Blue Devils and Evans Drumheads Form New Partnership

[PureRockFury]

The Blue Devils is pleased to announce an extremely exciting partnership with D'Addario & Company, Inc. - the maker of Evans Drum Heads

The relationship between the Blue Devils and Evans is the result of a shared philosophy…the dedication to innovative excellence. Within the highly competitive activity of Drum Corps, the Blue Devils continuously set themselves apart by exploring every possible avenue for improvement…especially when it comes to their drum sounds. The continued growth of the Evans product line, including the major strides made in just the last few years, represents the next step in the evolution of the Blue Devils sound and gives them the tools to execute their musical ideas. “The Blue Devil family is always looking for inventive ways to create the new sounds of tomorrow”, says the Blue Devils’ Director of Percussion, Scott Johnson. “We are all excited to work alongside the Evans/D'Addario team, as we move forward into next generation of marching percussion.

The partnership also represents an opportunity to explore new product ideas. The two organizations will pool their collective experience and resources with the goal of designing a line of percussion accessories, under the System Blue™ name, that will provide new sonic, performance, and educational options that will be sure to break new ground in the world of drum corps.

"We are thrilled to embark on this partnership and look forward to an exciting and productive relationship," says Jim Bailey, Evans Educator Relations Manager. "The Blue Devils organization and staff bring the talent and experience essential to Evans’ process of design innovation. It’ll be like pouring gasoline on the fire.”

“I, for one, am extremely excited about this bold step that propels the Blue Devils and Evans into the future of the percussion soundscapes,” exclaims percussion instructor and Evans artist, Ben Maughmer. “The Evans products have proven to be of the highest quality, and the company has shown the willingness to push the envelope when it comes to innovative solutions to today’s' percussive needs. Smart, experienced, responsive people along with a vast array of quality product possibilities, have made this union inevitable, the Blue Devils and Evans.

About The Blue Devils
The Blue Devils, founded in 1957, have won the DCI World Championship more times than any other drum corps in history. Drum Corps International title have been won in 1976, '77, '79, '80, '82, '86, '94, '96, '97, '99. '03 and 2007. Adding to their impressive record setting DCI world championships, The Blue Devils won the prestigious 2005 World Music Contest in Kerkrade, Holland.

Today the Blue Devils organization encompasses a wide spectrum of programs. The Blue Devils family includes the A, B, & C Drum & Bugle Corps, two Winter Guard Programs, a world-class Twirling Program and a Wind Symphony with over 60 participants. In addition The Blue Devils have a very successful professional entertainment company – BDEntertainment and they also service over 15,000 young people who participate in the Western Band Association. Over 500 young people, ages seven to twenty-one are currently members of the Blue Devils performing units. Over 10,000 young people, in 2,500 families, have been served by the Blue Devils in its 52-year history.

About D'Addario & Company, Inc.
D'Addario & Company, Inc. designs, manufacturers, and markets complete lines of strings for fretted and bowed musical instruments, drumheads, drum practice pads, and guitar and woodwind accessories under the proprietary brand names D'Addario, Evans Drumheads, Planet Waves, Rico, HQ Percussion and PureSound Percussion. The company also runs the popular Gbase.com, online gear source, as well as D'Addario's musician hub, The Stage (www.tothestage.com). D'Addario products are marketed in approximately 120 countries.

For more information on Evans, please visit www.evansdrumheads.com

[Jazzycat1]

NOT a fan of Evans heads myself but I have never touched their marching products. I did buy a set of Puresound snare wires for my Rogers Dynasonic - same parent company - very good quality. I hope their snares sound more like snares this year instead of sounding like floor tiles.

[PureRockFury]

NOT a fan of Evans heads myself but I have never touched their marching products. I did buy a set of Puresound snare wires for my Rogers Dynasonic - same parent company - very good quality. I hope their snares sound more like snares this year instead of sounding like floor tiles.

I haven't liked Evans marching products since they first started around 1999. Awful awful sounding stuff.

That ultra dry sound BD has had since the Dynasty switch is all in the tuning...err...choking I mean. It has nothing to do with Remo drum heads.

[Jetpoweredface]

I really liked Coats' bass sound last year. The rest of the line sounded good too, but the basses really stood out to me. Maybe BD will cut the fail next year?

[Mr. Intensity]

I think this will turn out pretty good actually. I use on of the Evans Grey Hybrids on my Dynasty and I love it. The new Hybrids are awesome- miles better than the old stuff Evans put out.

I loved the sound of the Bluecoats line last year, and I know there are people who can tune Dynasty's to sound amazing (thank you Rennick) so I think BD might have a shot to gain that older-less tabletop sound they had before the switch to Dynasty.

[Redeye]

I like evan's bass and LOVE thei HYBRID snare head. The top one. I hate the rest of their marching stuff. I don't have enough experience with their orchestral and drumset products to say anything.

[Ehrin]

After playing Remo for 20 years I just switched to Evans on my kit. I had a couple of reasons for doing so. 1. Quality control. I got tired of getting a box for a 14" coated ambasador with a 12" clear pinstripe inside. I also just got a set of fyberskins in and 2 of them were so unbalanced I couldn't tune them properly. 2. Sound. Evans heads have come a long way since I last tried them. I put an EMAD on my kick and I was amazed. For playing rock and pop you can't go wrong with that head. I'm going to have to find a good jazz head but I'm really excited about trying the J1 heads that Erskine helped create.
As for their marching stuff, I've never seen such a wide variety of products that sound good. I really love they hybrid heads. The stacatto disc is also really cool. I saw Jeff Queen using one and decided to try it. It really alows you to get that nice dry tone without making your snare sound like a table top. I must say, I'm officially hooked on Evans. The only problem I still have is Evans heads don't seem to last quite as long as Remo heads. I'm not sure about our marching heads cuz we haven't had them long enough but my kit heads haven't quite lasted so long. All in all, I think the switch is good. Evans is really a company that is about listening to what people want and giving it to them.

[Fastlane]

yeah it weird how some heads make the drums sound naff. the remo max black gets a pretty sickkk sound out of most drums.

[ChiaPet]

I think a lot of people are on bandwagons to really know and judge a product before they try using it.

Just like when Blue Devils switched to Dynasty in 2000.

"OMG. DYNASTY IS NOW THE SHIZZLE!"

Blue Devils with Pro-mark.

"I love the DC50s!"

Now Blue Devils and Evans.

"Hybrids all the waaaaay!"

Test each product to YOUR OWN satisfaction. Now because some Top 12 drum corps is using them.

[Jeffrey.]

I love the grey hybrids! so soft feeling.

[ChiaPet]

I love the grey hybrids! so soft feeling.

Try the Whites.

Their so bright in terms of tone.

[Mr. Intensity]

Try the Whites.

Their so bright in terms of tone.

Agreed. I like both, but as far as sound goes, I like the White's more.

[Jeffrey.]

Agreed. I like both, but as far as sound goes, I like the White's more.

cool. I'll suggest the white heads.
would you say they cut better?

[Mr. Intensity]

cool. I'll suggest the white heads.
would you say they cut better?
Yeah, they cut more than the Grey's do, I think it's because the Grey's just have a clear film on top and the White's have the same film they use on the MX series. I've found rim shots cut waaay more than they did on the Grey's.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah, they cut more than the Grey's do, I think it's because the Grey's just have a clear film on top and the White's have the same film they use on the MX series. I've found rim shots cut waaay more than they did on the Grey's.

The whites cut way more than the greys.

The whites actually sound bright and crispy compared to deep and warm tone from the greys.

The downfall of the greys is that they actually heat up like crazy in the sun. Which will detune the head a lot faster.

[Mr. Intensity]

The whites cut way more than the greys.

The whites actually sound bright and crispy compared to deep and warm tone from the greys.

The downfall of the greys is that they actually heat up like crazy in the sun. Which will detune the head a lot faster.

Agreed, or in my case, they'll explode before you can even get them up to pitch. If they could combine the warm tone of the grey's with the cut of the white's, I'd be sold.

[ChiaPet]

It probably has to do with the dye color of the drum head.

I'm sure it can be done, but they probably haven't figured out a neutral color to combine it.

We don't want blue, yellow, pink, red drumheads now, do we? :p

[Mr. Intensity]

It probably has to do with the dye color of the drum head.

I'm sure it can be done, but they probably haven't figured out a neutral color to combine it.

We don't want blue, yellow, pink, red drumheads now, do we? :p

Possibly, but if you look at a Grey Hybrid or even a Black Max, the top of the head is just a clear film over the kevlar. So...I'm thinking kinda like you, the top layer hasn't been developed in a way that it can combine both elements of the Grey and White hybrids.

As far as the colors.....Remo does green, just look at Carolina Crown's bassheads, haha

[ChiaPet]

Possibly, but if you look at a Grey Hybrid or even a Black Max, the top of the head is just a clear film over the kevlar. So...I'm thinking kinda like you, the top layer hasn't been developed in a way that it can combine both elements of the Grey and White hybrids.

As far as the colors.....Remo does green, just look at Carolina Crown's bassheads, haha

But that's a top 12 drum corps.

We're individuals.

It's like how Blue Devils gets free drums every year, fast shipping.

It takes us like what? 4-6 weeks? :p

[Mr. Intensity]

But that's a top 12 drum corps.

We're individuals.

It's like how Blue Devils gets free drums every year, fast shipping.

It takes us like what? 4-6 weeks? :p

Alright, alright, you got me there, haha. But, I think you can actually special order from Remo in different colors, but again, like you said, we're mere individuals compared to the top 12 corps....it would take us forever....and a day.

[ChiaPet]

Alright, alright, you got me there, haha. But, I think you can actually special order from Remo in different colors, but again, like you said, we're mere individuals compared to the top 12 corps....it would take us forever....and a day.

Anyways, I just got my heads today, they look so smooth, but I don't have a drum to test it on. I'm still waiting for my Glassmen snare to come in. I used to have a Pearl Carbonply but I sold it. Never did like Pearl's.

I'm thinking about getting a Offworld pad, curious...Do you mind taking some in-depth pictures of it?

Videos don't seem to do much justice.

[Mr. Intensity]

Anyways, I just got my heads today, they look so smooth, but I don't have a drum to test it on. I'm still waiting for my Glassmen snare to come in. I used to have a Pearl Carbonply but I sold it. Never did like Pearl's.

I'm thinking about getting a Offworld pad, curious...Do you mind taking some in-depth pictures of it?

Videos don't seem to do much justice.

Nice, I actually have to order a new bottom head, my dog knocked my drum over yesterday and the head blew out... Oh well, it's time for a new one anyways.

Yeah, I'll take a bunch of pics for you, do you have an email address I can send them to?

Do you want some video of it as well, or just the pictures?

[ChiaPet]

Nice, I actually have to order a new bottom head, my dog knocked my drum over yesterday and the head blew out... Oh well, it's time for a new one anyways.

Yeah, I'll take a bunch of pics for you, do you have an email address I can send them to?

Do you want some video of it as well, or just the pictures?

Oh yeah, both if possible. Definately.

My email is akpgolden@sbcglobal.net

Where do you usually buy your stuff at? I love Columbus percussion.

[Mr. Intensity]

Oh yeah, both if possible. Definately.

My email is akpgolden@sbcglobal.net

Where do you usually buy your stuff at? I love Columbus percussion.

I usually go through Steve Weiss Music if I just want a good price, or I go through Lone Star Percussion if I need it quick. Steve is up in...Pennsylvania I think, and Lone Star is up in Dallas, TX. I usually split the orders between the two.

And, I'll send you that stuff in just a minute actually, I'll make the video and take the pics for you.

[ChiaPet]

I usually go through Steve Weiss Music if I just want a good price, or I go through Lone Star Percussion if I need it quick. Steve is up in...Pennsylvania I think, and Lone Star is up in Dallas, TX. I usually split the orders between the two.

And, I'll send you that stuff in just a minute actually, I'll make the video and take the pics for you.

Hows lone-star percussion?

Speedy? Reliable?

I hate ordering online because most stores are on the east coast while I'm on the west coast. So Shipping is such a long long wait. Makes me cry at night. :p

[Mr. Intensity]

Hows lone-star percussion?

Speedy? Reliable?

I hate ordering online because most stores are on the east coast while I'm on the west coast. So Shipping is such a long long wait. Makes me cry at night. :p

Lone Star is really fast, they usually have my order to my door within 2 days. They tend to have slightly higher prices, but they are quite fast. They have a little chart in their price list that gives the average time for deliveries, to Cali it says about 4 business days. I'm not sure what you're used to, but I'd say that's fairly quick.

[ChiaPet]

I'm thinking about ordering the Invader there, but it says it's back ordered. And the Offworld site kinda turns me off because everything is so cluttered.

[Mr. Intensity]

I'm thinking about ordering the Invader there, but it says it's back ordered. And the Offworld site kinda turns me off because everything is so cluttered.

Yeah, the Offworld site is a bit confusing. But, If you can figure it out, order through them, Lone Star is going to be slammed because everyone and their brother wants one here in TX. Almost all of the guys from my old high school wants one because they played mine and loved it.

Oh, video and pics are one their way soon.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah, the Offworld site is a bit confusing. But, If you can figure it out, order through them, Lone Star is going to be slammed because everyone and their brother wants one here in TX. Almost all of the guys from my old high school wants one because they played mine and loved it.

Oh, video and pics are one their way soon.

I wonder when a big name company will buy out Offworld and mass produce the pad.

[Mr. Intensity]

I wonder when a big name company will buy out Offworld and mass produce the pad.

Who knows...when and if they do, they'd better not ruin it.

[ChiaPet]

Who knows...when and if they do, they'd better not ruin it.

They probably will.

Remember the 3 versions of the Heavy hitters?

The OG from Bill Bachman. The pads had no logo, just a sticker. Bought out by Xymox/VF.

Xymox version of the slimpad. Imprinted Logo.

VF version of the slimpad, half cut at the top. Different rubber, heavier wooden base.

[Mr. Intensity]

They probably will.

Remember the 3 versions of the Heavy hitters?

The OG from Bill Bachman. The pads had no logo, just a sticker. Bought out by Xymox/VF.

Xymox version of the slimpad. Imprinted Logo.

VF version of the slimpad, half cut at the top. Different rubber, heavier wooden base.

Ahh, yeah, yeah, I remember all that, haha. Of course...one version is just not enough at all.

But, I guess whatever works you know?

[ChiaPet]

Ahh, yeah, yeah, I remember all that, haha. Of course...one version is just not enough at all.

But, I guess whatever works you know?


Have you seen the New Xymox's pad?

Their so sexy!

[Mr. Intensity]

Have you seen the New Xymox's pad?

Their so sexy!

Yes I have, they look schweeet! I want one of the Tim Jackson tenor pads...and I don't even play tenors, I just want to hang it up on my wall...Haha

[ChiaPet]

They have video reviews of it.

http://www.snarescience.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2909

Amzzzzzing.

[Mr. Intensity]

They have video reviews of it.

http://www.snarescience.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2909

Amzzzzzing.

Nice find, I did not notice that when I was there earlier, haha.

Oh, the email was sent, I'm waiting for the video to load up on YouTube for you, but the email says it all.

[ChiaPet]

Nice find, I did not notice that when I was there earlier, haha.

Oh, the email was sent, I'm waiting for the video to load up on YouTube for you, but the email says it all.

Im tempted to buy so many pads!

Gosh!

[Mr. Intensity]

Im tempted to buy so many pads!

Gosh!

Haha, aren't we all, aren't we all. I think it's a drummer thing, we just want more pads than we know what to do with.

[ChiaPet]

Haha, aren't we all, aren't we all. I think it's a drummer thing, we just want more pads than we know what to do with.

Man, I have so many pads but through the years, I got bored of them and just began to sell each pad one by one.

I used to have OG everything.

Good times.

[Mr. Intensity]

Man, I have so many pads but through the years, I got bored of them and just began to sell each pad one by one.

I used to have OG everything.

Good times.

Haha, nice. I'm adding you as a friend on YouTube, on my "I'm bored Account".

Look for DrmStk666 about...now...

[ChiaPet]

Alright.

Man, Ebay has a really sweet deal on a custom Dynasty double snare.

[Mr. Intensity]

Alright.

Man, Ebay has a really sweet deal on a custom Dynasty double snare.

Nice, you got a link for it?

Check your pm's, I sent you the link to the video.

[ChiaPet]

Nice, you got a link for it?

Check your pm's, I sent you the link to the video.

Why yes, I do.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dynasty-14-Marching-Double-Snare-Drum-Custom-Finish_W0QQitemZ260422478017QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca263a8c1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

I must say, that is REALLY cheap for a drum of that stature.

[Mr. Intensity]

Why yes, I do.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dynasty-14-Marching-Double-Snare-Drum-Custom-Finish_W0QQitemZ260422478017QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca263a8c1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

I must say, that is REALLY cheap for a drum of that stature.

Wow, can you say Blue Devils 2002?

That looks identical to their drums that year, minus the XL harness attachment.

That's a fantsatic deal for a one of a kind drum. I want it.

[ChiaPet]

Wow, can you say Blue Devils 2002?

That looks identical to their drums that year, minus the XL harness attachment.

That's a fantsatic deal for a one of a kind drum. I want it.

Yeah, I know!

You should definitely buy it. If you add up all the total for a brand new snare like that, it adds around 800 dollars.

I mean, it has Remo heads but what the hey. Lol.

Definitively buy it man!

[Mr. Intensity]

Yeah, I know!

You should definitely buy it. If you add up all the total for a brand new snare like that, it adds around 800 dollars.

I mean, it has Remo heads but what the hey. Lol.

Definitively buy it man!

If I had the money right now I would, but I don't, I gotta save my money for school. College is expensive, haha. It is really nice though, if I had the dime, I'd drop it on that right now.

[ChiaPet]

If I had the money right now I would, but I don't, I gotta save my money for school. College is expensive, haha. It is really nice though, if I had the dime, I'd drop it on that right now.

Haha. You could always sell your old Dynasty.

:P

Sometimes, Ebay has amazing deals.

I once saw a Cadets 2002 drum, 2001 BD Drum, 2006 Phantom Regiment.

[Mr. Intensity]

Haha. You could always sell your old Dynasty.

:P

Sometimes, Ebay has amazing deals.

I once saw a Cadets 2002 drum, 2001 BD Drum, 2006 Phantom Regiment.

I could always do that...but she's been good to me, I couldn't let her go, there's some sentemental value there, haha.

When I was at PASIC lat year they had two SCV drums from 2007 and two Phantom drums from 2007. I was going to buy one of the PR drums, but I found out they, as well as the SCV drums, had been claimed earlier that day. I was bummed out.

But, I do have two other marching snares...from 1974!!

[ChiaPet]

I could always do that...but she's been good to me, I couldn't let her go, there's some sentemental value there, haha.

When I was at PASIC lat year they had two SCV drums from 2007 and two Phantom drums from 2007. I was going to buy one of the PR drums, but I found out they, as well as the SCV drums, had been claimed earlier that day. I was bummed out.

But, I do have two other marching snares...from 1974!!

How much were they?

Usually, corps used gear is an amazing deal!

[Mr. Intensity]

How much were they?

Usually, corps used gear is an amazing deal!

If I remember correctly, the Phantom drums were around $300 a piece, and the SCV drums were about $250-275. The SCV drums weren't in very good condition, almost every piece of chrome needed to be replaced. The PR drums however were almost in flawless condition. Save for a few nicks on the finish, and a little bit of damage to the chrome, they were very well maintained.

[ChiaPet]

If I remember correctly, the Phantom drums were around $300 a piece, and the SCV drums were about $250-275. The SCV drums weren't in very good condition, almost every piece of chrome needed to be replaced. The PR drums however were almost in flawless condition. Save for a few nicks on the finish, and a little bit of damage to the chrome, they were very well maintained.

Did they include Carrier, Etc?

If mind serves me correctly, the chrome Pearl used in early 2007 weren't exactly solid. They used many methods to get it right.

[Mr. Intensity]

Did they include Carrier, Etc?

If mind serves me correctly, the chrome Pearl used in early 2007 weren't exactly solid. They used many methods to get it right.

I'm not sure if they included the carrier, I think if you wanted one, for like, $25-30 more you could get a cover, carrier, and a stand for them. I saw 4 of each of those just behind the table they were on, so I'm assuming you could get them all in one go.

[ChiaPet]

Ah.

Do you have a carrier for your drum?

Lemme guess, V-bar?

[Mr. Intensity]

Ah.

Do you have a carrier for your drum?

Lemme guess, V-bar?

I actually don't, not yet anyways. I never really needed one before, since at most camps we used stands- for DCI tryouts I mean. I'd like to get a V-Bar though, so I can practice carrying again. I'm thinking I'll probably get one within the next two months, after I get some more money together.

[ChiaPet]

I actually don't, not yet anyways. I never really needed one before, since at most camps we used stands- for DCI tryouts I mean. I'd like to get a V-Bar though, so I can practice carrying again. I'm thinking I'll probably get one within the next two months, after I get some more money together.


I used to only use a stand, until I went to a blue devils try out and they made me wear the drum.

I was like "Oh..Sweet Besus!"

[Mr. Intensity]

I used to only use a stand, until I went to a blue devils try out and they made me wear the drum.

I was like "Oh..Sweet Besus!"

Hahaha, yeah, they actually made us use stands at Cavaliers and Bluecoats, they wouldn't let anyone carry at all.

But like I said, I want to get a carrier so that in the event that I do have to carry, I can use my own drum instead of having to borrow one of my old high schools Yamahas and carriers. It makes things much easier when you can use your own equipment.

[ChiaPet]

Out of all the things, I must say I love Dynasty's stands. They are a gift from god.

So well built, like a tank.

I remember we used to use these concert stands that we fitted for our school drums.

Every time we drummed, it would rattle like crazy.

[Mr. Intensity]

Out of all the things, I must say I love Dynasty's stands. They are a gift from god.

So well built, like a tank.

I remember we used to use these concert stands that we fitted for our school drums.

Every time we drummed, it would rattle like crazy.

I want one of those Dynasty stands for my snare. I was using a nice Pearl stand, but I ended up switching that out for old Sonor stand on my drumset. Since I have an all Pearl drumset with all Pearl hardware, I figured the snare stand just needed to go there.

I feel you on the old beat up concert stands, my old school had 4 that actually worked, we had to have makeshift ones for the other two, since we had 6 snares my senior year. I loved being Captain though, I got dibs on whatever stand I wanted, made things much easier.

[ChiaPet]

Ahaha.

What kind of snares did you guys use?

[Mr. Intensity]

Ahaha.

What kind of snares did you guys use?

We used the Yamaha MTS snares, 14x12". Silver with Silver hardware. Tenors were 6, 10, 12, 13, 14 and basses were 18, 20, 22, 24, 28. We were running Remo White Max's over Collarless Ambassadors on the snare, Remo Emporer Suede Crimplocks on the tenors, and Evans MX1's on the basses.

Here's a picture of our line at the Lonestar Classic Drumline Competition- we won this year, and we won 4 out of 5 caption awards.
Snares-
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v153/5/31/748632626/n748632626_379209_6185.jpg
Tenors-
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v153/5/31/748632626/n748632626_379212_7404.jpg
Early season shot of the basses-
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v134/5/31/748632626/n748632626_262049_5153.jpg
Awesome Cymbal Chicks-
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v134/5/31/748632626/n748632626_262048_3100.jpg

Here's a video of that same show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sutbfbGStcg

If you're wondering who I am, I'm the snare with the silver chord around my left shoulder.

[ChiaPet]

Mmm. Tenor girl...

[Mr. Intensity]

Mmm. Tenor girl...

Haha, there were two of them the year after I graduated, they went to 7 snares, 4 tenors, and 5 basses.

[ChiaPet]

Haha, there were two of them the year after I graduated, they went to 7 snares, 4 tenors, and 5 basses.

You have a pretty big line for high school.

[Mr. Intensity]

You have a pretty big line for high school.

Yeah, we used to have it pretty small, 4 snares, 2 tenors, 5 basses, but then we started getting more talent and it got bigger. It works though, two time defending champions of the Lonestar Classic Drumline Competition, defending champion of the TCGC State Indoor Drumline Competition in the Scholastic Open division. Then as far as band goes, we went to a competition every year called the Westake Marching Festival; there we've won the high drums trophy 7 out the last 9 years.

It helps when you come from a drumline program that is very good with an instructor that challenges your playing ability.

What about your drumline, what's it like?

[ChiaPet]

Well, my high school line used to be REALLY good. Back when it was me and a couple drummers who actually took things seriously and knew how to tune, knew the drumming products, knew the rudiments and hybrids, etc but then as we all graduated, the line pretty much went down the hill. We never had a Percussion Instructer or a caption head so we would have to do all the practicing and rehearsing ourselves. It worked out really well too, we had the cleanest sounded line back when I attended. But now, it's just terrible because all the good people are gone and all the new people are the type who watched the movie "Drumline" way to many times and think their the **** because they can play sixteens notes with accents. Terrible. They pretty much abuse equipment now-a-days.

[Mr. Intensity]

Well, my high school line used to be REALLY good. Back when it was me and a couple drummers who actually took things seriously and knew how to tune, knew the drumming products, knew the rudiments and hybrids, etc but then as we all graduated, the line pretty much went down the hill. We never had a Percussion Instructer or a caption head so we would have to do all the practicing and rehearsing ourselves. It worked out really well too, we had the cleanest sounded line back when I attended. But now, it's just terrible because all the good people are gone and all the new people are the type who watched the movie "Drumline" way to many times and think their the **** because they can play sixteens notes with accents. Terrible. They pretty much abuse equipment now-a-days.

Ouch, that sucks man. You should try to get in touch with your old band director and see if he'll let you teach the line or something. Maybe since you were there when it was good they'll let you come back and work with them, maybe get them back to that same prestige as before.

[ChiaPet]

I hope so.

But it's hard to work with ignorant kids.

[Mr. Intensity]

I hope so.

But it's hard to work with ignorant kids.

This is true, very true.

[ChiaPet]

This is true, very true.

So I'm down to buying either the ScoJo Metropad or the Invader.

Two totally different pads and prices but have you played on the ScoJo one before?

[Mr. Intensity]

So I'm down to buying either the ScoJo Metropad or the Invader.

Two totally different pads and prices but have you played on the ScoJo one before?

I haven't played the ScoJo one before, I've heard it's really nice, but I've never played it. I think the biggest selling point for me was the rim on the Invader; I like being able to play the rim for shots and for anything else.

I have a feeling that regardless of which one you get, you'll be happy. But, you could always buy both and be doubly happy!

[ChiaPet]

I haven't played the ScoJo one before, I've heard it's really nice, but I've never played it. I think the biggest selling point for me was the rim on the Invader; I like being able to play the rim for shots and for anything else.

I have a feeling that regardless of which one you get, you'll be happy. But, you could always buy both and be doubly happy!

Is the Invader still in the "back-ordered" scene?

[Mr. Intensity]

Is the Invader still in the "back-ordered" scene?

I have no idea. You could try emailing the guys at Offworld Directly. I think they were backordered because Lonestar started selling them, they used to only be sold from OP themselves.

[ChiaPet]

I have no idea. You could try emailing the guys at Offworld Directly. I think they were backordered because Lonestar started selling them, they used to only be sold from OP themselves.


Good idea.

Man, I'm waiting so patiently to put these Hybrids on!

Have you tried the bottom side hybrid? It looks nice

[Mr. Intensity]

Good idea.

Man, I'm waiting so patiently to put these Hybrids on!

Have you tried the bottom side hybrid? It looks nice

I haven't personally tried it, but I know some people who did use it. The first version of them were kind of a bust, they dented the bearing edge of the snare because Evans didn't cover the grating well enough. The new current version is pretty nice. It's like the sound of a kevlar head, with the tuning abilities of a mylar head. It's pretty much the best of both worlds according to those I've seen using it. Personally, I wouldn't buy it, but that's because I don't want that sound, but if I were to get one for free to test out, I suppose I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[ChiaPet]

I haven't personally tried it, but I know some people who did use it. The first version of them were kind of a bust, they dented the bearing edge of the snare because Evans didn't cover the grating well enough. The new current version is pretty nice. It's like the sound of a kevlar head, with the tuning abilities of a mylar head. It's pretty much the best of both worlds according to those I've seen using it. Personally, I wouldn't buy it, but that's because I don't want that sound, but if I were to get one for free to test out, I suppose I wouldn't have a problem with it.

What kind of sound do you prefer? How does your drum sound?

[Mr. Intensity]

What kind of sound do you prefer? How does your drum sound?

I like either a wet crispy sound, like an early 2000's BD line, or I like a tight dry sound, like Bluecoats 07/08, or BD 06.

Depending on my mood, I'll change the tuning on my guts to get that sound. Tight and high, I get the nice wet sound, low and loose, I get a nice dry sound. I usually then place a piece of stick tape in the middle of the head so that the snares are pushed against it a bit closer. Sometimes, if I really need to dry it out, I'll put a 2x2" square of paper towel near the logo of the drum and then cover that in stick tape.

Right now, I'd have to say my preferred sound is the tuning of the RX line from this year, I don't know why, but I really liked how dry the drums were. I'm not a big fan of extra buzz, but I do like to have snare response regardless of how I tune the snare or the snare guts.

[ChiaPet]

Ah, I see.

I always preferred and loved a dry sounding drum. It's just an easier way to hear your notes and how your playing is rather than a wet drum.

My old drum, a carbonply, I could never get a dry sound out of it whatsoever. It always had that "wet" tone to it. I reefed the bottom and top heads like crazy too.

[Mr. Intensity]

Ah, I see.

I always preferred and loved a dry sounding drum. It's just an easier way to hear your notes and how your playing is rather than a wet drum.

My old drum, a carbonply, I could never get a dry sound out of it whatsoever. It always had that "wet" tone to it. I reefed the bottom and top heads like crazy too.

That why it never got dry, the more you reef the head, the higher the pitch you'll get (duh). But wet drums like high tunings, I don't know why, but they love high pitches. I've found usually a lower pitched drum with the right tuning of the guts (and with the additional muffling, if that's what you like) gets you the dry sound.

Also, the more guts you have, the wetter the sound. Dynasty's have 12 guts, Yamaha's have 10, and Pearl's have 14. If you've ever listened to most Pearl lines they tend to be fairly wet overall, unless the bottom heads are muffled like crazy. Most corps will cut off snare guts, I know Bluecoats only have 4 guts per snare, Cavaliers have 6 on the center 4 and 4 on the outer 4. The lower the number of snares, the drier the sound. Personally, I never cut guts because I can't exactly afford to just buy a new gut system every time I want to experiment.

Try tuning your top head up in pitch so that it's about a medium tight feel, you should be able to play into the head and still feel a tiny amount of give. Then tune the bottom head so that it has a slightly higher pitch than the top head, but don't choke it off, there should still be some resonance.

With the snares, leave them off until you finish tuning the drum itself. Then lower both sides of the strainer so that if you were to turn the snares on, they wouldn't touch the drum at all.

Take a pencil or pen and slide it under the snares all the way to the rim on the side of the stainer that doesn't have the on/off lever.

There's a bunch of screws on the outside there, each one goes to a gut, loosen all of them until there is zero tension on each gut. Then, on the side where you tighten the guts as a whole, tighten the snares just until you get the slightest, I mean, slightest of tension.

From there, tune each individual gut until there is about a medium tension; for me I should be able to push the guts down to the snare head without feeling like I'm going to break the guts, but I should feel them pushing back...kinda like a trampoline.

Once you get the guts tuned up to the medium pitch, turn the snares on and bring them up to the snare head. Get the snares to make a slight angle from the head when you bring them up, so the strainer on both sides is actually pulling up a bit. On my drum, the angle (assuming the snares are a level surface) to the strainer is about 8-15 degrees, or about an 8th to a 1/4 of an inch up.

From there, use the tuning knob for the guts to tighten the snares how you like them and then if needed, tape the snares to the head itself. Usually a piece right in the middle of the head taping the guts to it works, but you can pretty much experiment here how you like.

Wow, that was way more than I intended to write, haha. Hopefully it'll help get the sound you want. I know with the Dynasty it's much easier to get the drum to be drier than a Pearl.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah.

I know for a fact that my Glassmen drum that is comming in, has around 4 snare guts cut off.

I'm sure it won't be too hard to get it sound dry.

Thanks for the tip, it helped a lot.

Now all I need to is to figure out which pad.

I want an Invader but I hate waiting for things. Like my body doesn't have any bone of patient in it.

[Mr. Intensity]

Yeah.

I know for a fact that my Glassmen drum that is comming in, has around 4 snare guts cut off.

I'm sure it won't be too hard to get it sound dry.

Thanks for the tip, it helped a lot.

Now all I need to is to figure out which pad.

I want an Invader but I hate waiting for things. Like my body doesn't have any bone of patient in it.

No problem, anytime.

I hear you on the patience thing, I'm the same way. I will say, the Invader is worth it for sure, but If you can get the Xymox fast, the I would say go for the Xymox. When I ordered my v2 back in January, I only had to wait about a week for it, but again, that was in January. I think if you order through OP it'll come faster, since they're located in Oregon. Even if they are backordered there, you should still get it sooner than from Lonestar or Columbus of whatever.

[ChiaPet]

Oh my geeeee, Oregon is closer to California than Tejas!

:P

[Mr. Intensity]

Oh my geeeee, Oregon is closer to California than Tejas!

:P

Haha, indeed it is. I'm glad you know your geography.

Haha:D

[ChiaPet]

I've been looking at the V3, the texture of the pad seems really smooth compared to the mountain terrain of the v2. :P

[Mr. Intensity]

I've been looking at the V3, the texture of the pad seems really smooth compared to the mountain terrain of the v2. :P

Indeed it is, haha! I thought I made video that said that...:rolleyes:

[ChiaPet]

Question.

After you order from OP. Do they send you a invoice/tracking number?

[Mr. Intensity]

Question.

After you order from OP. Do they send you a invoice/tracking number?

Yep, they do. Paul and Dave are good people, they take care of things for you.

[ChiaPet]

Alright. Thanks buddy. <3.

[Mr. Intensity]

Alright. Thanks buddy. <3.

Haha, no problem brotha

[ChiaPet]

Heck,

I might just buy two pads.

But then, 100+ for pads is kinda much.

Makes me wanna cringe and cry.

[Mr. Intensity]

Heck,

I might just buy two pads.

But then, 100+ for pads is kinda much.

Makes me wanna cringe and cry.

I hear you on that. I'm about to drop over $100 on some stuff within a few days, it hurts...and it feels so good at the same time.

[ChiaPet]

I remember when Evans used to be terrible when it comes to drumheads. Remember when the MX whites came out? Oh lord. They couldn't hold a tune even if they were free but since the hybrids came out, evans stepped on their game. I can't wait till the system blue line of heads come out.

Ahhhhmazing!

[Mr. Intensity]

I remember when Evans used to be terrible when it comes to drumheads. Remember when the MX whites came out? Oh lord. They couldn't hold a tune even if they were free but since the hybrids came out, evans stepped on their game. I can't wait till the system blue line of heads come out.

Ahhhhmazing!

Dude, I remember that... The MX's were horrible; we had two high schools in our area that used them and hated them, but they had to use them because their instructors were Evans Artists. I hated the snare and tenor heads they were putting out and then they came out with the hybrids and the Corps tenor heads and BAM! They hit hit gold.

I think the System Blue head are going to make Evans a very formidable opponent in the marching world. Remo's going to have to step up their game big time.

[ChiaPet]

I personally think Remo has been sitting on the comfort cloud for so long since Evans never really had a series of heads to compete against Remo. And plus, most top 12 corps uses Remo.

Now that's all changed. I also believe that the Hybrids series haven't had enough exposure yet to be consider "hot" or "famous" in the marching world but we all know it's better.

[Mr. Intensity]

I personally think Remo has been sitting on the comfort cloud for so long since Evans never really had a series of heads to compete against Remo. And plus, most top 12 corps uses Remo.

Now that's all changed. I also believe that the Hybrids series haven't had enough exposure yet to be consider "hot" or "famous" in the marching world but we all know it's better.

True, I really like the Hybrids, but I used White Max's at my high school and then Black Max's for a little while after I graduated. It wasn't until I was in college that I got the Hybrid and I haven't turned back. I love the feeling of the Hybrids over the Max's, which have been time tested for quite some time.

Once Evans gets a few more big corps using the heads, maybe some more tweaks here and there to perfect them; I have a feeling they'll be very hard to top.

[ChiaPet]

Indeed.


I remember in high school for a band review, we had Black Maxes and we left them near our school bus for a lunch break and it was REALLY hot that day. When we came back, the drums had heated up so bad that you could cook an omelet on it. It de-tuned pretty badly too, 5 of 6 snares had dead heads. Terrible. But I guess it wasn't remo's fault.

I played on the Grey's for a while, but the tone was too warm for my liking. It's an amazing head though.


Have you ever tried a Hybrid Batter over a falam 2k snare side?

[Mr. Intensity]

Indeed.


I remember in high school for a band review, we had Black Maxes and we left them near our school bus for a lunch break and it was REALLY hot that day. When we came back, the drums had heated up so bad that you could cook an omelet on it. It de-tuned pretty badly too, 5 of 6 snares had dead heads. Terrible. But I guess it wasn't remo's fault.

I played on the Grey's for a while, but the tone was too warm for my liking. It's an amazing head though.


Have you ever tried a Hybrid Batter over a falam 2k snare side?

I haven't tried that combination, but I wanted to actually. I'm assuming it's going to be kinda similar to the MX5 with the Hybrid combo, but I'm not 100% on that.

[ChiaPet]

I haven't tried that combination, but I wanted to actually. I'm assuming it's going to be kinda similar to the MX5 with the Hybrid combo, but I'm not 100% on that.


Is it it me, or does Evans feel heavier than Remo's?

[Mr. Intensity]

Is it it me, or does Evans feel heavier than Remo's?

I think they do, Evans feels more...industrial, but it does have a heavier feel to it. Remo uses a thinner kevlar weave than Evans does, so that could be why they feel heavier. It's like Evans designed their heads to be wailed on.

[ChiaPet]

What does wailed mean..?

[Mr. Intensity]

What does wailed mean..?

I could have misspelled it. But I mean pounded, slammed...etc. (heavier feel+added durability from the weight of the kevlar=SLAMFEST)

But, if I totally missed the point, that's my fault, I was eating so food became more important than my answer.

[ChiaPet]

Oh today, I went to my local mom and pop music store and I met a very generous old man named Greg or Gary, but knows Scott Johnson personally for 25 years.

I ended up conversation more than I did buying.

:D

[Mr. Intensity]

Oh today, I went to my local mom and pop music store and I met a very generous old man named Greg or Gary, but knows Scott Johnson personally for 25 years.

I ended up conversation more than I did buying.

:D

Haha, nicee. That's awesome. I always end up doing that at my local store too. I'll go in hoping to spend money...and walk out with nothing.

[ChiaPet]

I'm definately trying out for Blue Devils next year.

[Mr. Intensity]

I'm definately trying out for Blue Devils next year.

Word man, I'm trying out for Bluecoats, Crossmen, and Cavaliers. They all have audition camps near me, so it works.

[ChiaPet]

Who knows, maybe if we make it, ill see you at finals. :p

[Mr. Intensity]

Who knows, maybe if we make it, ill see you at finals. :p

Oh yeah, that'd be awesome. We could call our meetup "PDF goes DCI"...cause we're cool like that.

[ChiaPet]

Im still anxious to get my drum in. I've been playing on nothing but a slimpad and I think im starting to get pad hands.

How long did it take for your dynasty to come in?

[Mr. Intensity]

Im still anxious to get my drum in. I've been playing on nothing but a slimpad and I think im starting to get pad hands.

How long did it take for your dynasty to come in?

If I remember correctly, it took about 2, maybe 3 weeks. But I ordered mine back in 2007 from a place in Atlanta called Boom-Boom Percussion. I'm not sure how long it'll take now. I remember I ordered it the day I turned 18, and then I got it the day of our last drumline competition which was about 2-3 weeks after my birthday.

[ChiaPet]

How come you didnt go the custom order way?

Curious..

[Mr. Intensity]

How come you didnt go the custom order way?

Curious..

Money. I wanted the same getup as the '07 BD drums, the black sparkle with chrome, but they wanted an extra $200something for the chrome. I paid around $350 with shipping for just the standard drum, but it would have been near $600 for the custom hardware and color wrap I wanted.

My new favorite drum getup is the RX drums from this year, Black hardware with a black silk color wrap, silver logo....yum.

I suppose I'd actually like to get a new drum at some point, or at least get my hardware stripped and redone in either black or chrome.

[ChiaPet]

Money. I wanted the same getup as the '07 BD drums, the black sparkle with chrome, but they wanted an extra $200something for the chrome. I paid around $350 with shipping for just the standard drum, but it would have been near $600 for the custom hardware and color wrap I wanted.

My new favorite drum getup is the RX drums from this year, Black hardware with a black silk color wrap, silver logo....yum.

I suppose I'd actually like to get a new drum at some point, or at least get my hardware stripped and redone in either black or chrome.

You can send it to Columbus Percussion. They do that type of stuff. Custom orders on used drums. I know they send hardware to get chrome'd to Pearl. So your Dynasty would be a Pearl. :p

[Mr. Intensity]

You can send it to Columbus Percussion. They do that type of stuff. Custom orders on used drums. I know they send hardware to get chrome'd to Pearl. So your Dynasty would be a Pearl. :p

You know, I think I emailed Mark at Dynasty and he sent my email to Columbus. My quote came back for around $180-200 to get the hardware done in black or chrome...I think. Still, I thought maybe I could find a place to do it here in TX cheaper. I know some guys will get it done when the autoshop that they go to puts their stuff into a larger batch of whatever is getting powdercoated or chromed.

I'm probably going to email Columbus anyway and see how much it'll cost, things could have changed price wise.

[ChiaPet]

You know, I think I emailed Mark at Dynasty and he sent my email to Columbus. My quote came back for around $180-200 to get the hardware done in black or chrome...I think. Still, I thought maybe I could find a place to do it here in TX cheaper. I know some guys will get it done when the autoshop that they go to puts their stuff into a larger batch of whatever is getting powdercoated or chromed.

I'm probably going to email Columbus anyway and see how much it'll cost, things could have changed price wise.

You should have got it custom when you got the drum. Everything was MUCH cheaper. I actually have the price quotes.

P01-HDFP - $75
Optional hardware finishes for snare drum: black (1001), white (9003), khaki
(7008), yellow (1016), sun gold (PU98462), orange (2004), red (3002), violet
(4008), dark blue (5002), medium blue (5009), light blue (5023), green
(6032), brown (8007), and cream (9001).

P01-HDFC - $275
Chrome plated Hardware for snare drum

P01-SHFA - $85
Optional laminate shell finish for snare drums: visit
www.dynastyband.com/finishes, 275+ choices, 01 Gloss finish only

P01-SHFB - $85
Optional plastic shell finish for snare drums: sparkles or pearls, visit
www.dynastyband.com/finishes

P01-SHFC - $90
Optional plastic shell finish for snare drums: glass glitters, visit
www.dynastyband.com/finishes

P01-SHFD - $50
Custom Covering for your drums, made from your digital artwork. Self
applied, not warranted.

[Mr. Intensity]

You should have got it custom when you got the drum. Everything was MUCH cheaper. I actually have the price quotes.


So are those the prices to get it done after market, meaning, if I called hem up and got it redone?

When I ordered it was insanely expensive, but it was because I ordered through a smaller company. Mind you, this was....almost 2 years ago when I ordered it.

If those are the quotes now, then I'm gonna pull off the white hybrid I have on my drum and then send it off with I get some more money.

[ChiaPet]

So are those the prices to get it done after market, meaning, if I called hem up and got it redone?

When I ordered it was insanely expensive, but it was because I ordered through a smaller company. Mind you, this was....almost 2 years ago when I ordered it.

If those are the quotes now, then I'm gonna pull off the white hybrid I have on my drum and then send it off with I get some more money.

Sadly, those are the prices if you buy a new drum and want to order a custom drum.

But I'm positive if you email Columbus Percussion and talk to them about it, they'll work things out for you. They've always pulled through for me. If you do call, ask for a guy named Joel Steward. He's head of the marching department and he's REALLY nice. He works Mon-Friday. 1-5.

[Mr. Intensity]

Sadly, those are the prices if you buy a new drum and want to order a custom drum.

But I'm positive if you email Columbus Percussion and talk to them about it, they'll work things out for you. They've always pulled through for me. If you do call, ask for a guy named Joel Steward. He's head of the marching department and he's REALLY nice. He works Mon-Friday. 1-5.

Cool, cool. I'll have to give them a call then, once I've got some money together to do it.

I know I called to see if I could just get a new set of hardware but Dynasty told me they couldn't do that. I have a feeling they don't want people buying their stuff and then reselling drums with their name on it.

Thanks for letting me know about that, you have more experience with them than I do.

[ChiaPet]

Why do you say that?

I mean, you do have LIFETIME WARRANTY. :eek:

[Mr. Intensity]

Why do you say that?

I mean, you do have LIFETIME WARRANTY. :eek:

This is true. This is true. I'll probably give Mark at Dynasty a call and see what is going on there, I've spoken to him before and he really helped me out with alot of stuff.

I wonder if the lifetime warranty includes sending it back to get the hardware redone....hmmm....

[ChiaPet]

This is true. This is true. I'll probably give Mark at Dynasty a call and see what is going on there, I've spoken to him before and he really helped me out with alot of stuff.

I wonder if the lifetime warranty includes sending it back to get the hardware redone....hmmm....

Or you can always be "my rims broke and my lugs are cracking" :p

[Mr. Intensity]

Or you can always be "my rims broke and my lugs are cracking" :p

Hahaha, I suppose I could...but I wouldn't want to lie...not to someone I know, haha. :p

[ChiaPet]

True. Lying's bad anyways.

Well good thing is that Lone Star has the v3 in stock.

Maybe when I get it, I'll make a SPECIAL review just for you!

[Mr. Intensity]

True. Lying's bad anyways.

Well good thing is that Lone Star has the v3 in stock.

Maybe when I get it, I'll make a SPECIAL review just for you!

Hahaha, thanks man. I actually just sent my V2 back to Offworld yesterday, the rim was cracking so they're replacing it for free. I'm not sure which one I'm going to be getting in return, but I'm kinda hoping for another V2, I really liked mine alot, I had a bit of sentimental attachment to it, haha.

[ChiaPet]

Haha. Dont you want a v3 though?

[Mr. Intensity]

Haha. Dont you want a v3 though?

I do, but I dunno, I did a review of the V2, they put it on their website, it was kinda my favorite pad. I mean, if they give me a V3 I'm not going to ask them to take it back.

[ChiaPet]

whats the difference btwn v2 & v3.

[Mr. Intensity]

whats the difference btwn v2 & v3.

The V3 is a little bit larger, I think it's 13 3/4" where the V2 is just about 12 1/2". It's also got a thicker base than the V2 and has a more rounded, slightly narrower rim. oh, and the logo is stamped into the pad rather than printed on it.

[ChiaPet]

And you don't want that? :eek::p

[Mr. Intensity]

And you don't want that? :eek::p

Don't get me wrong, I do, haha, but I'm old school with alot of things. I liked my V2 a whole lot.

If they give me the V3 as a replacement, I won't have any problems with it at all, haha, but I liked my V2 because they only made them for a short time- they're like a limited edition version, haha.

[ChiaPet]

Ahaha.

Did they tell you when they would send you the new one?

[Mr. Intensity]

Ahaha.

Did they tell you when they would send you the new one?

As soon as they get it I suppose. I sent it on Wednesday, via UPS, they should be getting it soon. Then I'm assuming they'll send me the replacement right after that.

By the way, I spoke to my guy at Dynasty, he told me I could go through the factory or through Columbus to get my hardware powder coated. I'm thinkin' black hardware. What do you think?

[ChiaPet]

See, what I'd tell ya! :D I give good help.

Anyways,

I think black powder coat is a really classy look and if you ever get a nick, you can use a sharpie marker. That's what most drum corps do when they don't have time for replacements but I doubt your drum will take that much of an abuse.

Are you getting a custom shell too?

[Mr. Intensity]

See, what I'd tell ya! :D I give good help.

Anyways,

I think black powder coat is a really classy look and if you ever get a nick, you can use a sharpie marker. That's what most drum corps do when they don't have time for replacements but I doubt your drum will take that much of an abuse.

Are you getting a custom shell too?

I don't think so, I kinda like the black as it is. I've always wanted a black on black marching snare, but if they have a good price on the shell finishing as well as the powder coating, I might get both in one go.

We'll see though, it depends on the money. I'm going to give Columbus a call on it later to get a quote.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah. It's better to get it in one go rather than sending it both in at different times. The cost of shipping alone both ways would probably add up to the cost of a new shell finish, etc.

What I do is when I buy something from Columbus, I usually just buy everything I need rather than buy it separately. If it's over 89.00, you get free shipping. :D

[Mr. Intensity]

Yeah. It's better to get it in one go rather than sending it both in at different times. The cost of shipping alone both ways would probably add up to the cost of a new shell finish, etc.

What I do is when I buy something from Columbus, I usually just buy everything I need rather than buy it separately. If it's over 89.00, you get free shipping. :D

This is true. When I was talking to Mark at Dynasty he told me that they only need the hardware from the drum itself, so if I were to get just the hardware done, I'd only need to send just the hardware to Dynasty or to Columbus.

I'm sure I'll know more once I've talked to the guys at Columbus. Hopefully it won't cost too much. Either way, I can get it done from them, or from the guys at Dynasty directly.

[ChiaPet]

I'm pretty sure if you send it through Columbus, they'll have it done faster rather than the guys at Dynasty.

BECAUSEEEE

The season is already in play. So meaning, tons and tons of Corps will need parts/etc.

Just my assumption.

[Mr. Intensity]

I'm pretty sure if you send it through Columbus, they'll have it done faster rather than the guys at Dynasty.

BECAUSEEEE

The season is already in play. So meaning, tons and tons of Corps will need parts/etc.

Just my assumption.

That's the exact same conclusion I came too. I talked to my guy at Dynasty and he told me the same thing, right after I said that exact phrase.

[ChiaPet]

Well good news, I'm ordering tonight for the Invader V3.

How's Lonestar when it comes to shipping? Fast? I never ordered from them before.


Another good powdercoat option is white, I always liked it.

[Mr. Intensity]

Well good news, I'm ordering tonight for the Invader V3.

How's Lonestar when it comes to shipping? Fast? I never ordered from them before.


Another good powdercoat option is white, I always liked it.

Nice man, Lonestar is pretty fast. Sometimes I've gotten my stuff within a day or so, but then again, I"m like, 4 hours away from them.

I never thought about white, I'll have to consider that.

[ChiaPet]

How are their processing? Do I order and then bam, shipping and tracking information the next day?

But I think White on Black would look rather..odd.

[Mr. Intensity]

How are their processing? Do I order and then bam, shipping and tracking information the next day?

But I think White on Black would look rather..odd.

You should actually get your tracking number the same day. As long as you order in the middle of the day you'll get your tracking number very quickly. They send you a confirmation email right after you purchase and then you should have your tracking number within a few hours. The last time I ordered from them they sent me my tracking number within an hour or so, but I think that was because I called them to place the order.

And yeah, I'm seeing white on black to a bit weird...I like black on black with a white top head.

[ChiaPet]

Do you think they'll ship out on Saturdays?

[Mr. Intensity]

Do you think they'll ship out on Saturdays?

I'm pretty sure they will. I have one of their mini pricelists and it says most orders are processed and shipped within 24 hours of receiving the order.

If you order tomorrow, make sure you go through the website, they don't do phone orders on Saturdays.

As long as you get your order in before 3pm central (1 pm your time) then they should have it shipped out which means you should get it by about Wednesday, maybe Thursday of next week.

[ChiaPet]

You make me feel so cuddly about myself. :p

Their site is kinda expensive compared to others but the Invader is probably the cheapest right now.

[Mr. Intensity]

You make me feel so cuddly about myself. :p

Their site is kinda expensive compared to others but the Invader is probably the cheapest right now.

I'm not sure what to say about that first comment....hahaha00**:p

Yeah, they tend to be more expensive than alot of places, but if you need stuff in a hurry then they're the way to go. The guys who own the place are cool dudes, they know their stuff and they try to keep the customers coming back. If you do order from them I hope they treat you like they treat us Texans. If I'm ever in a pinch, I can order on a Monday and have my stuff there by Wednesday at the latest. It's awesome.

[ChiaPet]

Im really anxious to get it.

Honestly, I hate playing on a slimpad. It sounds so hollow and it feels terrible on the hands.

[Mr. Intensity]

Im really anxious to get it.

Honestly, I hate playing on a slimpad. It sounds so hollow and it feels terrible on the hands.

Yeah, I never liked playing on a slimpad either, it's probably why I never bought one. I don't like the way they feel, even with the laminate...it's good, it's just not that good.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah. I think I followed the hype on "OH MY GOD. Bill Bachman has a series of padssssss out. Must buy!!!!"

I hope this Invader doesn't disappoint!

[Mr. Intensity]

Yeah. I think I followed the hype on "OH MY GOD. Bill Bachman has a series of padssssss out. Must buy!!!!"

I hope this Invader doesn't disappoint!

Haha, it won't man. I bought it cause I tried it out first and I love it. I had a hard time not drumming on it, haha. If it's not the best pad you've ever played on, I'll eat my words, but I love it to death. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by it.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah. I hope so.

Because when I saw reviews on it or read about it from people who bought it, I was like "another drum pad, so what?"

Haha.

[ChiaPet]

Oh btw.

Do you recommend any sticks at all? I might as well buy a couple pairs on the way.

So far, I've tried to IP's Cassella, Rennick, Fs-2, Bret Kuhns.

[Mr. Intensity]

Oh btw.

Do you recommend any sticks at all? I might as well buy a couple pairs on the way.

So far, I've tried to IP's Cassella, Rennick, Fs-2, Bret Kuhns.

My current favorite stick is the IP FS-TF, the Tim Fairbanks model. They've got a longer taper than most sticks, so the weight is shifted a bit more towards the hands. It takes a little bit to get used to it but I really like the way they feel in my hands. RX used them this last year, and the 2009 Bluecoats are using them as well. I just ordered two more pairs of them when I ordered my new bottom head.

Another favorite, when I can get a good pair of them, are the FS-MM. They have a slightly higher overall pitch because the bead on the sticks are slightly smaller than some. I like them for more finesse, indoor style playing. They do give you a big sound though, look at Bluecoats 2007 or 2008, they have a huge sound with those sticks.

If you want to go with Vic, try the M-Dawgs, they're very nice. A friend of mine is a tenor player and he loves those sticks to death. I like them, but not enough to switch back to using Vic.

[ChiaPet]

Isn't the Tim Fairbanks, a revision of the Fs-2's?

What bottom head did you order?

I only like the Scott Johnson's, other than that, I can't stand Vic Firth when it comes to marching.

[Mr. Intensity]

Isn't the Tim Fairbanks, a revision of the Fs-2's?

What bottom head did you order?

I only like the Scott Johnson's, other than that, I can't stand Vic Firth when it comes to marching.

The Fairbanks were actually an indoor stick to begin with, 17" by .695 with a barrell style tip. Then they turned it into an outdoor stick (.710). The FS-2's are kinda similar, but I think the Fairbanks feel weighted a bit better. Their design is primarily for indoor use (until now), but you still get a nice full sound at any volume. They like to be played through the head, so you get a huge rebound.

I ordered another Evans MX5, I liked the way it sounded on my drum.

Yeah, the Scott Johnson's are one of my favorite. My senior year we used those on my snareline and I loved them. I actually still have the best pair I ever played with up on my wall at home.

[ChiaPet]

Well, I just ordered the Invader v3 and Mike McIntosh.

I wonder how long it'll take to get here.

Probably not that long because it's in Texas.

[Mr. Intensity]

Well, I just ordered the Invader v3 and Mike McIntosh.

I wonder how long it'll take to get here.

Probably not that long because it's in Texas.

Nice man, good choices. I hope you get a good pair of the McIntosh, It's very rare to get a bad one, but if you get a good one, oh, it's like heaven.

And yeah, it shouldn't take too long. I'm supposed to be getting my stuff in on Tuesday from Steve Weiss Music, and then I'll get my new Bluecoats shirt in too. Woo for gear!

[ChiaPet]

You, texans are so lucky.

You guys are in the central of the United States.

Either way, you get stuff quicker.

:mad::mad::p:p:p

[Mr. Intensity]

You, texans are so lucky.

You guys are in the central of the United States.

Either way, you get stuff quicker.

:mad::mad::p:p:p

Hahaha, true that. But we also have the worst weather patterns...and only one World Class Corps...you have awesome weather, and several Corps. I'm jealous.

BTW: I'm stealing your sig...

[ChiaPet]

:p


So is the transition from the Invader to a real drum easy?

[Mr. Intensity]

:p


So is the transition from the Invader to a real drum easy?

Yeah man, it's a pretty seamless transition. I didn't have any problems at all. I mean, there's always a small transitional time, but sense it feels closer to a real drum, you adjust quickly.

[ChiaPet]

Why's your siggie better than mine. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::(

[Mr. Intensity]

Why's your siggie better than mine. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::(

Haha, copy it and put it in yours man, we can start an Army!

Oh, new drum pics in the other thread.

[ChiaPet]

I just noticed we hijacked this thread. Haha. 8 pages of it.

[Mr. Intensity]

I just noticed we hijacked this thread. Haha. 8 pages of it.

Haha, oh well, we're the unofficial kings of the marching forum.

That can be our Army, the Marching Forum Kings. With the sig I have, we will rule the world.

[ChiaPet]

The marching forum used to be pretty active back in the days. Until it was split up into categories.

[Mr. Intensity]

The marching forum used to be pretty active back in the days. Until it was split up into categories.

This is true. I think now we have fewer people who are really into marching percussion. I mean, they may do it in high school, but I think very few like it as much as us.

[ChiaPet]

Yeah. The siggy isn't working even with the controls.

I think it takes discipline to continue rudimental drumming after high school. Some kids just take it to replace PE credits. Rudimental drumming also takes understanding, a lot of people don't understand it. Then again most people love the drumset and what not.

[Mr. Intensity]

Yeah. The siggy isn't working even with the controls.

I think it takes discipline to continue rudimental drumming after high school. Some kids just take it to replace PE credits. Rudimental drumming also takes understanding, a lot of people don't understand it. Then again most people love the drumset and what not.

I agree with you.

Oh, I know who you are on snarescience.com now. It's pretty easy to tell, haha. I'm not a member there, but I do frequent it.

[ChiaPet]

And who am I? :eek:

I'm telling you, you should definitely install AIM so we can chat it up.

[Mr. Intensity]

And who am I? :eek:

I'm telling you, you should definitely install AIM so we can chat it up.

cassidyphuey

I figured it was you because of the "phu", it was in your email. And then you put our Army logo in your sig, so that confirmed it.

You should get a facebook so we can chat it up, haha.

[ChiaPet]

butttt Aim is like an instant messager thing. Facebook is like a Myspace thing.

;P

[Mr. Intensity]

butttt Aim is like an instant messager thing. Facebook is like a Myspace thing.

;P

But Facebook has this instant messenger right in it. It's like MySpace+AIM. It's like crack really, haha. So addicting.

[ChiaPet]

Gah. PM your facebook and I'll create this so called "Facebook" :P

[Mr. Intensity]

Gah. PM your facebook and I'll create this so called "Facebook" :P

Haha, yess. I'll send you my name to look me up.