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bonzonerd
10-23-2005, 02:28 PM
I show up to work yesterday and notice a Supraphonic in the garbage. I ask what's wrong with it and apparantly the shell is cracked. I look at it and there are no cracks, just a small dent by where the throwoff is. It is missing hoops, a throw off snares and heads but nothin' like a free COB. The shell and lugs are both super (or should I say Supra) clean. haha :)
Mr. Oliver
10-23-2005, 02:29 PM
awesome man!!!!
slybond
10-23-2005, 02:33 PM
score man, theres one at my school im trying to snag

what does COB mean? i keep seeing it
DaMadBlaqDrumma
10-23-2005, 02:38 PM
you lucky bastard, got any pics
philee
10-23-2005, 02:49 PM
score man, theres one at my school im trying to snag

what does COB mean? i keep seeing it
Yeah, really! :confused:
lud2002
10-23-2005, 03:11 PM
COB = Chrome over Brass. Good find!
Security_Protected
10-23-2005, 04:31 PM
Pics of it man, good find though. Are you sure it has no defects? I'd just give it a proper good check over, make sure you don't get screwed over buying everything for it to fix it up.
A_Perfect_Tool
10-23-2005, 05:06 PM
Good find dude. Can't wait to see it fixed up.
archenemy56
10-23-2005, 06:02 PM
IN THE GARBAGEE!???!!! Nice find man! Clean that baby up, give her some nice TLC. ;)
bonzonerd
10-23-2005, 07:22 PM
Nah nothing wrong with it. I will probably end up spend less then $100 getting the parts.

COB=Chrome Over Brass

I'll post pics later.
Inhuman
10-23-2005, 07:23 PM
... and you wonder why I want to work there.
iceyflame
10-23-2005, 08:52 PM
Where do you work??
rushfan
10-24-2005, 02:26 AM
My first snare in 7th grade beginner band was a Supraphonic...man I wish I had that sucker-I lugged it home everyday in its case to the jeers of my classmates-ahhhh to be 13 again :confused:
DeadSkinMask
10-24-2005, 06:47 AM
nice find for free man..i want to get snares for free darn it ;)
bonzonerd
10-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Where do you work??
Long & McQuade. Canada's GC I suppose.
arghpirate
10-24-2005, 04:19 PM
DeadSkinMask: "nice find for free man..i want to get snares for free darn it"














me too..... got any spare?
fezzasus
10-24-2005, 04:32 PM
How do you know it's Brass, very few are.
bonzonerd
10-24-2005, 06:58 PM
How do you know it's Brass, very few are.
Put a magnet to it. If it slides off, it's brass.
GCG199
10-24-2005, 07:48 PM
No, there is much more to it than the magnet. The aluminum/zinc alloy shells are not magnetic either and those consist of about 90 percent or more of the Supra-Phonics produced.

Part of being able to tell what the shell is made out of is by how old it is. Most of the first Super-Ludwigs (late 1950s models) and Supra-Phonic (early 1960s models) were brass shells. As the price of raw brass went up, Ludwig went with the aluminum/zinc alloy shells. They did start with just aluminum, but even it went up in price too much. There are supposed to be steel shell Supra-Phonics that were made too.

Another way has to do with the bearing edge "lip", it is different on the brass models than the aluminum/zinc alloy models.

The final way to tell for sure is to remove a lug and bore-out a bit of the shell material from the holes where the screws go into the shell. If it is a yellow/brownish color, it is most likely a brass shell.
punkrockdrummer
10-24-2005, 07:52 PM
Nice. I wish I were as lucky as you to find treasure in someone else's trash. :(
phips
10-25-2005, 06:49 AM
I to ended up getting a early 70's supra free. A guy at work had this thrown together Slingerland kit that he wanted to get rid of. I bought the kit, Bass, snare (supra), and 2 toms. High hat with B8's, 20 inch b8 pro ride with stand, 16 inch crash with stand, Pearl snare stand, and Tama (cheep) base pedal. Paid $250 for everything, the drums were in realy sad shape. Sold the Slingerlands for $250 and kept everything else. So I got the supra, hardware and cymbels for free :D Oh ya a throne also. The supra has some pitting, but man does that thing sound GREAT. The deals are out there, some times you just got to be lucky :cool:
greggp
10-25-2005, 09:22 PM
Unlikely it's COB as CGC says. The Ludalloy shell is much lighter, and is seamless, while most of the COB models have a seam. Also, generally only the earliest Supras have a crimped snare bed. If the drum has really wide beds, it's probably Ludalloy.

Like CGC said, the real brass Supras have a curled under edge flange.

Don't be too upset if it isn't COB. The Ludalloy Supra is a great sounding drum, and has fewer high overtones.

If you need lugs, consider getting tube lugs. They will open the drum up a lot, and a Ludalloy Supra will tend to sound more like brass.
bonzonerd
10-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Unlikely it's COB as CGC says. The Ludalloy shell is much lighter, and is seamless, while most of the COB models have a seam. Also, generally only the earliest Supras have a crimped snare bed. If the drum has really wide beds, it's probably Ludalloy.

Like CGC said, the real brass Supras have a curled under edge flange.

Don't be too upset if it isn't COB. The Ludalloy Supra is a great sounding drum, and has fewer high overtones.

If you need lugs, consider getting tube lugs. They will open the drum up a lot, and a Ludalloy Supra will tend to sound more like brass.
It has the seam, and it is pretty light.

Either way it will sound wicked.
greggp
10-25-2005, 09:53 PM
You should post pictures of the shell. Most of the Ludalloy drums with a seam have a reinforcing plate. The seamed aluminum drums were mostly prototype Acrolites that came with aluminum hoops.
Serge
10-27-2005, 02:40 PM
1969 Ludaloy Supraphonic.

Friend gave it to me. Still had the original Strainer and heads.
SharkSandwich
10-27-2005, 02:43 PM
Major score!!

Can't wait to see pics!