Low-Frequency Sub-Bass Boom

[helhedded]

I remember first hearing David Silveria use it with Korn years ago. Fear Factory also uses it but I think its done by their keyboard player, and it has always been in Chimaira's music. It so widespread nowadays it is used in Alternative Rock to Death Metal. But still I think its a great electronic sound that can accent very well as long as it is not overused.




Can you basically get this sound out of any drum machine? or drum module?
Preferably Alesis Modules?

The reason why I ask is that I am currently saving up for triggers and I would like to add an additional electronic pad in my set-up for sounds like this.

[Jonny]

If it's what I'm thinking it is, I'd love to add one to my setup. Travis Barker used a pad with this sound when I saw them, in place of where his left side floor tom would be and I believe God Forbid uses one on the intro to the track End Of The World, correct me if I'm wrong :confused:

Am I thinking of the right thing?

[Butnutz]

Most modern modules contain "Samplers" which you can load any sound you like into...some require the sounds to be shorter than a certain length.[since it is likely to be a total of less than 1 full second, you have nothing to worry about]

once you decide on a module, let me know and i can find or make a LF boom to fit you needs.

[helhedded]

awesome^ thanks. Can you load into an Alesis DM5?

[helhedded]

If it's what I'm thinking it is, I'd love to add one to my setup. Travis Barker used a pad with this sound when I saw them, in place of where his left side floor tom would be and I believe God Forbid uses one on the intro to the track End Of The World, correct me if I'm wrong :confused:

Am I thinking of the right thing?

No. I just listened to End of the World, and that is a backwards sample of something..

What I'm talking about can only be heard if your stereo has a powered subwoofer. This is a very low boomy "bass boost" .

[JrummerJ]

I know that there are a few available to load on my Ddrum module, and the Rolands that I have played around with also have some. You can find one you like the sound and decay of and then change the pitch to your desire.

J

[Jonny]

No. I just listened to End of the World, and that is a backwards sample of something..

Which version of End Of The World do you have, I'm talking about the longer version with the guitar intro. Are you thinking of the bit that makes an 'errrrrrrr' sound right before the drums kick in?

[helhedded]

Are you thinking of the bit that makes an 'errrrrrrr' sound right before the drums kick in?


yep. thats the version I have.

[Butnutz]

awesome^ thanks. Can you load into an Alesis DM5?

i dont think so, but you should be able to assign one of your pads to a kick sample that is pitch shifted down, and that might do the trick.

[Awful]

awesome^ thanks. Can you load into an Alesis DM5?

No, but the "sub thump" sound is on there. I will play with mine later to see what it's called for sure. :D

[helhedded]

No, but the "sub thump" sound is on there. I will play with mine later to see what it's called for sure. :D

thanks!

[Awful]

thanks!

There are two that could be used for it. The "Rap wave" in the kicks section. Also the "boom tom low" in the toms section. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me. I would be glad to assist.

[thewildestturkey]

I think i read somewhere you can get that sound be taking a 808/909 kick sound and reverbing the bejesus out of it. Cant remember the finnesse of it, but i think the 808 is the key to success.

Cheers TWT

[Psylence]

Anyone know how to get this sound out of a Roland TD-12? I just bought it last week and am still learning how to use it.

[Butnutz]

Anyone know how to get this sound out of a Roland TD-12? I just bought it last week and am still learning how to use it.


have to create a custom kit and assign one of the sounds to be something suitable.

[helhedded]

I think i read somewhere you can get that sound be taking a 808/909 kick sound and reverbing the bejesus out of it. Cant remember the finnesse of it, but i think the 808 is the key to success.

Cheers TWT


The 808/909 is a Roland only sound right?

[thewildestturkey]

The 808/909 is a Roland only sound right?

Not sure, you may be right. Its that really vintage electronic kick drum sound
I do have it written down somewhere i will try to find it.

[Butnutz]

The 808/909 is a Roland only sound right?


originally, yes. Its basically multiple oscilators fed through an ASDR/envelope filter. i think i have an 808 and a 909 samples kicking around at home....ill post em when i find them.

[jeebustrain]

you can replicate the sound fairly well with any "analog kick" sample (what the TR-808 was) and just set the AEG decay as long as it'll go. I can do it with no problem in both my DTXpress module and my Roland SPD-20.

[jacobthetongue]

I remember first hearing David Silveria use it with Korn years ago. Fear Factory also uses it but I think its done by their keyboard player, and it has always been in Chimaira's music. It so widespread nowadays it is used in Alternative Rock to Death Metal. But still I think its a great electronic sound that can accent very well as long as it is not overused.




Can you basically get this sound out of any drum machine? or drum module?
Preferably Alesis Modules?

The reason why I ask is that I am currently saving up for triggers and I would like to add an additional electronic pad in my set-up for sounds like this.

I don't know about the Alesis modules, but I have recorded the "BBBOOOOOMMM" several times now with the "hip hop" drum patch in my ZOOM drum machine. I imagine most drum machines would have this boom in it, but I only know that the ZOOM and Boss ones do for sure.. Hope that helps.

[Awful]

There are three 909 kick sounds on the Alesis DM5. I use 909 #2 quite frequently, but it's not much of a "boooom".

[Psylence]

I think i read somewhere you can get that sound be taking a 808/909 kick sound and reverbing the bejesus out of it. Cant remember the finnesse of it, but i think the 808 is the key to success.

Cheers TWT

I got best results starting with the 808 kick sound. I tuned it down a bit and added a load of sustain. Sounds pretty close to the one David Silveria uses.

[thewildestturkey]

I got best results starting with the 808 kick sound. I tuned it down a bit and added a load of sustain. Sounds pretty close to the one David Silveria uses.

Glad i could help. post a sample of how it turned out.
TWT

[Majyk Oyster]

there's a boom bass sample in my Ddrum 4 module. I use it all the time :cool:

[Awful]

there's a boom bass sample in my Ddrum 4 module. I use it all the time :cool:

I want your module, may I have it... pretty please?

[xhxcdrummerx]

uh... a song from As I Lay Dying called Empty Hearts has a "sub-boom" near the begining of the song.

[Majyk Oyster]

I want your module, may I have it... pretty please?
ok. send me $50.000.

[Oryon_Drummer]

You can make this sound yourself if you have a synth/sampler program like reason or even most keyboards. It's an 80hz sine wave with a detuned kickdrum sync'd up for the attack and a reverb tale of however long you want the BOOM to decay for.

[TuoKaerf]

The way it is usually done in the studio is by patching the board's ocillator (selected to about 60hz) into a channel. Turn the gates on, and sidechain in the kick drum.

To do this on the computer, pull up a tone generator. Insert this onto an aux track, and select the kick drum as the plugins sidechain input. Automate the plugin's bypass.

[Psylence]

The way it is usually done in the studio is by patching the board's ocillator (selected to about 60hz) into a channel. Turn the gates on, and sidechain in the kick drum.

To do this on the computer, pull up a tone generator. Insert this onto an aux track, and select the kick drum as the plugins sidechain input. Automate the plugin's bypass.

Ha ha... waaaaaay too technical for me :D

[DemonKnight5150]

How would you get that BOOOOOM out of a MicroKorg synthesizer if anyone has one?

The boom I'm thinking of is very prominent on Strapping Young Lad's Alien CD and on Laid To Rest by Lamb of God off of Ashes of the Wake.

[Myvanpounds]

Ha ha... waaaaaay too technical for me :D

yup but knowledge like this is valuable. I know my DTX 2.0 has a 909 clone I also have alot of sub sounds almost like a detune bass guitar. the variables are endless. I would go about 60hz myself 30-40 would be nice if you have a real badass sub setup. but most peoples stereos can't get lower than 60-80hz.
20-30 rumble in your pants bass
30-60 loud to the ear bass
60-100hz is nice thump in the chest bass

[TuoKaerf]

20-30hz is Brown Note range :-D .

I usually try and stay above 60hz when I add bottom end to something. Most of the people who will listen to my mixes will listen on headphones and computer speakers, and the average consumer speaker won't take anything under 60-80hz.