Show us your E-Kits!

[Ricola]

C'mon! Lets see some!
I'll start with mine:
Roland TD-6
Spendor Speakers
Fisher stereo
Sony CD-Player
Sennheiser wireless headphones

Oh, and Hook, a sticky would be nice :)
Thanks!

[Ricola]

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[Ricola]

Come on, 53 views and no posts?

[JrummerJ]

Here is mine. You probably already saw the thread below, but oh well. My thread about my acoustic to electronic conversion got 85 views and 6 posts of which 3 are mine!

[Ricola]

That trigger above the FT is the ride, right? (duh...)
It looks nice, I've never seen an acoustic to electric conversion...it kind of confuses me why someone would do it :confused:
But if it floats your boat, DO IT! :D

[JrummerJ]

That trigger above the FT is the ride, right? (duh...)
It looks nice, I've never seen an acoustic to electric conversion...it kind of confuses me why someone would do it :confused:
But if it floats your boat, DO IT! :D

Yes, that is the ride, but it will soon be replaced with one of the real looking DIY cymbals.

There are lots of good reasons: Looks, to save some $$$, for fun.

For me it was: one, I had my old export kit, a Ddrum module, and triggers sitting around my house. Two, I have two kids and don't get to play drums much at home (my tama SCPs are at our band's practice room). Three, I don't have the $$$ to go out and buy a whole e-kit and this only cost me about $375 to do. Four, they still look a real drumset for the most part. Five, I wouldn't have had room to get an e-kit and store my exports.

J

[Ricola]

What do you think of the DDrum Module? Is it comparable to a roland TD(insert # here) or is it different?

[JrummerJ]

What do you think of the DDrum Module? Is it comparable to a roland TD(insert # here) or is it different?

I love the Ddrum module! However, there are some things about it that are somewhat limiting.

Pros:
Fast triggering
Very easy to adjust for accurate and dynamic triggering
Lots of sounds - you can load samples of some really great drummers' kits (Kenny Aronoff, Simon Phillips, Dennis Chambers, Mel ***nor, and more)
Great sounding samples
Able to send 6 outputs, for example: (kick, snare, stereo toms, stereo cymbals)

Cons:
Limited inputs (10, all single zone)
No input for a CD/mp3 player
Somewhat short on memory (this is not a big deal since you can delete and add the samples you want. I usually find a small subset that I really like and I stick with those)
Ddrum is not fully compatible with other brand e-cymbals, it uses positional sensing rather than dual trigger/rim switch.

So, the compromises I had to make for this kit were:
1) single zone, non chokable cymbals (the ride is the only place that this bothers me)
2) I had to buy a Pintech adapter to make the Hihat work with a Roland type pedal.

J

[JGthatsme]

First came my DDrum 2 setup which was acquired back in 1988. I used Zildjians and put everything on a Pearl DR-210 rack rather than the rack shown. I also used different pedals than the ones shown. I had the DDrum "Double Header" which converted the single kick pad into a double kick pad, but I never used it:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd2-a.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd2-b.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd2-c.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd2-d.jpg


When production of DDrum 3 was abruptly halted due to a lack of chips formerly produced by Motorola (or so I was told), I could have had a new DDrum 3 setup. Instead, I went with DDrum 4. Big mistake! DDrum 3 was the best module produced by any e-drum company. That module with the DDrum 4 all-aluminum cast precision pads would be the ultimate e-drum setup to this day.

In any event, in the late 90s I went with a regular, pre-configured DDrum 4 setup. I didn't like it and then went with the custom setup shown. Of course, different pedals were used. I just couldn't get into DDrum 4. I actually liked DDrum 2 more and craved a DDrum 3 brain. No luck. Kept 'em around for studio work which engineers loved, but eventually sold the gear. I've been completely acoustic on live gigs the last 7 years or so:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd4-a.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd4-b.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd4-c.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd4-d.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/JGthatsme/dd4-e.jpg


I don't like the current offerings from Roland, Yamaha, Pintech, Alesis, or really anyone else. Hence, I am patiently, but desperately, waiting for DDrum 5. I'm sure it'll be any day now......

;)

[JrummerJ]

[B]I don't like the current offerings from Roland, Yamaha, Pintech, Alesis, or really anyone else. Hence, I am patiently, but desperately, waiting for DDrum 5. I'm sure it'll be any day now......

;)

Have you thought about using a cheap module as a trigger to midi converter and then running BFD or DFHS on the muse receptor? It is a dedicated rack unit that hosts VST programs and apparently works great and is far more reliable than bringing your laptop to a gig.

http://www.museresearch.com/

By the way, Ilove the Ddrum4SE module, but I agree that, from what i have read, the Ddrum 3 was the ultimate. Too bad they want an arm and a leg for them now, if you can find one at all.


J

[JGthatsme]

I've been out of the electronics for a little while, but I seem to recall one of the many things every DDrum module had over everyone else was the steps of dynamics. When you used DDrum pads in conjunction with a DDrum module, you had over 1,000 steps of dynamics. That is to say, 1,000 steps from softest to loudest. I believe you have a mere 128 steps with MIDI. When I connected my DDrum modules via MIDI to other devices, I noticed a signficiant difference. Once you're accustomed to DDrum's 1,000 steps of dynamics, it's hard going down to 128. The realism is gone in my opinion. So, to answer the question, no - I haven't thought about that. Have the dynamics available through MIDI been improved these days?

[Ricola]

I've only got 60 soft to loud steps...*sniff*...

From what I have heard, MIDI has gotten somewhat better for recording to a compter. I don't really have too much experience with this, though.
JGthatsme, are those mesh double trigger pads?

Ddrum is not fully compatible with other brand e-cymbals, it uses positional sensing rather than dual trigger/rim switch.


Ahh, no choke...I have come to like the chokes on my roland... ;)

[JrummerJ]

I've been out of the electronics for a little while, but I seem to recall one of the many things every DDrum module had over everyone else was the steps of dynamics. When you used DDrum pads in conjunction with a DDrum module, you had over 1,000 steps of dynamics. That is to say, 1,000 steps from softest to loudest. I believe you have a mere 128 steps with MIDI. When I connected my DDrum modules via MIDI to other devices, I noticed a signficiant difference. Once you're accustomed to DDrum's 1,000 steps of dynamics, it's hard going down to 128. The realism is gone in my opinion. So, to answer the question, no - I haven't thought about that. Have the dynamics available through MIDI been improved these days?

To be honest I am not sure if they have. I personally cannot detect 1,000 dynamic levels with my Ddrums, but they are more dynamic than some of the Roland kits I have played. The real difference with that type of system is that the samples sound far better than anything you've ever heard on any ofthe Ddrum modules. Since the Ddrum modules are so limited on memory the samples are compressed quite a bit. With BFD and DFHS you get incredible sounds that can't be distinguished from a real acoustic set (mostly).

Check out the audio samples on these sites and see what you think:
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=1&tab=1
http://www.toontrack.com/demos.shtml

J

[JGthatsme]

JGthatsme, are those mesh double trigger pads?

Nope...those are real drumheads. Basically, DDrum Plus, DDrum 2, DDrum 3, and the first 2 or 3 renditions of DDrum 4 pads had a real drum head; below that was a layer of foam; below that was a very large aluminum contact plate just about the size of the pad; below that was more foam. That's not exact engineering specs, but that's a quick explanation. The last rendition of DDrum 4 pads were with mesh heads and a redesigned pickup. I never tried DDrum mesh heads but I have tried several others and I prefer the pads which had the real drum heads.

The black pads were plastic. I liked them because of their light weight, but after several years of heavy use, the bearing edges began to collapse upon themselves. The silver pads were cast aluminum. They were solid as a rock, but they weighed much more.

[Vargon]

My Yamaha DTXtreme currently with Pearl mesh heads.
Old pic got a Pearl double pedal now.

[Vargon]

This time mounted on my icon haha.

[Majyk Oyster]

here's mine (very outdated pics BTW). not 100% electronic, because I don't like sampled cymbals and snare drums :cool:

http://cupchime.majyk-oyster.com/pics4/Majyk_Set_2k6_01.jpg
http://cupchime.majyk-oyster.com/pics4/Majyk_Set_2k6_02.jpg
http://cupchime.majyk-oyster.com/pics4/Majyk_Set_2k6_03.jpg

[Ricola]

Nice setup, it looks nice and comfy!
I agree with you, I hate the sampled cymbals and snares that are on my TD-6.

[Vargon]

Majyk: How did you mount the module to the icon?

[Majyk Oyster]

Majyk: How did you mount the module to the icon?
there's a removable sort of stem made of bolts under the mount I made, which goes into a PCX200. I don't have pics right now, I'll try to think about it next time I take some (and that should be soon, since I'm getting a 8 piece Premier Genista in a couple of days :D )


closer pic of the module =>

http://cupchime.majyk-oyster.com/pics4/Majyk_Set_2k6_09.jpg

[scotsman1]

td3 but with a better stand...........samples
www.myspace.com\grimfact1

Mutually Assured Destruction


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/balloch/td32.jpg


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/balloch/td31.jpg

[naddage555]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/naddage555/P1010425.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/naddage555/P1010422.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/naddage555/P1010421.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/naddage555/P1010420.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/naddage555/P1010419.jpg

[Ricola]

^both of you, nice pedals too!

[Holybanana]

My V-kit:
Percussion Sound Module-TD8
Snare-PD120 Dual Trigger
Bass Drum-KD80
Toms-PD80
Floor Tom-PD100

Cymbals
HiHat-CY12HH Dual Trigger
Crash-CY14C Dual Trigger
Ride-CY15R Dual Trigger
PD6 For Cymbals/Percussion/Drums
CY8 Dual Trigger For Crash/China/Splash
HH Pedal-FD7

Hardware
Roland Drum Rack
Pearl Eliminator Single Pedal\DW 7002 Double Pedal
Pearl S800W Snare Stand
Pearl D-1000 Drum Throne
Roland RH-200 Monitor Headphones

[Psylence]

My TD-12. I'm selling it on Sunday though :(

[Vargon]

I just sold my Yamaha dxtreme too.

Need the space and $$$$$$

[The_Tech]

Wow, you guys have some nice kits there. I made one out of an old Pearl TK 100 practice pad kit. I only have one pic ATM but I'll follow up in a bit with some more.
Only costed me around 300 bucks with the Alesis DM-4 module.
Made it outa wood blocks, tunable practice pads, and some piezo triggers

[Foster]

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=156650