View Full Version : So, I did a little research
blade123
10-10-2006, 07:53 PM
And I found out what I would need to start recording. All I want...........more as afford.........well, more as beg for for Christmas, is a mixer and some drum mics. It comes out to $190+headphones.
I'm worried, because I know what happens when you're cheap, so are these of decent quality?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-Eurorack-UB1202FX-Mixing-Board?sku=631258
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-Pro4-Drum-Mic-Pack?sku=271262
And if not, what can I get that's around that price range?
p-mack
10-10-2006, 08:36 PM
as a starter "recording kit", those are ok.
you could just upgrade to better stuff if you have enough dough saved up.
personally, if i was in your position, that's what i'd do.
surftex363
10-11-2006, 06:01 AM
as a starter "recording kit", those are ok.
you could just upgrade to better stuff if you have enough dough saved up.
personally, if i was in your position, that's what i'd do.
dont listen to him, your recordings are gonna sound like **** if you buy that
Zorlee
10-11-2006, 06:48 AM
Don't buy those mic packs! You'll end up getting bad results and spending more money because you want to improve the quality - and therefore replacing them!
Buy some good, yet relatively cheap, mics, like an SM57 for the snare (very cheap!), a couple of Studio Projects B1's as overheads (also very cheap) and spend a little extra on a bassdrum mic!
That way you don't have to replace the mics - you can just add to your collection!
Stay away from everything that looks like it's too good to be true (I'm thinking about price here), because it usually is pretty bad! The only mic pack I would've bough, if I HAD to, was the Audix Fusion pack. But again, only if I had to!
The mixer is great FOR THE PRICE. Actually the price has dropped from what it was before because Behringer has a newer model, they just haven't gone full out for close out yet.
The mics? Almost bought some to try out because of the price. But the unique integral drum rim clamp on the snare/tom mics put me off. NO option to use on other clamps or a stand, at least without duct tape or drilling involved ;>(
CAD makes a slight upgraded series to those for about $30 more for a 4pc drum mic kit. The Audix Fusion pack Zorlee mentions runs nearer $250 US but everybody seems to like them.
I use SM57s around top (just got a beta 56 for snare last gig) and a D6 bass, but wanted some inexpensive pencil condensers to go with. I picked up an inexpensive one to try out off eBay a while back. Liked it enough to get another 2 of the same, again with patience for a good deal on eBay. The same seller had a drum mic kit but had been out for a while. Now they have a mic kit with 2 snare/tom mics, one tom/bass mic (each with a clip on rim clamp like the Sennhieser 604s), and 2 of those condensers. What can I say, I bid on a whim and got the drum mic kit ;>) $105 SHIPPED! I KNOW I like the condensers but haven't tried the dynamics yet. I plan on trying them on my toms on the 20 Oct. gig. www.audiopile.com is the seller, also has a regular store/website. He sells the kit for $150 plus shipping, two condensers for $130 plus shipping, single condenser for $70 plus, you guessed it, shipping. The guy doesn't BS you and describes them as he would to a pro sound guy (that he is).
With the mentioned mixer you only have 4 mic channels, the stereo channels are near (but not completely) useless for micing. No EQ on the stereo channels and they should have a mic preamp to feed them right. Better to spend a little more on the mixer if you want more mic channels. So with that 5pc mic kit I mentioned above, you could run two overhead condensers (with Phantom Power, mixer has that) and the so-so bass mic for a decent recording. Yes, you COULD pick up a few transformer adapting XLR to 1/4" TS plugs and run dynamic mics via the stereo channels. Then use the cheap set dynamics via the stereo channels for individual toms and better quality bass and maybe snare mics on the XLR channels. But it's best and cheaper to buy a mixer with more XLR mic channels to start with instead of using add ons.
weps
.:On The Rock:.
10-11-2006, 07:19 PM
i would get a mixer with more channels, therefor you can add on more mics after(overheads, more drum mics). and the mic set is overall very cheap.
Midnight Camel
10-11-2006, 09:44 PM
i'd invest in good quality mics from the start, other wise you'll probably end up getting rid of them eventually anyways and in the mean time you'll have crap recordings. my $.02
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