pedal dilemma

[davidros]

howdy people, i'm about to buy a new bass drum pedal, but i can't decide between the p2000c eliminator and the iron cobra rolling glide. if you have prior experience with these pedals, please give me some advice. thanks

[iceo]

i would say go with the dw 5002 td3.

[grohl]

dw 5000 ad3

[p-mack]

go with the eliminator...

[FTM]

howdy people, i'm about to buy a new bass drum pedal, but i can't decide between the p2000c eliminator and the iron cobra rolling glide. if you have prior experience with these pedals, please give me some advice. thanks

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[Son of Shub-Niggurath]

I just bought a Powershifter Eliminator twin pedal and I absolutely love it. It's very adjustable, solid, smooth, and silent. It also comes with a great carrying case.

I've played on Tama Iron Cobras in the past, and I also really liked them. One thing that the Eliminator has over the IC is the interchangeable cam system. If you buy a Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide, and you don't like the way it feels, and you want to try the Rolling Glide, then you have to buy a whole new pedal. With the Eliminator, if you don't like the feel of one cam, then just pop it off and snap another cam into place.

One thing Tama has over Pearl is that the beater can be adjusted so that it smacks the drumhead perfectly flat.

[ricohorton]

the Elims have many adjustments/features that are desired by many. but it is still and will always be personal preference. as far as i am concerned if i had to pick only one pedal between those two it would be the Eliminators.
here are my reasons.
1. up to six cams available to configure the pedal to your own personal preference. it's like having 6 pedals in one.
2. the foot board can be angled low, standard,high, via the chain.
3. the foot board has grip plates with rubber buttons. can be turned around so that the buttons are on top instead low on the foot board for those that like to play on a smooth surface. plus the ergonomical shaped power shifter heel plate makes playing more comfortable. and can be set for light, standard and heavy feel. the hinge is built in such a way that there is no waggle. the toe stop is removable and i always remove the toe stops on all my pedals that have them.
4. the Eliminator has a good stiff spring that does not require high tensioning. will last quite awhile betwwen changes.
5. the Floating Spring Pendulum and unipressure clamp with gauges makes adjusting the beater angle a breeze.
6. the linkage rod is sturdy and the universal joints are stainless steel.
7. the chain drive can be changed to belt drive. i prefer the belts.
8. the beaters are appropriately spaced and set so that beaters on a dbl pedal strike the center area of the batter head.
9. the Quad beater has four surfaces to choose from round or flat felt, round or flat plastic.
10. the side mounted roller cam hoop clamp make setups and teardowns a snap.
11. built in pedal spurs keep the pedal from sliding. an optional set of pedal spurs can be had for more added stability of the slave pedal.
12. the pedal base plates keep the pedal flat and stable to the floor. the bottom of the base plates have rubber grip plate padding that also help keep the pedal snug with the carpet.
13. the cordura pearl case that is supplied with the Elim's is of good quality and provides pockets for storeing beaters and cams, keys tools etc.

[JEREMYJOCK]

i would say go with the dw 5002 td3.
Agreed.

[Aries07]

Eliminator is your best buy.... You can change the pedal for different types of playing....

[SippyCup]

I played an Eliminator the other day in a store and I was really impressed. It felt super natural, I really liked it. It was strap driven.

[SLIPKNOT1]

Both are great choices. TRY them both out yourself in a store.

This thread covers all the features:

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=60291

And while i know you didn't mention the DW as a choice but others did, so with that in mind, Both the IC and the Pearl will offer you FAR more adjustments and a much higher level of durability then the DW. Again, the thread link above will cover all the details.

[Rats and Gods]

I had this pedal and it was amazing while it was working. 2nd to last song of our set the pedal board snapped in half and Pearl said they will be out until August. Other than that, the pedal was great. Wouldn't buy again though considering it only lasted a year and a half.

[Cavvyjack]

No offense, but how in the name of hell do you snap a footboard? Crappy technique or defected pedal or what?

[Rats and Gods]

No offense, but how in the name of hell do you snap a footboard? Crappy technique or defected pedal or what?

Trust me, I was asking myself the same question when looking at it in disbelief. I play "heel up" so that probably had something to do with it but that is ridiculous.

[Son of Shub-Niggurath]

Did you snap an Eliminator?

[Rats and Gods]

Did you snap an Eliminator?

Yep. It was the P-2000C. I will try and post pics when I get home tonight. I was very surpised only because I replaced my really old pedal (Pearl; earlier model of the same) with this one because the old one wouldn't latch to my kick very well anymore on tour. I had it since I was about 17 or 18 and this new one broke before that one did. I took the footboard off of the old one and rigged it onto the frame of the Eliminator but it shakes real bad from side to side.

[Tusk1]

If your going for speed, you may like the Cobras better. But if its anything else, Eliminators. I used them on a drumometer a few times and I couldnt get as fast as I did with cobras. And before someone says anything, YES I adjusted both.

But yeah, Eliminators work great, but if its speed your after, Cobras or Axis. Its all personal prefrence anyways, so it may not matter in the end.

[Rats and Gods]

Here are the pics. Not the best since they are from my phone but I don't have a real digital camera. Ha! ...and no...I didn't drive my car over it! Ha!

[thismercifulfate]

Here are the pics. Not the best since they are from my phone but I don't have a real digital camera. Ha! ...and no...I didn't drive my car over it! Ha!

Wow, what sort of footwear do you use when drumming? Do you jump off your throne onto your pedals?

[Rats and Gods]

Wow, what sort of footwear do you use when drumming? Do you jump off your throne onto your pedals?

I play in Doc Martens. I don't really have any time to jump off the throne though. Ha! As I said, no one was more surprised and amazed than me.

[Somen]

One thing that the Eliminator has over the IC is the interchangeable cam system. If you buy a Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide, and you don't like the way it feels, and you want to try the Rolling Glide, then you have to buy a whole new pedal.


...or you could just buy the other cam(s) and swap them..?
im mean sure your in for some disasembly and reasembly .. but thats half the fun

[Somen]

I play in Doc Martens.


um holy craap how the hell do you play in Docs?!?!
i play in socks!

[Rats and Gods]

um holy craap how the hell do you play in Docs?!?!
i play in socks!

Had the same pair for about 15 years. They feel like tennis shoes. They used to be 14 hole but I cut them down to 7. They work really well though.

[p-mack]

Here are the pics. Not the best since they are from my phone but I don't have a real digital camera. Ha! ...and no...I didn't drive my car over it! Ha!

how the heck did that happen?
im kinda scared for my pedals now... i've only owned a double kick for 3 months... my old one, a single pedal eliminator, didn't even suqeak during the 3 1/2 years i owned it... sheeez, maybe with the newer models, the quality is not that high? what do you guys think?

[Rats and Gods]

how the heck did that happen?
im kinda scared for my pedals now... i've only owned a double kick for 3 months... my old one, a single pedal eliminator, didn't even suqeak during the 3 1/2 years i owned it... sheeez, maybe with the newer models, the quality is not that high? what do you guys think?

As I said in my previous post, the pedal (while in working condition) worked great and as you said, didn't even squeak. It felt great and was taken care of really well. I guess either it was a bad one or just got put to the test of durability. Who knows?

[Brown_Thunder]

how the heck did that happen?
im kinda scared for my pedals now... i've only owned a double kick for 3 months... my old one, a single pedal eliminator, didn't even suqeak during the 3 1/2 years i owned it... sheeez, maybe with the newer models, the quality is not that high? what do you guys think?

In fact the newer models are of higher quality, what with their addition of knurled nuts at the footboard area so the pedal wont have that that side to side jiggle anymore.

[Hit 'Em Hard]

I played the DW's & Pearls for ages, and definitely prefer the feel and stability of the Iron Cobra... doesn't have the side to side issues and is just sturdier all the way around.

I used Tama Camco pedals for years...and like the Iron Cobra even moreso.

[TamaPaiste]

I dont even thinkt, that the fooboard on my Iron Cobras going to "snap off". Cobras has a really thick footboard.