Rogers fans

[rushfan]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Late-60s-Rogers-Dayton-Drum-Set-Vintage-1960s_W0QQitemZ7367063335QQcategoryZ38097QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

this kit is amazing-rare to see a double bass set intact from that era-ebay is the devil!

[DeadSkinMask]

that is one of the coolest Rogers kit i have ever seen..has a hefty price tag though.

[pandoradrummer]

i have a 60's rogers holiday 4 piece

[Mr. Oliver]

i play a rogers set at my bass players house, very nice set.

[emprica]

So that is where barker ripped off that colour scheme, arsehole!

Thats an awesome kit though

[StixNSkins]

Very sweet kit! I also own an early '70's Rogers 5 pc. w/swivo-matic hardware in butcher block finish. It is in storage right now, but it is in great condition. One day I'll pull it out & set it up as a show piece.

[watch_the_fall]

reminds me of the OCP custom kit, maybe they are bringing the red white and blue back?

[Bob_S]

My drum teacher has a rogers set. What year did they stop making drums? I'm assuming its fairly vintage because hes a collector.

[ian40uk]

My drum teacher has a rogers set. What year did they stop making drums? I'm assuming its fairly vintage because hes a collector.

as far as im concerned, it all ended in 79 when the fullerton site closed initially and shifted to monrovia. things went downhill badly after that, they moved back to fullerton again in 81 but the shells were made/assembled just over the mexican border ( the fender/cbs influence i assume ). the quality was nasty so it soon moved back to california...... it was then partly moved back to mexico (different town) in 83 where quality was improved, then in 84 it was all moved back to fullerton where from what i remember, aug 6th 1984, quote " XP-8 manuf is being curtailed while a complete redesign and repackaging was undertaken " so late summer 1984 saw the last of the Rogers drums !

[Bob_S]

Did the badges stay the same old "Rogers" nailed to the side of the drum like in the one from ebay?

[Thrush]

reminds me of the OCP custom kit, maybe they are bringing the red white and blue back?

Considering the age of that kit, surely your sentence should read : The OCDP kit reminds me of that Rogers kit

;)

[ian40uk]

Did the badges stay the same old "Rogers" nailed to the side of the drum like in the one from ebay?

no, they changed around 75/76 from the script logo to the 'Big R' badge

[Bob_S]

Neat, so his kit is pretty old then. Thanks ian40uk.

[Teapot Man]

That kit is tight.

[greggp]

Actually, as a point of reference, AFAIK, Rogers NEVER made its own shells. Up to the time that Rogers was taken over by Grossman, the company purchased shells from the other manufacturers, such as Slingerland. In the late 50s, Rogers became the first customer for Keller wood products' shells, and Keller continued to be the major supplier for Rogers up until the company ceased operations in the 80s. The Rogers XP-8 shell was made by Keller.

If you really want an "all maple" shell in your vintage drums, Rogers is pretty much the way to go (single-ply snares excepted, of course). Ludwig and Slingerland shells were made of mahogany in the 30s, but after WWII gradually move to shells made with a poplar center ply. Gretsch (Jasper) shells (post 1957) have interior plies of gumwood. The other possible all-maple drums would be Conn-era Leedys (some of them) and the L.A. Camcos from the 70s (they're rare as hen's teeth though).

[ian40uk]

Actually, as a point of reference, AFAIK, Rogers NEVER made its own shells. Up to the time that Rogers was taken over by Grossman, the company purchased shells from the other manufacturers, such as Slingerland. In the late 50s, Rogers became the first customer for Keller wood products' shells, and Keller continued to be the major supplier for Rogers up until the company ceased operations in the 80s. The Rogers XP-8 shell was made by Keller.




thats true, in my posting i stated "they moved back to fullerton again in 81 but the shells were made/assembled just over the mexican border " . my mistake, i believe sub assemblies were done in mexico :)

[P Wiley]

thats really cool

[greggp]

I do have to say, it's not fair to just blame it on the Mexican production. Rogers QC went down precipitiously in the mid-70s. The bearing edges on the Cleveland and Dayton drums were generally superb (although the first Clevelands pretty much had flat edges), but the later Fullerton edges vary greatly.

[Pakketeretet]

My teacher has a Rogers set, with the Big R-logo. He said that back in the eighties, that kit was the one. It has wood shells with some sort of metal-looking plate on the inside. Sounds really nice.

[Jazzer Ed]

as far as im concerned, it all ended in 79 when the fullerton site closed initially and shifted to monrovia. things went downhill badly after that, they moved back to fullerton again in 81 but the shells were made/assembled just over the mexican border ( the fender/cbs influence i assume ). the quality was nasty so it soon moved back to california...... it was then partly moved back to mexico (different town) in 83 where quality was improved, then in 84 it was all moved back to fullerton where from what i remember, aug 6th 1984, quote " XP-8 manuf is being curtailed while a complete redesign and repackaging was undertaken " so late summer 1984 saw the last of the Rogers drums !

the jazz kits and big band kits ended, as far as I'm concerned (Im a jazzer) when Rogers moved out of Cleveland/Dayon and CBS bought them out and moved them to Fullerton. They went to Big R and pipe hardware for rockers. The old solid gray paint inside shells was changed in Fullerton to sparkle gray paint inside the shells. And I believe the shells were changed in composition and thickness to accommodate the rockers.

[Ictus75]

the jazz kits and big band kits ended, as far as I'm concerned (Im a jazzer) when Rogers moved out of Cleveland/Dayon and CBS bought them out and moved them to Fullerton. They went to Big R and pipe hardware for rockers. The old solid gray paint inside shells was changed in Fullerton to sparkle gray paint inside the shells. And I believe the shells were changed in composition and thickness to accommodate the rockers.

Actually, the big R and Memory-loc hardware didn't happen until a few years after they moved to fullerton. They used the standard shells with the heavier hardware for a short time before they introduced the XP-8 shells. I have 3 sets of swivo-matic Rogers, and the '72 CBS Fullerton kit is almost identical to the Cleveland/Dayton kits I have, except for the gray speckle interiors. The shells are a little lighter weight too.

The early CBS kits are well made with excellent bearing edges, but later on, the workmanship got sloppy and some of the bearing edges were a joke! Read The Rogers Drum Book to find out the sad story of how CBS let a really great company waste away to nothing.