900 Hardware ?

[JohnMuise]

i never seen pics of this yet, what they look like ?

[Hook]

Here you go!

The 900 Series hardware...

[Doogie...]

got any close ups of each one hook???

[arsenick]

Is there any info when they are available in Europe and how much they will cost?

[JohnMuise]

is that pedal available in a twin ?

[Tom Reyns]

Do the joints (or w/e they're called) have infinite positionings for 180 degrees or do they have ( 50 ) teeth like the 800 series?

[BIG Red]

hmmm. . . they kinda look like stripped down verisons of pearl's high end stuff. Pretty sweet if you ask me.

[ebuzzcut]

Is this bass single or double chain?

[brandagnostic]

Nice looking hardware! How much does the straight cymbal stand weigh?

[.:On The Rock:.]

So are they gear tilters or unilocks?

[DrummerDave55]

in the U.S. its about 900 dollars

[teej]

The pedals are single chain

[ELX825DH]

Probably a stupid question, but much comparrison from the 900's to the 800's?
Nick

[Private_Snowball]

these are updaded. and have a new gear mechinism i think.

[Tom Reyns]

I am wondering whether they have gear tilters or unilocks since the 900 should come directly between 800 and 1000 series... Will either the 800 or 1000 be discontinued?

[Son of Shub-Niggurath]

is that pedal available in a twin ?

I'm pretty sure that you can buy a slave pedal attachment to turn it into a twin pedal. If Pearl is willing to do that, then it also makes sense to me that they would make a regular twin pedal for the 900 series.

[Got_Milk]

I'm confused, because they do have unilocks, but they're not as "good" as the 1000 series.... What's the difference between the two?

[Private_Snowball]

its probably like the tama quick set things probably.

[coke light lemon]

in the U.S. its about 900 dollars

don´t you think 900 dollars are a BIT expensive for that little bunch of hardware?

[Private_Snowball]

agreed i would think a hardwear set like that would cost £180 around $340

[AgateDrummer]

don´t you think 900 dollars are a BIT expensive for that little bunch of hardware?
Yeah, but you get a free Vision kit with it! ;)

[champdave]

agreed i would think a hardwear set like that would cost £180 around $340

I think you mean £180, around $200 for our US compatriots :p

[coke light lemon]

Yeah, but you get a free Vision kit with it! ;)

LOL :D

[Private_Snowball]

I think you mean £180, around $200 for our US compatriots :p

hmm i thought it was almost double that now. becasue its like $1.80 to the £

[AL PERCIVAL]

So are they gear tilters or unilocks?

unilock.

[Private_Snowball]

wow. none of that gear lock carp!

will the exports be having this hardwear or will it still have the 800 series?

[AL PERCIVAL]

here's some pic's of the 900 series hardware on the Vision kit from NAMM

[AL PERCIVAL]

wow. none of that gear lock carp!

will the exports be having this hardwear or will it still have the 800 series?

The standard EX kits 100% poplar will continued to have the 800 hardware package on their shell packs.

The ECX Custom 100% All Maple Shell series will be "Pick your own individual hardware series" (translation - no hardware packs). :) :D

[Private_Snowball]

amazing! the exports are now too posh for hardwear packs :D

[mano_drums]

so explain somethin plz, the ECX series is over the Vision series, then the EX series, then the Forum series??

note the "one above each" as qualitywise, i mean one higuer than theo other as in the wood quality,

do I explain myself?

[PanamaDrummer911]

so explain somethin plz, the ECX series is over the Vision series, then the EX series, then the Forum series??

note the "one above each" as qualitywise, i mean one higuer than theo other as in the wood quality,

do I explain myself?
Yes, except there are no forums anymore.

[coke light lemon]

The standard EX kits 100% poplar will continued to have the 800 hardware package on their shell packs.

The ECX Custom 100% All Maple Shell series will be "Pick your own individual hardware series" (translation - no hardware packs). :) :D

what is the price of the ecx without hardware? will they be cheaper or more expensive than the visions?

[Private_Snowball]

id say somewere between the session and the ELX price tag. in $'s i have no idea in £'s my guess would be £650-700

[donkey]

Is there a substantial gap of quality between the 1000 and 900 hardware?

[Got_Milk]

Do Visions have superhoops or 1.6 mm?

[Genius Switch]

Do Visions have superhoops or 1.6 mm?

I'm guessing 1.6mm. If they had SH it would definetly be mentioned on the specs.

[AL PERCIVAL]

I'm guessing 1.6mm. If they had SH it would definetly be mentioned on the specs.

1.6mm steel hoops. I wish they were 2.3 triple flanged or SH too!

[Private_Snowball]

the new ECX's should have the 2.3mm hoops.

[Got_Milk]

Okay, so now that there are no sessions, and the visions and new export both have 1.6 mm hoops, and all of the 5 masters series kits have die cast hoops, which kits have superhoops?

[DD_drummer44]

Okay, so now that there are no sessions, and the visions and new export both have 1.6 mm hoops, and all of the 5 masters series kits have die cast hoops, which kits have superhoops?

Forum 2... the comeback?

[dis330]

1.6mm steel hoops. I wish they were 2.3 triple flanged or SH too!

Al,

Are the hoops made in the China Factory? If so, hopfully they will be better than the Tiawan version. The chrome plating seems to be better in the pictures.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Al,

Are the hoops made in the China Factory? If so, hopfully they will be better than the Tiawan version. The chrome plating seems to be better in the pictures.

The entire Vision series is made in China. The kit, shell material, hardware plating, lacquer, wraps, finishing, everything.

[SweetDrums1234]

that 900 series hardware looks sweet! i might be picking up one of those boom stands.

[AndJustice4All68]

are there gonna be cymbal holders available for a rack or is it only gonna be available with Vision kits?

[grindcorfu]

Hello, the 900 series hardware does it will include a Double Tom stand((T-900)), a Cymbal/Tom stand((TC-900)) and a B-800W style Heavy Duty Cymbal Boom stand((B-900))??? Or only the shown in the picture S-900, BC-900, C-900, H-900 and single pedal P-900 and will they be available in Europe??? Thanx alot!!!

[arsenick]

will they be available in Europe??? Thanx alot!!!

I'd really appreciate this information, too. And WHEN they are afterall available?!

[AgateDrummer]

I'd guess that it'll be availavble when the Visions are available, which should be later this month, from everything they've been telling us.

[AL PERCIVAL]

Hello, the 900 series hardware does it will include a Double Tom stand((T-900)), a Cymbal/Tom stand((TC-900)) and a B-800W style Heavy Duty Cymbal Boom stand((B-900))??? Or only the shown in the picture S-900, BC-900, C-900, H-900 and single pedal P-900 and will they be available in Europe??? Thanx alot!!!


We (Pearl USA) cannot tell you what or when certain items will be in stock for Pearl Europe customers.

Please e-mail jim rapp (Pearl Europe Rep)

Jim.Rapp@pearleurope.com

[Hilbert]

I mailed our (holland) distributer and they said it will be available next month in the netherlands, so the rest of europe will get them maby a little later, or earlier...

[coke light lemon]

al,
are only the visions and their hardware parts made in the china factory or also the new ecx and other hardware and spare parts?

can you also tell me, where both (china and taiwan)factorys are, maybe the coordinates? i would like to see them on google earth

or is there any asian pearl website?

thanks

[Genius Switch]

al,
are only the visions and their hardware parts made in the china factory or also the new ecx and other hardware and spare parts?

can you also tell me, where both (china and taiwan)factorys are, maybe the coordinates? i would like to see them on google earth

or is there any asian pearl website?

thanks

The ECX from what I know is still mde in the Taiwan factory. Only Vision series drums and hardware is made in the new China facility.

http://www.pearlgakki.com/ ....pearl makes flutes too.

[coke light lemon]

lol everything on this page is: ??????? pearl ???? masterworks ???? sabian ??????? artist ???? chad smith ??????? :D :D

and what about google earth coordinates?? :(

[coke light lemon]

al??

[AL PERCIVAL]

al??

900 series hardware? where is it made? is that the question?
Yes, the entire Vision package is done at the new China Facility with the exception of the chrome plating which is done outside at a custom detailer.

Everything else from Masterworks down to the FX and EX kits are made in Taiwan.

[Lammy]

are you also made in taiwan al? :D

[Against]

^ Lmao.

[coke light lemon]

900 series hardware? where is it made? is that the question?
Yes, the entire Vision package is done at the new China Facility with the exception of the chrome plating which is done outside at a custom detailer.

Everything else from Masterworks down to the FX and EX kits are made in Taiwan.

thx

[AL PERCIVAL]

are you also made in taiwan al? :D

I was "made" plated, built and lacquered in San Francisco, CA :) :D

[Thrashed]

^^ haha

[skywalker2]

I'm confused, because they do have unilocks, but they're not as "good" as the 1000 series.... What's the difference between the two?


this is probably the most to the point question here, although it was nice knowing where al was made. :p

So what makes it 'not as good' as the 1000 series aside from the number and a little less black on them?

[rhythm_traveler_07]

I just picked up a couple of the BC-900's yesterday for the great price of $72 a piece. GREAT hardware. I love the Unilocks. Very sturdy all-around. The stands also saw their first night out last night. The first of many. haha. But yes, good hardware especially considering the price.

RT

[smoothgroove]

I ordered a 900 snare stand, I'll take pics when it comes in

[DD_drummer44]

Do they have memory locks?

[rhythm_traveler_07]

No

RT

[1337Drummer]

Are the wing-nuts on the in any way different from the normal (the ones on the forum, export, and rythm traveler) wing-nuts, or are they more like the wing-locks. And do the wing-locks work on any stand? Or just the ones that they come with?

[rhythm_traveler_07]

there just regular plastic wingnuts (sort of like the tama roadpro's) but they have metal sleeves in them to prevent stripping, or I guess thats what the metal part is for.

RT

[Parky500]

Im buying my very own....rare...but legendary 'AL'

[Got_Milk]

My question didn't really get answered earlier, so if Al could help me out here, that'd be great.

What is the difference between 900 series and 1000 series (at least in the area of boom/straight stands)? Is there a big difference between the two in terms of snare stand/hi-hat stand?

[smoothgroove]

I just bought a new 900 snare stand yesterday, I'll post pics of it soon. Its GREAT

[rhythm_traveler_07]

can you do me a really big favor and see if there is any possible way to fit a 10" in it. I 've been debating picking one up for my 10".

[skywalker2]

My question didn't really get answered earlier, so if Al could help me out here, that'd be great.

What is the difference between 900 series and 1000 series (at least in the area of boom/straight stands)? Is there a big difference between the two in terms of snare stand/hi-hat stand?


same here. From what it looks like, they just have less black colored parts and say 900 instead of 1k. (which is awesome, as long as its noticeably better than the 800 series, i'll be thrilled.)

[smoothgroove]

can you do me a really big favor and see if there is any possible way to fit a 10" in it. I 've been debating picking one up for my 10".

sure man, I'll go put my 10" tom into it and pm you back!

[rhythm_traveler_07]

thanks man.

[smoothgroove]

finally got some pics together of my new 900 snare stand. Its a great buy, very nice hardware. Get this..800 series snare stand..$55...900 series snare stand..$55! You tell ME what the better deal is

[coke light lemon]

wow i think the 900 series hardware is real high quality hardware. it looks stable and cool.

and btw nice carpet :-)

[ebuzzcut]

If it is holding a DW it must be good! lol
Man that does look pretty nice, especially for the price.

[Pearl-Drumz]

nice..

[Parky500]

Does that stand have memory locks???

[smoothgroove]

Does that stand have memory locks???

nope, but thats cool with me, I dont mind at all

[DrummerOfDarkness]

those 900 boom stands are gona be POP-U-LAR because they are fold away like the export oens AND they have a uni-lock.

[smoothgroove]

the uni lock is really cool, I've always loved them. Nice and smooth, and they lock very securely

[skywalker2]

man those are some sweet pics smoothgroove! would you say that there is noticable difference between this and the 800 series? I always felt that tama's roadpro was a bit sturdier and more durable than the 800 series, which is the only thing that made me stay away from getting a brand new export, but now it look like its not the case anymore!

[smoothgroove]

man those are some sweet pics smoothgroove! would you say that there is noticable difference between this and the 800 series? I always felt that tama's roadpro was a bit sturdier and more durable than the 800 series, which is the only thing that made me stay away from getting a brand new export, but now it look like its not the case anymore!

There are great differences. The 800 has smaller, old school rubber feet, its not as sturdy, not as stylish, different bracing on the legs, and the BIGGEST difference is the gearless tilter on the 900, whereas the 800 has a cheap, geared tilter

[skywalker2]

There are great differences. The 800 has smaller, old school rubber feet, its not as sturdy, not as stylish, different bracing on the legs, and the BIGGEST difference is the gearless tilter on the 900, whereas the 800 has a cheap, geared tilter


awesome! What about the tubing? I always hated that the 800 series tubing would slim down a little bit before the ends. (i.e. just before the cymbal seat on the hi hat.)

[Tay]

It seems to me that the new 900 series is just a revamp of the older 855 series from a few years ago. It was discontinued when the 1000 and 2000 series hardware was released. The 1000 series gear is just an upgraded version of the 855 stuff...

So it seems as if the new 900 is essentially a newer remake of the 855 series, designed for more people on a budget the cant afford the 1000 series.
Take a look at that snare stand above. It looks EXACTLY like the late model 855 snare stand, only with a few of the newer Pearl upgrdes, such as the feet and tube joints.

That said, I love it so far. I was always a big fan of the 855 series, and have wanted to track down a few more of those stands. Now it looks like I wont have to.

I'm seriously considering selling all of my RoadPro hardware and picking up this stuff for my practice kits. We'll see about that soon...

[smoothgroove]

It seems to me that the new 900 series is just a revamp of the older 855 series from a few years ago. It was discontinued when the 1000 and 2000 series hardware was released. The 1000 series gear is just an upgraded version of the 855 stuff...

So it seems as if the new 900 is essentially a newer remake of the 855 series, designed for more people on a budget the cant afford the 1000 series.
Take a look at that snare stand above. It looks EXACTLY like the late model 855 snare stand, only with a few of the newer Pearl upgrdes, such as the feet and tube joints.

I agree. Its alot like it, just more solid, sturdy, better built, and newer parts and stuff

[AL PERCIVAL]

The 900 series technology-wise is nicer cleaner than the older 855W and 855WL series. Both use similar uni-lock systems, although I have to admit, I liked the counterweight on the longer 855WL. Also the 855W came complete with stop locks on each pipe joint setting.

[smoothgroove]

The 900 series technology-wise is nicer cleaner than the older 855W and 855WL series. Both use similar uni-lock systems, although I have to admit, I liked the counterweight on the longer 855WL. Also the 855W came complete with stop locks on each pipe joint setting.

Thanks Al. Your Pearl knowledge is immense

[jeremiah]

Any confirmation on a slave upgrade or 900 double pedal yet?

[Tay]

The 900 series technology-wise is nicer cleaner than the older 855W and 855WL series. Both use similar uni-lock systems, although I have to admit, I liked the counterweight on the longer 855WL. Also the 855W came complete with stop locks on each pipe joint setting.

I agree on the counter weight, and the locks were nice.

But, considering that at that time, the 855 series was Pearl's top-end.
Since they've introduced the 1000 series, and now the cheaper 900 series, I can see why they chose to leave a few features out, otherwise there wouldnt be much point in upgrading even more to the 1000 series gear.

[CatBoy75]

I saw the 900 series hardware at a music store here in town, it looks great. Real solid, well made, and very user friendly. Nobody does hardware like Pearl! I think the 900 series will fill in a niche for the players who want pro features but might not want or need ALL the bells and whistles of the top Pearl line stuff.

[IBA_drummer]

Check the link for pics of my gigging setup with ALMOST all 900 hardware...

Clicky Here (http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=176515)

Sorry it took so long for pics DRUMMER_726

[rhythm_traveler_07]

hahahaha you got banned.

never liked you anyways.

[Strat-Master]

Who got banned?

[rhythm_traveler_07]

IBA_drummer. long story :)

[Pearl-Drumz]

is there a 900 series double kick??

[U2Johnny]

Let me just say that I got a B900 boom stand today and it's absolutley amazing! I gotta get all 900 series stands after playing this sucker!

[rhythm_traveler_07]

^^word. i <3 my BC900's

[arsenick]

PEARL STAFF!! Please someone read this! Why can't you send 900-hardware separately to Finland? Finnish dealer said he has ordered them but you said you won't. I mean, it would be perfect hardware line. Do something about this so we could here in Finland buy those stands, too...without visions kit. :P

[Pearl-Drumz]

....anyone??

[Demfer]

I might use the 900 boom stands for my next setup they look really nice!

[The Dorian]

My Visions just came in...the 900 hardware is absolutely perfect. It's so heavy duty.

[U2Johnny]

I might use the 900 boom stands for my next setup they look really nice!

They are! I just bought one and let me say, this thing is NEVER going to slip.

[ebuzzcut]

I need to pick up all 900 series hardware for my kit, it sounds sweet! Anyone try the bass, or the hi-hat stand? They actually look like they would be nice for gigging!

[CatBoy75]

Congratulations!My Visions just came in...the 900 hardware is absolutely perfect. It's so heavy duty.

[TWH]

I have a few questions regarding the 900 series hardware that I hope Al can answer. 00**

1. Will there be a twin pedal slave upgrade for the 900 series single pedal?
2. Can you add a toe stop to the 900 series pedal? (part number?)
3. Is pearl going to offer a 900 series cymbal holder?

Thanks in advance..

[TWH]

Just got a copy of the 2007 price list and it doesn't show a 900 series cymbal holder or twin pedal slave upgrade either. Hopefully in the future sometime.

Would still like to know if you can add a toe stop to the 900 pedal though.

[weldrum]

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=178662 (http://)

I have pictures of them together and individually there.

[TWH]

I couldn't get the link to work, but I've seen your group photo of the hardware pack. Looks like the pedal has a slot for the toe stop assembly, but it's hard to say without a close-up shot. After looking at the 04' parts catalog, there are two different toe stop assemblies available. One for the eliminator pedals, and one for the 201, and 101 series.

Your setup looks sweet so far, update?

[weldrum]

As in a closeup picture of the pedal?

I couldn't get the link to work, but I've seen your group photo of the hardware pack. Looks like the pedal has a slot for the toe stop assembly, but it's hard to say without a close-up shot. After looking at the 04' parts catalog, there are two different toe stop assemblies available. One for the eliminator pedals, and one for the 201, and 101 series.

Your setup looks sweet so far, update?

[TWH]

Yeah, if it's not too much trouble, or just take a close look at your pedal to see if there is a slot towards the top. I'm really leaning towards a vision kit, and I really would like to be able to add a toe stop to the pedal. If I can't, I'll look towards getting the shell kit by itself and a 1000 series pack.

[weldrum]

I'll check when I get home, And let you know.

[weldrum]

There are two threaded holes. Not a slot. So I geuss there are only two positions you'd be able to place the stop.

[TWH]

I saw the induvidual photos and I can see the two small holes your talking about. Pretty sure you can mount one there,.............but which one? I'll see if I can get Gene or Al to answer that in the fist aid section.

Thanks again.

[weldrum]

Both holes are threaded, and the same size.

[Trollet]

How much do those 900 Boom Stands weight? I'd love to have a lighter alternative to the B-1000 stands

[skywalker2]

they probably arent that much lighter, but enough to warrant the difference betweent he two series. I know that they lack memory locks, but i don't think that it adds a tremendous amount of weight.


Many people who have tried them out/own them have commented on the noticable beefy-ness of these stands over the 800 series.

[jess7]

i reckon those holes are so u can adjust were u put the toe stop. :cool:

[TWH]

Not sure. Gene Okomato says the eliminator toe stop will work.

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=179614