case with post '70's shells.

The enemy of good is better sometimes, just get the dings and cracks filled in...

This should get you to wrapping stage!

Do some research, you have already worked out that there are 2 schools of thought...
tape on each end and full adhesive.
Your drums, you decide!

I highly recommend the following:
Get felt. Pull each spring out of the lug and wrap in felt and reassemble. This stops spring noise.
Get 1/8" rubber strip and cut gaskets for your lugs. This looks more modern and I believe it isolates the lug from the shell.
Get air suspension feet for your FT if it's on legs.
Get Optimounts and GK-90 masking plates. They really make a difference to resonance.

Yell out if I can help more.

You can see my refurbs in the 2 kits in my sig...

psst sorry bout the essay

Ohhh and did I say be careful of your bearing edges???????
If I didn't I meant too ;)

[pearlygates]

Pearl did not do that. You can bank on that; a nail in a drum? I had a slip shod company put a wrap on a hybrid drumkit back in the 80's; and they lined one of the bassdrums with nails at the wrap seam. Made the drum loose all of its value!

I think it is possible that Pearl could have used small nail tacks, but probably not in this instance.. the badges for my MX were glued and then nailed in all 4 corners.. The wrap??? :confused: Nevermind..FAIL

[Ingo Schwartz]

thank you so much 3pearlkits I am going to have to read over this 55 times to get it right LOL

also...

am I supposed to put water based filler on the intire inside and sand it down ? :o

I am a total noob as it comes to filling wood and what to get, but I think the guys at the wood selling place should be able to tell me what is waterbased and what is epoxy :)

thank you so much !

[3pearlkits]

thank you so much 3pearlkits I am going to have to read over this 55 times to get it right LOL

also...

am I supposed to put water based filler on the intire inside and sand it down ? :o

I am a total noob as it comes to filling wood and what to get, but I think the guys at the wood selling place should be able to tell me what is waterbased and what is epoxy :)

thank you so much !

Your welcome!

Yes use the water based filler over the entire inner surface and sand it down.

And yes wherever you buy your products should be able to help you identify which is which.

Have fun

[Ingo Schwartz]

Your welcome!

Yes use the water based filler over the entire inner surface and sand it down.

And yes wherever you buy your products should be able to help you identify which is which.

Have fun

I will thank you, good to have something to do when quitting to smoke :o

[Ingo Schwartz]

Hi

since last time I posted I have gone everywhere to try and find rubber to make the gaskets for the lugs. I cant find them anywhere so i will be making them out of silicone or similar material (dont know what its called in english but it is the samt rubber material automechanics use to hold windshields on cars)

I can make a plate thin enough so I can cut out the gaskets from zed plate.

It takes alot of time but I figure its going to be worth it.

when dry it is the axact same as rubber strips.

update soon :)

[TWH]

Actually, you can pick up rubber gasket meterial at www.drumfoundry.com. It comes in 1/32" or 1/16". Look under the tom lug section.

[Ingo Schwartz]

Actually, you can pick up rubber gasket meterial at www.drumfoundry.com. It comes in 1/32" or 1/16". Look under the tom lug section.

yeah I know, but i´m in iceland and the taxes and additional fees are so high that it does'nt make sence spending that much cash on rubber :(

I am going to try it out later today after I finish work :)
let you know how it turns out :)

[nova]

Evans Pearl and Shure!!:D(mic's)00**:D:cool: Then Sabians!!!:D:p:cool:

[Ingo Schwartz]

Evans Pearl and Shure!!:D(mic's)00**:D:cool: Then Sabians!!!:D:p:cool:

so you´re talking about the signature ?

I´ve been with Paiste for 9 years so it´s time to change abit, but I´m not shure at all about that, Sabian do sound good on Portnoy´s kit but I have not tryed them out yet, Meinl are also good, I´ve try´d some of those and really liked them. I will be trying them all out very soon :)

but yeah it Is Evans and Pearl ATM

Shure mic´s are really good at least the ones I have tryed out and used on stage, so shure is an option :D

but on topic

I was stuck in work so late and I am too lazy to go out to the garage tonight to figure out how the silicone would work for the gaskets :) maybe tomorrow :)

[Ingo Schwartz]

Well I went into the garage and starting working on some stuff for the kit.

I made "molds" for the gaskets out of some thick paper, I will use this as a guideline for the silicone mat :)

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_190640636428_626536428_3243622_2949851_n.jpg

and for you in the country´s where there is still warm & sunny I have this pic for you!
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs115.snc3/16254_190640631428_626536428_3243621_3877410_n.jpg

[nova]

so you´re talking about the signature ?

I´ve been with Paiste for 9 years so it´s time to change abit, but I´m not shure at all about that, Sabian do sound good on Portnoy´s kit but I have not tryed them out yet, Meinl are also good, I´ve try´d some of those and really liked them. I will be trying them all out very soon :)

but yeah it Is Evans and Pearl ATM

Shure mic´s are really good at least the ones I have tryed out and used on stage, so shure is an option :D

but on topic

I was stuck in work so late and I am too lazy to go out to the garage tonight to figure out how the silicone would work for the gaskets :) maybe tomorrow :)

I was just playing!! Shure is a mic company; the best; and you meant to write; "I sure like Shure microphones!!":D:p:cool: Jokin with ya buddy! Looks cold there in Iceland!!! It's getting ready to snow here today; but it never sticks for too long. It's cold enough!!!:)

[Ingo Schwartz]

I was just playing!! Shure is a mic company; the best; and you meant to write; "I sure like Shure microphones!!":D:p:cool: Jokin with ya buddy! Looks cold there in Iceland!!! It's getting ready to snow here today; but it never sticks for too long. It's cold enough!!!:)

the cold sucks ! specially cuz the heating in my garage is not good enough, we are working on it but it comes to slowly :(

but is it extremly stupid to buy a Vision VMX 8" tom and wrap it to match the kit ? :o

I would really LOVE to have the same setup as Eric singer but I cant afford a whole new kit in his specs :(

[3pearlkits]

Here in Australia I went to a store that sells rubber in sheets and rolls and whatever, as well as foam to repair stools and seats and a host of other associated items.
Perhaps you have a similar store (but didn't know quite where to look)...

Sorry I am so late with this response.

[Ingo Schwartz]

on hold for an unknown ammount of time !!!

[Ingo Schwartz]

back in buisness :D

I will be shipping the drums to a drum guru next week or first week of January to be fixed.

since I don't have the knowledge to fix them myself he is going to fix them for me, both inside/outside & cut new bearing edge :)

can't wait :D

but I am torn between painting them or wrapping them, if I paint them they will have White finish, maybe with some sparkle but not shure.

If wrapped they will be eyther Yellow or Brown 00**

yellow and brown are the only 2 colors that are available :mad:

so paint or wrap ?

or maybe order from jamminsam and spending alittle more $$$ ???

:o

[pearlygates]

back in buisness :D

I will be shipping the drums to a drum guru next week or first week of January to be fixed.

since I don't have the knowledge to fix them myself he is going to fix them for me, both inside/outside & cut new bearing edge :)

can't wait :D

but I am torn between painting them or wrapping them, if I paint them they will have White finish, maybe with some sparkle but not shure.

If wrapped they will be eyther Yellow or Brown 00**

yellow and brown are the only 2 colors that are available :mad:

so paint or wrap ?

or maybe order from jamminsam and spending alittle more $$$ ???

:o
I would go with a wrap finish on that kit.
Reason being is that those shells are open grain mahogany (Asian grown).
...and being an open grain timber..painting your shells may require extensive prep/ fill work.

[Ingo Schwartz]

I would go with a wrap finish on that kit.
Reason being is that those shells are open grain mahogany (Asian grown).
...and being an open grain timber..painting your shells may require extensive prep/ fill work.

hmm...

well when you put it that way :p

I´m going to wait a bit and see if the company that have the wrap kind material will get any more colors :)

it's going to be a month minimum until I get my drums back from repair so maybe they'll have new color then :D